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Dish drops AMC (+WeTV, IFC & Sundance)


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#81 ONLINE   SayWhat?

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 11:12 AM

^^ Still don't know what it is.

I wish we could get all the "groups" of channels by ownership that way, and all in HD.


I've been touting that for a long time (except for the HD part --- don't care about that), but it would still mean Disney/ABC would be bloated by the unreasonably, ridiculously overpriced ESPN.
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Posted 06 May 2012 - 11:18 AM

What's 3net?


From their web site:


It's on DIRECTV channel 107.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 11:44 AM

Right now DirecTV is the only provider in our area that carries it. I supposed when 3D TV sets become more popular we'll see them on other providers.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 12:28 PM

I could care less about AMC and the others that are not it HD at any rate. I am still pissed about VOOM they were the best TV available then, and nothing replaces them now. ron


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Posted 06 May 2012 - 12:44 PM

Right now DirecTV is the only provider in our area that carries it. I supposed when 3D TV sets become more popular we'll see them on other providers.

While it is easy to pin the problem on hardware and useability issues, I submit that the real problem is a distinct lack of attractive content.

The same goes for AMC. Good content but not enough variety and with the addition of commercials, some serious useability issues.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 01:06 PM

:rolleyes:
You sure changed your tune. You relished in the idea Dish had AMC in HD when DirecTV didn't.


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Posted 06 May 2012 - 01:48 PM

since this looks like a real possibility, what "replacement channels" do you speculate dish will give us?

Obviously nothing premium, and if you already have the 250 or everything package, what would be of value?

just wondering..........

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 02:27 PM

You sure changed your tune. You relished in the idea Dish had AMC in HD when DirecTV didn't.

One could argue that AMC has changed substantially (to its detriment in some general ways) since then.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 02:42 PM

One could argue that AMC has changed substantially (to its detriment in some general ways) since then.


How so in the last 20 months? By adding even better original programming and higher ratings? Yeah, that's such a "detriment." It had commercials when those posts were made.
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Posted 06 May 2012 - 03:15 PM

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 05:03 PM

There. Fixed that for you.

When it comes to these issues, it is ALWAYS the provider that needs to be brought into line.


Why the provider? I would expect the issue is the subscriber fees and what Dish is willing to pay.

"...decision to drop AMC channels is due to viewership declines and the programmer's "high renewal price."

Based on that statement Dish isn't willing to pay the high subscriber fees. So I should contact AMC to tell them to reduce their subscriber fees for Dish?? :confused: Doubt that will EVER happen. Dish should just step up and continue to negotiate the subscriber fees....which is why contacting Dish would make the most sense. Seems like Dish is the one backing out of negotiations.

Not to mention I am a customer of Dish, NOT AMC.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 05:12 PM

Right now DirecTV is the only provider in our area that carries it. I supposed when 3D TV sets become more popular we'll see them on other providers.


IMO 3D TV will never become very popular. It is probably just a fad that will fade away. Well, unless they come out with a glasses free version that works well. Even then I would have little to no interest. As it is now I have no desire at all to buy a 3D TV. And no longer have a desire to see 3D movies in the theater. It was OK the first time or two, but the thrill is gone.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 05:17 PM

Not to mention I am a customer of Dish, NOT AMC.


Which is exactly why you should be grateful to Dish for taking a hard line on unreasonable rate increases.
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Posted 06 May 2012 - 05:28 PM

Which is exactly why you should be grateful to Dish for taking a hard line on unreasonable rate increases.


Don't get me wrong, I don't want Dish to just roll over and take the high subscriber fees! If they did not, our rates would surely increase.

I do hope Dish continues to work with AMC and they come to an agreement to continue broadcasting AMC.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 06:16 PM

Pity. IFC is one of the more interesting channels on TV.


It use to be until they went commercial and started showing edited films. I knew when I tuned in late one night and they were showing 3 Stooges shorts that the end was near. There's certainly a place for the Stooges on TV but IFC wasn't it. :(

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 06:18 PM

I wish we could get all the "groups" of channels by ownership that way, and all in HD.

It would force the big media conglomerates into the capitalist world rather than the near-socialist approach they now use. For instance, I could do without the entire Disney/ABC/ESPN group of channels including the ABC local. It appears it would save me $15± at today's prices and, using a rough guess at what number of subscribers would pay what, if there weren't any mandatory basic packages they would have to charge $35+ a month to generate between 40% to 60% of the revenue the Disney folks now rip all of us off for.

But I don't see this type of approach happening anytime soon. Rainbow Media is a weak group. And as I said, by dropping access to their channels Dish could cause them significant harm. And that's what tends to happen when you have two intransigent Charlie's in charge.;)


I think you have a basic misunderstanding of capitalism. In fact, a provider forcing you to buy their channels in groupings is capitalism at its finest. It's their product, they can sell it any way they want and no one, least of all the government, can tell them any different.
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 08:22 AM

How so in the last 20 months? By adding even better original programming and higher ratings? Yeah, that's such a "detriment." It had commercials when those posts were made.

Remembering that the three shows that you cite bring only 39 hours of programming per year (and beauty is in the eye of the beholder), they are a qualified plus.

The commercials seem to be more frequent now and that's an unqualified minus.

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 10:12 AM

I think you have a basic misunderstanding of capitalism. In fact, a provider forcing you to buy their channels in groupings is capitalism at its finest. It's their product, they can sell it any way they want and no one, least of all the government, can tell them any different.
I'm not defending this, just explaining it.


The Justice Department and the FCC might disagree with you here.
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 11:21 AM

It use to be until they went commercial and started showing edited films. I knew when I tuned in late one night and they were showing 3 Stooges shorts that the end was near. There's certainly a place for the Stooges on TV but IFC wasn't it. :(


Yeah, your right. I should have said WAS interesting. IFC use to show some off beat stuff that made it interesting, but as the commercials became more frequent, and the content more common place, it lost it's charm.

Too bad about AMC tho, I really got into hell on wheels, and breaking bad is one of my favs:(

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 12:27 PM

^^ Still don't know what it is.



I've been touting that for a long time (except for the HD part --- don't care about that), but it would still mean Disney/ABC would be bloated by the unreasonably, ridiculously overpriced ESPN.


It's a 3D channel. I'm fine with HD.

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