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A 19 year old game blackout? Really!


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#1 OFFLINE   Sea bass

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 09:59 PM

What's the F ing deal with channel 692, L.A.Kings classics game of Leafs @ Kings from 1993 being blacked out on channel 692!!!! What the hell is sports pack really for!:nono:

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#2 OFFLINE   Hoosier205

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 10:24 PM

Who do you think owns the rights to that game broadcast? The NHL. Not DirecTV's fault.
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 03:58 AM

Who do you think owns the rights to that game broadcast? The NHL. Not DirecTV's fault.


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#4 OFFLINE   Pete K.

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 07:53 AM

Sea Bass;

Those classic games are blacked out so you won't even think about jumping into your time machine and going back 19 years.

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 09:08 AM

Who do you think owns the rights to that game broadcast? The NHL. Not DirecTV's fault.


My guess is that someone at Directv saw Leafs/Kings and shut off 692 in error. The NHL doesnt black out classic games.
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 09:22 AM

My guess is that someone at Directv saw Leafs/Kings and shut off 692 in error. The NHL doesnt black out classic games.

Hoosier205 assures us that DIRECTV doesn't err.

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 09:38 AM

I find it creepy that they keep track of where you lived 19 years ago just to black out classic games.
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 11:01 PM

The NHL usually doesn't black out these old games so I'm guessing this was an error. MLB on the other hand seems to get its kicks by blacking out games that are a decade old. Ticks me off just thinking about it!

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 11:55 PM

Really, isn't it The Tribune that codes all that stuff? It's a monumental task, and I am sure DIRECTV® can step in to make corrections, but they can't double check every program.
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Posted 12 May 2012 - 05:42 AM

Really, isn't it The Tribune that codes all that stuff? It's a monumental task, and I am sure DIRECTV® can step in to make corrections, but they can't double check every program.


What in the OP's post makes you assume this was a Tribune issue and not a D* issue?

But, as Harsh pointed out, Hoosier205 and Mystery have assured us it is the NHLs fault, even throwing in a condescending post against the OP, therefore it cannot possibly be the fault of Tribune or D*.

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 05:58 AM

Really, isn't it The Tribune that codes all that stuff? It's a monumental task, and I am sure DIRECTV® can step in to make corrections, but they can't double check every program.


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Posted 12 May 2012 - 06:07 AM

What in the OP's post makes you assume this was a Tribune issue and not a D* issue?

But, as Harsh pointed out, Hoosier205 and Mystery have assured us it is the NHLs fault, even throwing in a condescending post against the OP, therefore it cannot possibly be the fault of Tribune or D*.


DirecTV, as well as every other provider did not create the black out rules. But they do have to abide by them. If DirecTV was in error then shame on them. If not, then shame on the OP, Harsh , and you for looking to blame rather then looking for cause.

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 09:03 AM

Sorry you couldn't watch it. Just in case you were wondering, the final score was the same as it was 19 years ago. ;) I received the sports pack as a freebee for 3 mo's. Watched my NHL teams pregame and post-game shows, so I enjoyed it. After the season ended, cancelled it.
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Posted 12 May 2012 - 09:09 AM

DirecTV, as well as every other provider did not create the black out rules. But they do have to abide by them. If DirecTV was in error then shame on them. If not, then shame on the OP, Harsh , and you for looking to blame rather then looking for cause.


Hmm, when reading the original post, I don't see him placing full blame on Directv. He's complaining that with all the blackouts that the sports pack is lacking value, but he doesn't explicitly state who is responsible for the blackouts. You could just as easily interpret his post to place blame on the owners of those channels.
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Posted 12 May 2012 - 10:18 AM

DirecTV, as well as every other provider did not create the black out rules. But they do have to abide by them. If DirecTV was in error then shame on them. If not, then shame on the OP, Harsh , and you for looking to blame rather then looking for cause.


You need to re-read all of the posts. Not once did I blame D*, simply pointed out the immediate conclusion jumped to by Hoosier205 that it was the NHL's fault and not D*'s (no suprise there), followed by you piling on with your condescending post of the OP (it can be read no other way). You then "+1" on LAX's post which blamed Tribune when you had already agreed with Hoosier that it was the NHL's fault.

There were a few posts in the thread that did place the blame on D*, but those posts were not mine, not the OPs and not Harsh's, you seem to have missed them.

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 10:31 AM

OK, now, can someone lay out the chain of who, where and when shows get tagged for blackout.

Additional credit for "new" "rerun" "premiere" and cast info, though I am pretty sure that's all Tribune.

No aspersions on others, no rehashing the bidding to date.....
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Posted 12 May 2012 - 10:35 AM

OK, let me put it this way. The OP asked "What the hell is sports pack really for?" The answer is simple. For viewing programs and events that are not blacked out due to your location......you just have to learn to live with those pesky black out rules.

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 12:58 PM

When I was 19 I blacked out at a hockey match, but then, I'd drunk too much.

That wasn't DirecTV's fault, either.
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Posted 12 May 2012 - 03:37 PM

When I was 19 I blacked out at a hockey match, but then, I'd drunk too much.

That wasn't DirecTV's fault, either.


When I was 17 I blacked out during a hockey game as well, but it was because I wasn't keeping my head up and got blasted. :)

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 11:07 AM

OK, now, can someone lay out the chain of who, where and when shows get tagged for blackout.

Additional credit for "new" "rerun" "premiere" and cast info, though I am pretty sure that's all Tribune.

No aspersions on others, no rehashing the bidding to date.....


Tribune is not responsible for the blackouts. All Tribune is responsible for is the information displayed in the guide.

Since each sports league/organizational body (MLB, MLS, NBA, NFL, ETC) owns the copyright to all sporting events in its organization, they have the ultimate say in what will be shown or blacked out, when and where. The games, whether old or new, are commodities to be marketed for profit. Therefore, each organization writes its own rules on who has (or can purchase) the rights to its copyrighted material. They set the prices and the purchasers (RSNs, national/broadcast networks, even the consumer when it comes to a sports subscription) decide whether the price is fair and they will pay for the access. Therefore, if a RSN wanted to show a game (or a season) nationally, they could-they would just have to pay extra for that right. However, it is usually not cost effective for a RSN to pay for the rights beyond its home team marketing area, so they don't.

In essence, it is basic Business 101-contracts, rights, ownership and all that. Nothing personal, just business.

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