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Bye Bye Blackberry... maybe.


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#1 OFFLINE   Marlin Guy

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 03:59 PM

Looking at market closing news today it appears that several are saying that RIMM's days may be numbered.
They have apparently hired JP Morgan to help coach them, and many are saying that they are likely to be ripe for the taking. Analysts doibt any big players like HTC would be interested, but some smaller Chinese companies could be players.

Does anyone here still use Blackberry? :confused:
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#2 OFFLINE   dpeters11

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 05:59 PM

I do, though I use it mostly for email. I actually like 7.1, though I do also like iOS and have an iPad. I hate Android. Blackberry is the best for Exchange integration to me, using BES.

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 06:03 PM

Yeah, I've been saying that BB is in trouble for quite some time now. They just don't get it. They've been stuck in limbo between business phone and consumer phone and can't get either right. I switched from BB to Android almost exactly a year ago, and I don't miss anything about BB. Even the email is better on Android. Using an email app like TouchDown is hands down superior to BB, and it's not even that close.

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 06:14 PM

Most of my support calls are from users that chose Android and Touchdown for email.

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 06:30 PM

I hate Android. Blackberry is the best for Exchange integration to me, using BES.


+1.
My company swapped out my Blackberry two years ago for an Android. While I like the internet and WiFi hotspot on the Android, it's integration with my email, contacts and calendars is sadly lacking when compared to a BB.

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 06:44 PM

BB is tops for email and their handsets have better reception than most.

I had an Android and hated it. Sold it and went back to BB. I don't play games or watch videos on my phone though.

There is nothing wrong with BB for business. It will never be a kids phone.

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 06:50 PM

Switched exactly two years ago to an Android phone and couldn't be happier.

I use it strictly for a phone, email, calendar, and contacts - no games, no videos, none of the "extras" (well, occasionally I'll use the GPS). Does everything my BB did, but better.

I'm sure Directv can't wait to get their hands on your unit.

 
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Posted 29 May 2012 - 06:58 PM

I think part of my frustration with android is fragmentation. I can't restrict users to particular models, so I've got units with multiple UIs, OS version is at the whim of the carrier. Walking a user through something is challenging if they can't even find the power button or need to get new hardware and are upset that they have to rebuy apps because they have no idea what their Google email address is, let alone the password. I don't run into that much on Apple units.

Though I am still trying to get some users to update past 3.x or 4.1, and some that can't.

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 07:18 PM

I dislike both Android (fragmentation, polluted market) and iPhone, even I see the end of RIM. And look at my handle :(

I recently switched to a very nice Nokia Lumia Windows Phon 7.5.

Exchange integration (via Exchange Active Sync) is fine. I like the UI (Metro is different, if nothing else) and finally gave up on my BlackBerry.

They aren't dead. Yet. But they are hurting and will be for the next two years.

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 07:41 PM

You moved off Blackberry?! That's almost like Stuart Sweet going to Dish. I remember you from your mod days. I will say the two users I have with Windows Phone, love it.

I'm also curious, those that say their Android phone does email better...how so? I can't tell you how many times I've had a user say that their phone does this or that in comparison to Blackberry, and I can say, yep mine can do that as well.

Sometimes it's a matter of OS version, sometimes what an admin allows or doesn't allow.

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 07:52 PM

I have a list of things that Windows Phone 7 can't do, that BlackBerry can..
But I switched and I am sticking with it. I guess I just got bored with the sameness...

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 07:56 PM

On the Blackberry side, I just hope they allow trading in BES licenses for BB10 Mobile Fusion licenses.

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 08:12 PM

Most of my support calls are from users that chose Android and Touchdown for email.


That may be, but TouchDown is light years better than BlackBerry. It is very powerful, with many more features, so maybe some of the less tech-savvy people will have some questions.

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 08:16 PM

Examples?

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 08:16 PM

They already announced a workforce cut of 2000-6000 jobs. They've acknowledged that their tablet has failed to produce any value to their brand and that at this point if BB10 doesnt' take off they're just going to be a niche product or an acquisition for a patent portfolio.

Supposedly Canada is thinking about government assistance in some manner so that they can keep a global cellular company in the market place. Overall though this has been something that's been happening for a long time. The similarity between them and TiVo is astounding.

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 10:11 AM

A thread from a year ago on this topic. :lol:

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 10:14 AM

A thread from a year ago on this topic. :lol:


http://www.dbstalk.c...845#post2733845

Whoops. ;)

The irony of his current avatar isn't lost on me either. :D

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 10:52 AM

http://money.cnn.com...berry.cnnmoney/

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 03:03 PM

More bad news for RIM here. Seems to me delaying Blackberry 10 is just compounding their problems.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 11:41 AM

More bad news for RIM here. Seems to me delaying Blackberry 10 is just compounding their problems.


RIM is circling that drain or death slowly and will eventually drop in. I really don't think there is anything they can do to save themselves at this point, With private companies dropping them slowly, it's just a matter of time. Even consumers don't want to wait anymore for BB next big thing that might revive them.
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Posted 29 June 2012 - 11:46 AM

The vultures are circling, RIMM is in big trouble.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 01:26 PM

I was a huge RIM fan, now all iPhone/iPad/Apple TV ... (what a shame).

You need to very nimble these days.

Used to say the same about TiVo, until I moved to HR2x/HR3x.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 05:40 PM

My company has gone to all iPhones now. We're all very happy.

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 06:46 AM

Well most of the customers shifted to the android as they have many useful features and i am one among them. Android is a great platform which provides a way to access many applications and i think people using BB are in a rare count now.

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 08:10 AM

My company has gone to all iPhones now. We're all very happy.

Well most of the customers shifted to the android as they have many useful features and i am one among them. Android is a great platform which provides a way to access many applications and i think people using BB are in a rare count now.

I suspect our company (20,000+ employees) will go the Android route if RIM goes much further south - Android is already are supported for some product-specific apps and integrated solutions, while Apple products are banned for company use.

Ironically, I just got a new BB Torch 9500 series issued a few weeks back, and asked "what if..." questions. The response I got was "we'll look at alternatives if and when the time comes". I suspect a plan is already in place should RIM fold or get bought.
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