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Dish Network and DirecTV: Satellite dishes could be banned


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#1 OFFLINE   espnjason

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 12:01 PM

Apparently, the shallow people that say "Dishes are ugly" still exist.

Not only are the current dishes an eyesore, but a lot of owners move and leave their dish behind. Evidently this is not regulated by anyone. Because of these problems some cities are considering a ban on the dish. Boston was the first large metro area to ban them, and other cities may be following their lead:

Boston may be one of the first cities in the nation to ban satellite dishes. The problem is that many think they look awful. "A satellite dish is a dish-shaped type of parabolic antenna designed to receive microwaves from communications satellites, which transmit data transmissions or broadcasts, such as satellite television."


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Posted 30 April 2012 - 02:19 PM

One thing that has come up in some of the discussions about the dish situation (on different web sites) is the fact that there are other types of satellite antennas. For instance, the antenna used on automobiles for Sirius XM (SIRI) Backseat TV is not a dish antenna. I realize that it only receives three channels, but can't this technology be used to redesign the "ugly dish" shape? The new satellite radio antennas keep getting smaller and smaller. And considering how much the dish has changed over the years, someone should be able to shrink it smaller. This picture shows the two Sirius XM Backseat TV satellite antennas (top right) for a car:

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There are multiple satellites involved, so a small receiver such as the the one used for Sirius/XM most likely won't work. XM also uses local ground base repeaters to aid reception in urban areas.

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 02:22 PM

I think federal law (OTARD) will trump any banning of satellite antennas.

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 02:30 PM

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 02:34 PM

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 04:11 PM

Boston may be one of the first cities in the nation to ban satellite dishes. The problem is that many think they look awful.

Oh, the humanity! :rolleyes:

The solution is simple: make the parabolic antenna out of reflective red bricks, the arm to look like a vine or branch, and cover the dish with emr-transparent ivy. Change the name to 'sconce' so's your old lady likes it and tells you to get another one "for esthetic balance".

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 05:40 PM

I'm always interested by what topics get people up in arms to enact bans (especially ones that will not stand due to the law) vs things that actually matter.

Wouldn't it be nice if these same people got this motivated to change something that is really wrong in our society?

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 01:15 PM

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 08:43 PM

I do not see this flying at all, mostly because of OTARD and that the dish is the only way to get Dish / DIRECTV signal.

So, unless someone invents a way to get satellite via an antenna array, those dishes are going to stay.

(:lol: that rymes.)

Meh, maybe some entrepreneur will start a recycling business in Boston and take old dishes from prior Dish / DIRECTV customers down and sell them for scrap.

Of course, we can only hope he does not take down the dishes from active subscribers.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 09:03 PM

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There are multiple satellites involved, so a small receiver such as the the one used for Sirius/XM most likely won't work. XM also uses local ground base repeaters to aid reception in urban areas.


Not to mention the frequency used for XM is MUCH lower, and is not near as likely to be attenuated by weather and foilage as the bands used by satellite tv.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 10:50 PM

Oh, the humanity! :rolleyes:

The solution is simple: make the parabolic antenna out of reflective red bricks, the arm to look like a vine or branch, and cover the dish with emr-transparent ivy. Change the name to 'sconce' so's your old lady likes it and tells you to get another one "for esthetic balance".

Fine. How about Cell Towers or Windmills then? Or the really old one telephone poles.

Those been ugly for decades and the telephone poles almost a century. Where are the Ugly Police for those eye sores.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 06:13 AM

I'm always interested by what topics get people up in arms to enact bans (especially ones that will not stand due to the law) vs things that actually matter.

Wouldn't it be nice if these same people got this motivated to change something that is really wrong in our society?

Yeah.....like cell phone use or texting while driving....

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 08:36 AM

Yeah.....like cell phone use or texting while driving....

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...or changing topic, mid-thread.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 09:01 AM

...or changing topic, mid-thread.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 09:21 AM

Yeah.....like cell phone use or texting while driving....

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Ah... but if you are driving near a home that has a distracting satellite dish on it... and you have an accident... wouldn't that be motivation to ban the dishes?

Checkmate.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 09:46 AM

Like yours?

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 09:48 AM

This is the biggest much ado about nothing article I have seen. The FCC specifically prohibits the "banning" of dishes. End of discussion.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 01:40 PM

This is the biggest much ado about nothing article I have seen. The FCC specifically prohibits the "banning" of dishes. End of discussion.

Philadelphia passed their ordinance last fall. The SBCA filed a petition with the FCC to block the Philly law. But no answer yet. So until they do, it isn't the 'end of discussion.'

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 02:13 PM

I should move to Boston and fight this. These battles are kind of fun. :D

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 02:33 PM

Wouldn't it be nice if these same people got this motivated to change something that is really wrong in our society?

It is far too hard to deal with things that really matter; especially if they might, heaven forbid, involve personal sacrifice.

The other issue is that we usually find somebody like the NCTA or NAB lurking in the background of these anti-dish "campaigns".
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Posted 06 May 2012 - 02:35 PM

I didn't pay much attention to the Philly law, but the Boston law states dishes can't go on the front of a house unless the installer certifies it has to because of LOS. I think the FCC would say that is OK. But the Boston law requires the dish companies to remove unused dishes -- and both DISH and DirecTV have basically said (through the SBCA) they don't own the dish and have no authority to remove unused dishes.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 02:41 PM

Ah... but if you are driving near a home that has a distracting satellite dish on it... and you have an accident... wouldn't that be motivation to ban the dishes?

Checkmate.

I was calling you at the time on my cell phone per your request...

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 02:51 PM

I think power lines are 10x uglier than dishes, yet no one is talking about banning those.

East Boston needs to investigate why their cable company is doing such a poor job of serving the public. That's the reason dishes are so popular.
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Posted 06 May 2012 - 02:58 PM

I think power lines are 10x uglier than dishes, yet no one is talking about banning those.


Yes, in one of the pictures there were so many wires you could barely see the dishes that were "an eyesore".

I also think that the local power companies donate money to their politicians -- DirecTV and Dish probably don't help those same elected officials. And with the Philly ban, I wonder if COMCAST had anything to do with that law?

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 04:59 AM

So until they do, it isn't the 'end of discussion.'


With respect, the discussion is in fact ended.

http://www.fcc.gov/g...atellite-dishes

The OTARD rules prohibit restrictions on a property owner or tenant’s right to install, maintain or use an antenna to receive video programming from direct broadcast satellites (DBS), broadband radio services (formerly referred to as multichannel multipoint distribution services or MMDS) and television broadcast stations (TVBS).




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