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A few miles make a hugh difference in sports teams available.


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#1 OFFLINE   dxtrfn80

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 09:42 PM

My zip code (24541)

NBA-Wizards
NHL-Capitals, Hurricanes (with Sports Pack)
MLB-Nationals, Orioles

Just across the border in North Carolina (Caswell County)

MLB-Nationals, Orioles, Braves, Reds (with Sports Pack)
NHL-Hurricanes
no NBA team, Bobcats claim only 100 miles of Charlotte.

Then I entered 24541 in the MLB schedule finder and it claims Braves games are available with the Sports Pack I got. Maybe I tune in tomorrow to see if the game is in the clear.

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#2 OFFLINE   Nick

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 06:38 AM

Who is Hugh?

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#3 OFFLINE   JACKIEGAGA

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 06:43 AM

Who is Hugh?


Hefner or Laurie? :lol:

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 07:41 AM

My zip code (24541)

NBA-Wizards
NHL-Capitals, Hurricanes (with Sports Pack)
MLB-Nationals, Orioles

Just across the border in North Carolina (Caswell County)

MLB-Nationals, Orioles, Braves, Reds (with Sports Pack)
NHL-Hurricanes
no NBA team, Bobcats claim only 100 miles of Charlotte.

Then I entered 24541 in the MLB schedule finder and it claims Braves games are available with the Sports Pack I got. Maybe I tune in tomorrow to see if the game is in the clear.


Yes, a few miles does make a difference. The line has to be drawn somewhere. I entered 24541 at http://www.directv.c...s/mlb_schedules and it shows Braves games available with Extra Innings.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 09:49 AM

I think it is all in the zip code.
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 05:02 PM

10% of our direct community of about 55,000 people get both the Twins and the Brewers.. the rest get just the Brewers.. but no replays.. and no team shows.. NONE what so ever.. oh and that's decided by a 50 yard streach of old river channel. some thing you can litterally throw a rock across..

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 06:37 PM

10% of our direct community of about 55,000 people get both the Twins and the Brewers.. the rest get just the Brewers.. but no replays.. and no team shows.. NONE what so ever.. oh and that's decided by a 50 yard streach of old river channel. some thing you can litterally throw a rock across..


Looks like that puts you in the category of "close but no cigar". :sure:
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 06:43 PM

Here's a good map for blackout questions but yes I've seen a mile change teams dramatically.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 06:43 PM

I think it is all in the zip code.


Nope not at all. The lines weave in and out of zipcodes.

I have a buddy in another town, gets completely different RSN's and Locals then his neighbor who is 20 feet to the east in the same zip :P

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 06:50 PM

One of the worst situations is Eugene, OR. For some weird reason, the Giants and Athletics both claim Eugene in their territory. Eugene is about 600 miles away from both teams. When the A's or Giants are on OTA stations only, it's impossible to see them play.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 06:51 PM

Nope not at all. The lines weave in and out of zipcodes.

I have a buddy in another town, gets completely different RSN's and Locals then his neighbor who is 20 feet to the east in the same zip :P


Either a different provider or something else is going on. DBS uses zip codes and cable can use the physical address so things can change in zip codes for sports.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 10:12 PM

They used to clam further north back in the days before fsn/ root sports and csn.

One of the worst situations is Eugene, OR. For some weird reason, the Giants and Athletics both claim Eugene in their territory. Eugene is about 600 miles away from both teams. When the A's or Giants are on OTA stations only, it's impossible to see them play.



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Posted 19 April 2012 - 07:03 AM

I've put it on here before, but i'm in the NE corner of Maryland(21901,21916,21921 etc). Despite being claimed by CSN Mid Atlantic teams and MASN, we're blacked out of Flyers games. They for some reason think we're in the Flyers 100mile radius, and thus have comcast options.(which the local comcast doesnt offer CSN Philly)

Now it'd be great if CSN Philly does come to DTV since it would mean that my home RSN would be CSN Philly, and that would make a Gigantic difference in this area.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 12:49 PM

I've put it on here before, but i'm in the NE corner of Maryland(21901,21916,21921 etc). Despite being claimed by CSN Mid Atlantic teams and MASN, we're blacked out of Flyers games. They for some reason think we're in the Flyers 100mile radius, and thus have comcast options.(which the local comcast doesnt offer CSN Philly)

Now it'd be great if CSN Philly does come to DTV since it would mean that my home RSN would be CSN Philly, and that would make a Gigantic difference in this area.


You are in the Flyers blackout area. It doesn't matter what channel is offered in the area. It may seem silly, but that is the reason. The ability to receive an RSN has no bearing as to team blackout areas. They are obviously linked to some extent, but RSN boundaries and blackout boundaries are different.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 01:42 PM

Nope not at all. The lines weave in and out of zipcodes.

I have a buddy in another town, gets completely different RSN's and Locals then his neighbor who is 20 feet to the east in the same zip :P


Zip codes is one of the ways, but I believe they also use stuff like county lines, districts, etc.

In my home town of Rock Falls you are in a different DMA depending on if you live in Whiteside or Lee county. Whiteside county gets local channels from the Quad Cities on DirecTV, Lee county gets locals from Rockford. Houses literally across the street from each other get different local channels on DirecTV.

Comcast includes locals from both DMAs, so my parents get 2 ABC, 2CBS, 2 CW, 2 Fox, 2 NBC stations, etc.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 08:41 PM

In the Buffalo DMA, the closest MLB team is Toronto - about 90 miles away. Yet there are no blackouts on EI for Blue Jays Games. Cleveland (200 miles), Pittsburgh (200 miles) and NY (350 miles) are blacked out. Go figure. I was always frustrated when, as an EI subscriber, the few Mets games being broadcast on a NYC OTA channel (as opposed to SNY, one of my regional RSN's) were blacked out for me on EI. At least the Yankees provided an alternate YES feed (which I got) for games broadcast on a local channel.

And from what I understand, Blue Jays games are blacked out on EI for the whole country of Canada, so if you live in Vancouver (3000 miles away), you are considered in Toronto's "local" market.

I think it's time for ALL sports to revisit their blackout rules.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 06:54 AM

You are in the Flyers blackout area. It doesn't matter what channel is offered in the area. It may seem silly, but that is the reason. The ability to receive an RSN has no bearing as to team blackout areas. They are obviously linked to some extent, but RSN boundaries and blackout boundaries are different.


Believe me I know. I've found work arounds for years. It's just funny that we're essentially claimed by Caps and the Flyers.
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Posted 20 April 2012 - 08:46 AM

And from what I understand, Blue Jays games are blacked out on EI for the whole country of Canada, so if you live in Vancouver (3000 miles away), you are considered in Toronto's "local" market.

I think it's time for ALL sports to revisit their blackout rules.


The Blue Jays are aired nationally across Canada via Sportsnet. There's no need to watch them on EI. Similar to the Raptors who also have national carriage.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 06:48 AM

so does 43614 (toldeo) get reds, indians, and tigers for rsn on choice or just one? i have family that wanted to switch but on cable they get tigers on fsn detroit, reds on fox sports ohio, and indians on sportstime ohio on cable and do not want to lose them.

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 12:18 PM

so does 43614 (toldeo) get reds, indians, and tigers for rsn on choice or just one? i have family that wanted to switch but on cable they get tigers on fsn detroit, reds on fox sports ohio, and indians on sportstime ohio on cable and do not want to lose them.


Go here and enter the zip code.
http://www.directv.c...assetId=3450006

Looks like they should be able to get all of them if they get the right package (Choice Xtra).
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Posted 13 May 2012 - 07:32 PM

I live in Alamance County, the next county south of Caswell in the OP. We have
MLB: Orioles, Nationals, Reds, Braves
NHL: Hurricanes
NBA: nothing (but I "moved" to the town of Lexington, which is in the clear for the Bobcats. Someone earlier said it's 100 miles from Charlotte - it's actually 75 miles.)

Locals are Greensboro, with Raleigh's ABC, despite the Raleigh locals coming in better OTA at my place than the Greensboro ones. Thank you AM21.
With the "move", I lose the Raleigh ABC via Directv (SD only anyway, it is HD on the AM21) and gain the Charlotte ABC.

In Caswell County, NC, I believe you also get at least some Roanoke, VA locals, in HD, with the Greensboro, NC locals. If the Bobcats games were shown in Caswell County, I would "move" there in a heartbeat, but those few Celtics games are worth it, to me.
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Posted 14 May 2012 - 03:57 PM

I've put it on here before, but i'm in the NE corner of Maryland(21901,21916,21921 etc). Despite being claimed by CSN Mid Atlantic teams and MASN, we're blacked out of Flyers games. They for some reason think we're in the Flyers 100mile radius, and thus have comcast options.(which the local comcast doesnt offer CSN Philly)

Now it'd be great if CSN Philly does come to DTV since it would mean that my home RSN would be CSN Philly, and that would make a Gigantic difference in this area.


Comcast doesn't want anyone to watch the Flyers. Their long term business model is to reduce Flyer viewership to zero as soon as possible, but Philly fans are stubborn and just won't convert to the Devils.

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 08:08 PM

I converted, to The Oilers. Why would anyone followThe Devils? NJ isn't even a real state. :)

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 10:32 AM

I live in Alamance County, the next county south of Caswell in the OP. We have
MLB: Orioles, Nationals, Reds, Braves
NHL: Hurricanes
NBA: nothing (but I "moved" to the town of Lexington, which is in the clear for the Bobcats. Someone earlier said it's 100 miles from Charlotte - it's actually 75 miles.)

Locals are Greensboro, with Raleigh's ABC, despite the Raleigh locals coming in better OTA at my place than the Greensboro ones. Thank you AM21.
With the "move", I lose the Raleigh ABC via Directv (SD only anyway, it is HD on the AM21) and gain the Charlotte ABC.

In Caswell County, NC, I believe you also get at least some Roanoke, VA locals, in HD, with the Greensboro, NC locals. If the Bobcats games were shown in Caswell County, I would "move" there in a heartbeat, but those few Celtics games are worth it, to me.


Once you hit Roxboro (Person County) you only get Orioles, Nationals and Hurricanes. And as for the Bobcats they just don't want their games seen anywhere except the Charlotte Metro area. High Point falls just 2 miles outside of the 75 mile radius on Directv. The Carolina Hurricanes can be seen as far north as Lynchburg with the Sports Pack but the Bobcats do not want to pay the rights on Direct Tv outside of 75 miles but the other NBA teams do as the Indiana Pacers claim all of Kentucky. If I were the Bobcats I would agree to pay the fee for the games to be seen in all of NC and SC. It probably will never happen just like Direct TV getting CSN Philly available.

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 07:45 PM

I am curious about you saying Bobcats paying DirecTV.

Isn't the deal, DirecTV doesn't want to pay SportSouth for the extended coverage of the Bobcats?

It is odd that they don't. I get the Hawks and Grizzlies. I am 220 miles from Atlanta and about 300 to Memphis.




Once you hit Roxboro (Person County) you only get Orioles, Nationals and Hurricanes. And as for the Bobcats they just don't want their games seen anywhere except the Charlotte Metro area. High Point falls just 2 miles outside of the 75 mile radius on Directv. The Carolina Hurricanes can be seen as far north as Lynchburg with the Sports Pack but the Bobcats do not want to pay the rights on Direct Tv outside of 75 miles but the other NBA teams do as the Indiana Pacers claim all of Kentucky. If I were the Bobcats I would agree to pay the fee for the games to be seen in all of NC and SC. It probably will never happen just like Direct TV getting CSN Philly available.






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