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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q3-12 Thread)


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#3526 OFFLINE   Alan Gordon

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 03:08 PM

Where is CNN Headline News???????


I have no interest in Headline News... hence it being excluded from the channels I'm interested in.

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#3527 OFFLINE   loudo

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 03:13 PM

I have no interest in Headline News... hence it being excluded from the channels I'm interested in.

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Agree, but I would if they went back to their original format, like their title says, "Headline News".
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 03:14 PM

FMC was omitted from the poll in 2011 due to it's omission from the survey. . .


Which is sort of interesting in itself. If you recall, the reason given for D* ommitting certain channels from the 2011 survey were that they either already knew there was strong feeling for them, or already planned to add them. It's hard to imagine that FMC qualified on the first account at that time. Soo. . . .and yet, it hasn't been added. It was not available in HD at the time tho, so perhaps that was the real reason it was excluded.
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 03:19 PM

Also, FMC wasn't available in HD when the 2010 poll was done, and while for some voters little facts like that don't seem to impact their voting, for others it probably did --so I wouldn't take the 2010 results as dispositive for pro-FMC HD feeling now that it *is* available in HD.
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 03:35 PM

Come to think of it, the Encore HD's (also not in the 2011 poll) likely will do well too --I'll vote for them.
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 03:59 PM

Agree, but I would if they went back to their original format, like their title says, "Headline News".


Personally, I'd prefer the widescreen feed of BBC World News. It might technically not be HD but would be a much better source of world news than any of those currently available in HD.
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 04:11 PM

Agree, but I would if they went back to their original format, like their title says, "Headline News".


I feel that way about the many ((most?) channels that all drift away from their original concept to become some strange mishmash of reality and other junk (IMO) programming.

We get more channels, but I find less and less that I want to watch. Were it not for sports, I really could live without pay TV these days. I guess I'm just becoming a curmudgeon.

Still...I'm happy to see DIY in HD :)

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 04:19 PM

Agree, but I would if they went back to their original format, like their title says, "Headline News".


I'm not sure I'd care then either, but they might then stand a chance of being the only "news" channel that slightly interests me.

Which is sort of interesting in itself. If you recall, the reason given for D* ommitting certain channels from the 2011 survey were that they either already knew there was strong feeling for them, or already planned to add them. It's hard to imagine that FMC qualified on the first account at that time. Soo. . . .and yet, it hasn't been added. It was not available in HD at the time tho, so perhaps that was the real reason it was excluded.


Yep! I certainly expected to have FMC last year...

Also, FMC wasn't available in HD when the 2010 poll was done, and while for some voters little facts like that don't seem to impact their voting, for others it probably did --so I wouldn't take the 2010 results as dispositive for pro-FMC HD feeling now that it *is* available in HD.


Point taken...

TV Land also landed on the 2010 poll even though it had not launched yet or the foreseeable future at the time of the poll.

While it's not a must-have channel for me personally, as I've seen most everything the channel airs, FMC would be a nice addition in my mind.

I'm just making predictions... :)

Come to think of it, the Encore HD's (also not in the 2011 poll) likely will do well too --I'll vote for them.


Yep! I suspect they will do quite well too.

We get more channels, but I find less and less that I want to watch. Were it not for sports, I really could live without pay TV these days. I guess I'm just becoming a curmudgeon.


Replace sports with original SCRIPTED programming, and I agree...

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 04:48 PM

TCM may have come a few months after TruTV, but my chances of Cooking and Style getting added has actually gone down because they didn't come concurrently. That obviously has nothing to do with anything, but that's where I stand...


Could it be that Directv is doing these in onesie-twosies as part of the deployment of the new encoders and the transponder rebalancing, moving up to 6 channels per tp? Under this scenario, Style, Cooking, etc could easily be in one of the next rounds of upgrades.

It would be kinda fun to get a couple new HDs each month over the next year.
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 04:54 PM

Could it be that Directv is doing these in onesie-twosies as part of the deployment of the new encoders and the transponder rebalancing, moving up to 6 channels per tp? Under this scenario, Style, Cooking, etc could easily be in one of the next rounds of upgrades.

It would be kinda fun to get a couple new HDs each month over the next year.


Current thinking is the engineering budgets are quarterly.

Then there's contracts. I remain convinced they have some "in their pocket" contracts that they can launch HD at their discretion (understanding that their "discretion" is still impacted by a complicated mix of factors), but that list is probably getting shorter as they've actually done some of these recent launches, so "Tango --the forbidden (to broadcast) dance" is probably increasing in importance as a limiting factor again.
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 05:05 PM

Could it be that Directv is doing these in onesie-twosies as part of the deployment of the new encoders and the transponder rebalancing, moving up to 6 channels per tp? Under this scenario, Style, Cooking, etc could easily be in one of the next rounds of upgrades.

It would be kinda fun to get a couple new HDs each month over the next year.


No idea...

I'm thinking no, but my conclusion isn't even an educated guess, so something could pop up in the next few months and wouldn't really surprise me.

It's just my personal feeling. Nothing more...

Current thinking is the engineering budgets are quarterly.

Then there's contracts. I remain convinced they have some "in their pocket" contracts that they can launch HD at their discretion (understanding that their "discretion" is still impacted by a complicated mix of factors), but that list is probably getting shorter as they've actually done some of these recent launches, so "Tango --the forbidden (to broadcast) dance" is probably increasing in importance as a limiting factor again.


We know DirecTV has deals for the .plex channels with no start dates announced. Beyond that, it wouldn't surprise me...

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 05:11 PM

We know DirecTV has deals for the .plex channels with no start dates announced. Beyond that, it wouldn't surprise me...

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They also have an option on Epix.
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 05:17 PM

They also have an option on Epix.


I was not aware...

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 05:20 PM

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 05:30 PM

I was not aware...

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I recall they got the right to Epix but did not exercise it at the end of the Viacom dispute.
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 06:05 PM

I recall they got the right to Epix but did not exercise it at the end of the Viacom dispute.


They only had it offered as an addition at a cost. They declined. That's what was reported. Saying they got the right to it makes it sound as if something changed. Epix has been available since it launched and DirecTV has never agreed to carry it. Epix started out as overpriced and then shot themselves in the foot with their Netflix deal which watered down their value to providers.
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 06:27 PM

They only had it offered as an addition at a cost. They declined. That's what was reported. Saying they got the right to it makes it sound as if something changed. Epix has been available since it launched and DirecTV has never agreed to carry it. Epix started out as overpriced and then shot themselves in the foot with their Netflix deal which watered down their value to providers.


They have an position on it. It did change. They set a price. Directv has not to date exercised that option. That is all correct. If they want to put it on tomorrow they can. last year, they would have had to reach an agreement. It is the same as the plex channels.

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 06:44 PM

They have an position on it. It did change. They set a price. Directv has not to date exercised that option. That is all correct. If they want to put it on tomorrow they can. last year, they would have had to reach an agreement. It is the same as the plex channels.

"As part of ending the 10-day dispute, DirecTV has an option to add the EPIX service to its entertainment offerings, Viacom noted on its official blog."


Their position has not changed and there is no proof that it has. Note your source there. An agreement is still required.
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 07:58 PM

Take this as you want but here is what the PAC 12 said today about DirecTV. http://pac-12.com/po...fan/120918.html

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 08:06 PM

maybe diy and ion tomorrow.

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 08:07 PM

Take this as you want but here is what the PAC 12 said today about DirecTV. http://pac-12.com/po...fan/120918.html


Haha! They've gone from saying the offers were identical to fundamentally similar.
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 08:08 PM

Haha! They've gone from saying the offers were identical to fundamentally similar.


At least they are getting closer to the truth.
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 08:09 PM

maybe diy and ion tomorrow.



It's what we expect.
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 08:28 PM

Pac-12 Network's statement:

… Despite your thousands of emails, tweets, calls and posts, DirecTV is tuning out its loyal customers and still refusing to reach a fair agreement.

While we cannot explain it, so far DirecTV, which has always claimed to be the "sports leader," is simply not interested in offering its customers the Pac-12 Networks. …


What a cynical statement! I have been critical of DirecTV over its lack of basic-cable in HD. And I believe Pac-12 Network is full of *s*.

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 10:41 PM

Take this as you want but here is what the PAC 12 said today about DirecTV. http://pac-12.com/po...fan/120918.html


More evidence that DirecTV runs the show right now. PAC-12 is getting a bit more desperate.
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