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Dish drops AMC (+WeTV, IFC & Sundance)


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#1521 OFFLINE   DoyleS

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 10:18 AM

The one thing this thread has done for me is to make me aware of Breaking Bad and Mad Men. I did watch Hell on Wheels last year and was looking forward to it starting next month so I will be grabbing it probably on iTunes. Since the other two shows have already had several seasons, I can easily order their episodes on DVD from Blockbuster.
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#1522 OFFLINE   DoyleS

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 10:21 AM

Interesting to note the Emmy Drama nominees. AMC clearly has a solid showing.
Outstanding Drama
"Boardwalk Empire"
"Breaking Bad"
"Downton Abbey"
"Game of Thrones"
"Homeland"
"Mad Men"

Outstanding Actress In A Drama
"Kathy Bates, "Harry's Law"
"Glenn Close, "Damages"
"Claire Danes, "Homeland"
"Michelle Dockery, "Downton Abbey"
"Julianna Margulies, "The Good Wife"
"Elisabeth Moss, "Mad Men"

Outstanding Actor in a Drama
Hugh Bonneville, "Downton Abbey"
Steve Buscemi, "Boardwalk Empire"
Bryan Cranston, "Breaking Bad"
Michael C. Hall, "Dexter"
Jon Hamm, "Mad Men"
Damian Lewis, "Homeland"

Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Drama
Aaron Paul, "Breaking Bad"
Giancarlo Esposito, "Breaking Bad"
Brendan Coyle, "Downton Abbey"
Jim Carter, "Downton Abbey" Jared Harris, "Mad Men"
Peter Dinklage, "Game of Thrones"

Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Drama
Archie Panjabi, "The Good Wife"
Anna Gunn, "Breaking Bad"
Maggie Smith, "Downton Abbey"
Joanne Froggatt, "Downton Abbey"
Christina Hendricks, "Mad Men"
Christine Baranski, "The Good Wife"
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 10:23 AM

^^ Already discussed, as well as the irrelevance of 'awards' shows.
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 10:59 AM

Interesting thread - I wish I had time to read all of the posts. Losing AMC and IFC will definitely have us switching to DTV, as we watch a lot on those networks. We have been satisfied customers for eight years, so I am hoping this won't happen.

And for Say What?, who questioned my use of "usu." I was using it an an abbreviation for "usually". Sorry if that wasn't clear from the context.
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 11:06 AM

Interesting to note the Emmy Drama nominees. AMC clearly has a solid showing.
Outstanding Drama
"Boardwalk Empire"
"Breaking Bad"
"Downton Abbey"
"Game of Thrones"
"Homeland"
"Mad Men"

These are quality shows, no question about it. What does this tell us:
  • "Boardwalk Empire" and "Game of Thrones" - on premium channel HBO
  • "Homeland" - on premium channel Showtime
  • "Downton Abbey" - part of the PBS Masterpiece Theater series supported by the Masterpiece Trust and donations from viewers like you
  • "Breaking Bad" and "Mad Men" - on an advertising/retransmission-fee supported mostly-old-movies-and-infomercials basic cable channel
IMHO something seems oddly out of place.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 11:31 AM

^^ Already discussed, as well as the irrelevance of 'awards' shows.


I disagree that awards shows are irrelevant, as an awarded show can demand higher ad rates.
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 12:05 PM

^^ Already discussed, as well as the irrelevance of 'awards' shows.


LOL!!! with over 1500 posts on this thread, most everything has been already discussed.

If AMC had no showings in the Emmy nominations it would seem that their negotiating position with their distributors and their advertisers would not be as strong. Calling something irrelevant doesn't make it irrelevant to everyone else.
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 01:36 PM

LOL!!! with over 1500 posts on this thread, most everything has been already discussed.

If AMC had no showings in the Emmy nominations it would seem that their negotiating position with their distributors and their advertisers would not be as strong. Calling something irrelevant doesn't make it irrelevant to everyone else.



It's irrelevant to him. He's taking it personal for some reason. You are dead on with your post!

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 03:08 PM

Dish network decided to drop AMC because of the suit over VOOM - pure and simple - If you sue me I will take my money else where and you will get nothing more from me.

If Disney was not such a big gorilla, all their shows would be gone too, but they have too much programming punch for Charlie to pull that one on them.

AMC will not be back on Dish Network, even if they gave their programming to Dish free - period.
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 03:16 PM

It is still worth noting that the noise has died down pretty quickly... Dish rode out the speedbump of dropping the AMC channels, and honestly there doesn't seem to be any urgency to add them back.

Ultimately AMC loses in this scenario. The viewers have moved on and found other things to watch now.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 03:22 PM

And Rainbow can't be too anxious to try the same thing with Direct or any other carrier.
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 04:25 PM

Dish network decided to drop AMC because of the suit over VOOM - pure and simple - If you sue me I will take my money else where and you will get nothing more from me.

If Disney was not such a big gorilla, all their shows would be gone too, but they have too much programming punch for Charlie to pull that one on them.

AMC will not be back on Dish Network, even if they gave their programming to Dish free - period.



And we know they already are,that's why DISH is giving out ROKUs.;)

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 11:25 PM

It is still worth noting that the noise has died down pretty quickly... Dish rode out the speedbump of dropping the AMC channels, and honestly there doesn't seem to be any urgency to add them back.

Ultimately AMC loses in this scenario. The viewers have moved on and found other things to watch now.

Well, maybe. But I'll be streaming "Hell on Wheels" through Amazon and wishing AMC were still on Dish so I could justify the $15 in order to see BBCA's "Copper".

Oh well.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 05:20 AM

And for Say What?, who questioned my use of "usu." I was using it an an abbreviation for "usually". Sorry if that wasn't clear from the context.


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Posted 21 July 2012 - 09:23 AM

And we know they already are,that's why DISH is giving out ROKUs.;)

Dish is giving out Roku's to the very very few that are aware they can get one, and then only after they go through the first line rep and are transferred to Customer Loyalty. Don't make it sound like Dish is making this magnanimous gesture out of the goodness of their hearts. They know that only a very minute percentage of subs will benefit from this situation. Still, it is surprising that Dish is doing this.

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 06:52 AM

Dish is giving out Roku's to the very very few that are aware they can get one, and then only after they go through the first line rep and are transferred to Customer Loyalty. Don't make it sound like Dish is making this magnanimous gesture out of the goodness of their hearts. They know that only a very minute percentage of subs will benefit from this situation. Still, it is surprising that Dish is doing this.


I think Roku thing is a BS 2 weeks ago they claim I was to get one I have called twice asking for tracking number I get BS that it is handled by a Dept that they can not get that info from amd will get email when it is shipped

Wonder if anyone got their one yet and if thay did how long did it take

all I got so far was hdmi cable

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 07:14 AM

Please PM me your account number so I can review the notes on your account to check on the Roku equipment for you. Please let me know. Thanks.

I think Roku thing is a BS 2 weeks ago they claim I was to get one I have called twice asking for tracking number I get BS that it is handled by a Dept that they can not get that info from amd will get email when it is shipped

Wonder if anyone got their one yet and if thay did how long did it take

all I got so far was hdmi cable



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Posted 22 July 2012 - 09:44 AM

The media went loopy with stories nearly every day over the DTV/Viacom dispute.

By comparison, there has been little coverage of this one. A few articles the first day or so, but nothing since. I see that as a symbol of how unimportant Rainbow is, how few people care and how 'done' this matter really is.
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Posted 22 July 2012 - 10:13 AM

I think Roku thing is a BS 2 weeks ago they claim I was to get one I have called twice asking for tracking number I get BS that it is handled by a Dept that they can not get that info from amd will get email when it is shipped

Wonder if anyone got their one yet and if thay did how long did it take

all I got so far was hdmi cable

Funny you should mention this. I made the call last weekend to see about getting the Roku, only because I had seen it being offered on forums like this one.

When it didn't show up this week, yesterday I chatted with a Dish rep online, and they could not see any mention on my account of a Roku being shipped. :nono: I did get the $30 credit for ordering Breaking Bad from Amazon on demand. I was then given a customer service number to call.

So I called, and sure enough no Roku mentioned on my account. The rep offered to set up rush shipping for me next week, but I asked about just getting a credit to cover the cost of just getting one at my local Best Buy store that day. She graciously offered a $60 credit to do that, and I took it, since I figured I would get the upgraded Roku that had a port for wired ethernet anyway. Before hanging up, I managed to also get a $10 credit per month for the next year.

So, it actually turned out a little more to my benefit that it got skipped initially. Ironically, I got an email a short time later saying I would be getting an HDMI cable shipped to me. :rolleyes: It must not be a "Monster" brand, as it appears to be only a $10 cable, unless it is only a few inches long! :P

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 10:20 AM

Funny you should mention this. I made the call last weekend to see about getting the Roku, only because I had seen it being offered on forums like this one.


Not that you really need it. Just jumping on the 'Gimme, Gimme' bandwagon to take advantage, eh?
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