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A 19 year old game blackout? Really!


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#21 OFFLINE   Laxguy

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 01:35 PM

Tribune is not responsible for the blackouts. All Tribune is responsible for is the information displayed in the guide.


I'm not disputing—nor have I ever disputed—the part I deleted.

If someone who knows the chain of black out tags, please post it. Of course the owner of the rights determine what they are, but how is that implemented?

I.e., is it not possible that the Tribune sets these following instructions from the owner, but occasionally makes mistakes- and hence is "responsible" for some blackouts that shouldn't be? Or are these set by DIRECTV®, who'd then bear responsibility for errors?
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Posted 29 May 2012 - 08:35 PM

I'm sure I'll regret posting this after reading through some of these replys, but again tonight a "classic game" on 693 is blacked out? Not blaming D*, just would like to get a clear answer. D* CSR I just talked to had no answer except the ol geographic / boundary blackout bs. Maybe it does apply to 19 year old games! Oh well, if someone does find out what the f.... I'd like to know! Thanks.

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 09:16 PM

I'm sure I'll regret posting this after reading through some of these replys, but again tonight a "classic game" on 693 is blacked out? Not blaming D*, just would like to get a clear answer. D* CSR I just talked to had no answer except the ol geographic / boundary blackout bs. Maybe it does apply to 19 year old games! Oh well, if someone does find out what the f.... I'd like to know! Thanks.


It has to do with rights holders. The RSN showing it only has the rights to show it to those in a specified territory.

Who benefits in deals that limit the number of viewers between the league and network? No idea, but they do, which explains why it's blacked out. It would seem to me the leagues would want their product (especially replays from years ago) to be seen by the most eyes possible but their own policies contradict that.

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 06:21 AM

Who benefits in deals that limit the number of viewers between the league and network?


There is a potential benefit for the league if they can sell the rights to another provider in another territory and bring in an additional fee. If no one else is willing to pay the fee, then no one benefits; however, if the league gave one RSN the national rights for the same fee as they paid for the regional rights just because no one else was willing to pay for a particular game, then no one would ever be willing to pay for national rights - they would pay for regional rights and hope that no one else wanted to show the game.

Often when a game is blacked out in a particular region it is because another obscure channel in that region, regardless of whether that channel is on DirecTV or available OTA, has paid for the rights for that region. Those blackouts even apply if the channel who has paid for the rights decides to preempt the broadcast and show something else. That happens all the time with WRAL in Raleigh. They have the rights to the CBS SEC games of the week, but if Duke, UNC, or NCSU are playing, they will preempt the SEC game to show one of the local teams, but the SEC game is still not available on DirecTV. I tried to get a waiver from WRAL so I could get the SEC game on the national CBS feed on DirecTV, but, of course, I was denied. WRAL has started showing the SEC games on 5.2, but that is not in HD. It is hard being a Kentucky fan in North Carolina.

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 06:52 AM

I blame FSN, there is no rhyme or reason to their blackout policies. I'm an Steeler fan having grown up in Pittsburgh. I'm in SoCal now and like to watch the Mike Tomlin press conference every week. It shows on Fox Pittsburgh on Tuesdays and repeats on Thursdays. The Tuesday showing is blacked out but the Thursday showing is not. Makes no sense, it is the exact same show.

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 07:00 AM

Sorry you couldn't watch it. Just in case you were wondering, the final score was the same as it was 19 years ago. ;) ...


I remember watching the taped broadcast of the 1980 USA/Russia Olympic semi-final hockey game after having listened to it live on the radio earlier. I was sick to my stomach through the whole game, worried that we couldn't beat them twice in one day.

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 10:48 AM

What games! We beat them by the exact same score both times.....
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Posted 30 May 2012 - 10:49 AM

I'm sure I'll regret posting this after reading through some of these replys, but again tonight a "classic game" on 693 is blacked out? Not blaming D*, just would like to get a clear answer. D* CSR I just talked to had no answer except the ol geographic / boundary blackout bs. Maybe it does apply to 19 year old games! Oh well, if someone does find out what the f.... I'd like to know! Thanks.


Wait, is "San Berdoo"/San Bernardino your correct current location? If so, nothing on 692 or 693 should ever be blacked out for you, since they're your local RSNs, and you're in the Los Angeles DMA and the territories of all the teams involved.

I would suggest getting in touch with the executive customer service department at ellen.filipiak@directv.com to try to track down this problem -- my guess is that your ZIP code may be listed incorrectly in some of the databases DirecTV uses to determine blackouts.
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