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Fox Sports and Dish Network Dispute


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#26 OFFLINE   Jhon69

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 10:30 AM

In considering whether to eat my ETF with DirecTV and switch to DISH I have been hearing a lot of "DISH doesn't carry this team or this regional sports network in HD or all the time, yadda, yadda, yadda." Listened to this for a while until I asked myself, "Self? How many games do you actually watch? Do you watch them from beginning to end? Do you have nothing more to do than watch the games?"

And I answered: "No."

I'm a sports fan but frankly, I have too much to do to worry about molding my schedule around when my team is playing. (That's what DVRs are for.) Living in the Central time zone means most of my team's games are starting when I get home from work (6 p.m.); if I watch them at all it's probably for an inning or so when I'm preparing dinner. And about the only time I'll specifically decide to watch a game live is when I don't have work to do that evening, I'm not otherwise engaged or my wife isn't home. If I am working and have to find out what's going on in the game, I'll listen to it on Sirius/XM or MLB Audio.

So after getting it out of my system to avoid DISH because they don't have the sports DirecTV has, I'll be switching this summer, when my DirecTV discounts peel away and my bill goes up by $40.



So if you do go back to DISH you would get G4HD again and you could watch "Ninja Warrior"!!.;):D

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#27 OFFLINE   Jhon69

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 10:32 AM

What station was carrying the A's v. Angels game in the Bay Area? Was it carried on Dish?



DISH has Comcast Bay Area channel maybe that one?.:confused:


Here's the thread for that information:

http://www.dbstalk.c...ad.php?t=203829

Edited by Jhon69, 18 April 2012 - 10:40 AM.


#28 OFFLINE   levibluewa

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 09:35 AM

A's games are on ComcastSportsNetCA

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 10:49 PM

Tonight Dish is carrying the A's-Angels game in HD on Fox Sports West 417. The last two nights the game was blacked out with a slate saying that "Tonight's game in not available on Dish Network." So apparently something was worked out.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 10:56 PM

Tonight Dish is carrying the A's-Angels game in HD on Fox Sports West 417. The last two nights the game was blacked out with a slate saying that "Tonight's game in not available on Dish Network." So apparently something was worked out.

Perhaps. It may have been a game already scheduled to be aired before the new games were added.

The Fox Sports West website still has the complaint post up and there have been no releases noting a compromise.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 09:18 AM

This dispute is about the Angles games that were formerly carried by KCOP (Channel 13). Fox Sports West added those games to their existing lineup. U-Verse and Dish do not want to pay what Fox is asking for these added games.

Edited by Rainbird, 20 April 2012 - 09:20 AM.
corrected channel number


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Posted 20 April 2012 - 10:52 AM

I say.... LET IT GO!


I hardly watch sports. Let it go!

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 11:06 AM

In considering whether to eat my ETF with DirecTV and switch to DISH I have been hearing a lot of "DISH doesn't carry this team or this regional sports network in HD or all the time, yadda, yadda, yadda." Listened to this for a while until I asked myself, "Self? How many games do you actually watch? Do you watch them from beginning to end? Do you have nothing more to do than watch the games?"

And I answered: "No."

I'm a sports fan but frankly, I have too much to do to worry about molding my schedule around when my team is playing. (That's what DVRs are for.) Living in the Central time zone means most of my team's games are starting when I get home from work (6 p.m.); if I watch them at all it's probably for an inning or so when I'm preparing dinner. And about the only time I'll specifically decide to watch a game live is when I don't have work to do that evening, I'm not otherwise engaged or my wife isn't home. If I am working and have to find out what's going on in the game, I'll listen to it on Sirius/XM or MLB Audio.

So after getting it out of my system to avoid DISH because they don't have the sports DirecTV has, I'll be switching this summer, when my DirecTV discounts peel away and my bill goes up by $40.


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Posted 20 April 2012 - 11:34 AM

So after getting it out of my system to avoid DISH because they don't have the sports DirecTV has, I'll be switching this summer, when my DirecTV discounts peel away and my bill goes up by $40.


I'll be doing the same thing in August when my discounts disappear. With the new/returning customer deals, and being able to cut down to a single Hopper with a single Joey, I'll save about $480 in the switch and even after paying the $240 ETF, I'll make another $240 to put in my pocket. :)

I'm a boxing fan so in the move I'll pick up Epix with its European boxing, but lose Showtime Extreme in HD which is showing the undercards for Showtime Championship boxing events. Overall, a win as E*'s SD is so much better, especially on the EA!

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 12:35 PM

So it sounds like the dispute is not settled.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 10:38 PM

For what it is worth, tonight's Angels game was carried on FSW 417 in HD on Dish.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 09:48 AM

The E* HD sports situation is not that bad. Unless there is a carriage dispute as discussed above, you will at least get the RSN game in SD. Better than nothing.

As a Cleveland fan (Eastern time zone) I'd say 95% of the time we get the Cavs and Indians in HD. Not bad considering the scrambling E* has to do to keep the HD feeds straight. Now once everybody has been converted to HD tuners the SD duplicate channels can be eliminated and then there will be no excuse for not giving us our RSN's in HD 24/7.


One BIG excuse would be the cost. Now it your willing to pay extra for it, I'm happy. But I cannot afford to pay for more over priced sports channels that I don't watch. don't mind anyone watching... Just don't make me pay for it. :mad:
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Posted 23 April 2012 - 04:11 PM

DISH will still air the same number of LA Angels games on FSN West as the year prior. Fox has decided to move games previously being broadcast for free on the Fox owned local affiliate KCOP to FSN West. Since these games were not part of our original agreement Fox is blacking these additional games out to justify additional charges to DISH. We have contracts with many channel providers, and to keep rates low for our customers we try to negotiate an equitable rate based on fair market value. I apologize for the inconvenience that this has caused our customers who are LA Angels fans.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 01:09 PM

DISH will still air the same number of LA Angels games on FSN West as the year prior. Fox has decided to move games previously being broadcast for free on the Fox owned local affiliate KCOP to FSN West. Since these games were not part of our original agreement Fox is blacking these additional games out to justify additional charges to DISH. We have contracts with many channel providers, and to keep rates low for our customers we try to negotiate an equitable rate based on fair market value. I apologize for the inconvenience that this has caused our customers who are LA Angels fans.


So is this the stance that DISH is going to take each Baseball season? I don't see how you're doing us any favors or that you have our best interest in mind. Nevermind that we all pay each month for channels we can't use (Asian, Hispanic, Shopping, etc....) or don't want. No matter how you slice it, we're paying for those games and DISH is not providing them - that's so wrong on so many levels it's crazy. I've been with DISH a long time, but now that I'm out of contract, I guess it's time to move on. I don't care if it costs more, at least I'll be getting what I payed for, that's what this is all about anyway. Please DISH, stop doing us any favors and simply give us what we payed for.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 02:33 PM

You don't pay for shopping channels.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 03:28 PM

One question is why did Dish agree to a contract that apparently did not provide for full broadcast rights of all programming on FSW? Why is FSW allowed to demand more money midway through the carriage contract? The contract should be negotiated to allow full broadcast rights for the duration of the contract, regardless of what happens to programming. I don't see the value of a contract that allows the channel to increase its rates when programming changes. The time for the channel to increase its rates is when the contract comes up for renewal.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 03:37 PM

So is this in any way related to the airing of the San Diego Padres games? Is there a new Comcast SportsNet San Diego or FoxSports San Diego carrying these games? and if so what is the zip code range for the Padres territory.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 03:42 PM

So is this in any way related to the airing of the San Diego Padres games? Is there a new Comcast SportsNet San Diego or FoxSports San Diego carrying these games? and if so what is the zip code range for the Padres territory.


There's a new FSN San Diego this year carrying the Padres.
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