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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q3-12 Thread)


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#3521 OFFLINE   Alan Gordon

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 02:30 PM

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After DIY Network HD comes in, I feel its sister, Cooking Channel HD, will get added at a later date. Since we did get truTV HD and Turner Classic Movies HD, I look to Headline News HD for the same reason. With E! Entertainment Television HD now available to DirecTV subscribers, I believe Style Network HD will get added before 2014. And while many justly want H2 HD added, I think A&E Networks' other missing HD (on DirecTV) will come in: Lifetime Movie Network HD. I don't feel strongly that all three basic-cable Viacoms — MTV2 HD, Nick Jr. HD, and TV Land HD — will get added, but I would feel more comfy predicting the last of the three due to originally-produced series which do have name stars. Dish Network carries none of those Viacoms, so perhaps DirecTV will beat Dish to the punch.


TCM may have come a few months after TruTV, but my chances of Cooking and Style getting added has actually gone down because they didn't come concurrently. That obviously has nothing to do with anything, but that's where I stand...

I STRONGLY feel we will be getting TV Land HD prior to the end of the year... heck, I'm predicting prior to November ending, but I don't really put MTV2's chances very high at ALL prior to D14.

Nick, Jr. HD?! When is that starting?!

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#3522 OFFLINE   georule

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 02:55 PM

I'm going to predict H2 at #1, and TV Land #2.

My personal opinion. Beyond that, it just depends...

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I'm going to predict that H2 does *not* land at #1. I'm not sure what will, but I bet it doesn't. It's sort of a classic "I'd like to have it, but its not my first priority" kind of channel (and I say that as someone who voted for it last time, is the highest of those left that I voted for at at time, intend to vote for it again this time, and yet don't intend to vote for it as #1 this time).

I don't think it'll land lower than #4. I think #3 is most likely, but certainly #2 is possible.

If Pac 12 gets included in the poll, that'd be my bet for #1, even tho its not truly national in extent.

FMC and TVLand are my dark horses for landing in the 1/2 slots. I expect most of the former TCM vote to migrate to FMC (including me) this time around.

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 02:57 PM

The only problem with all this HD (I know oxymoron... Problem and HD) are times like now when I've lost all HD for the last hour due to a heavy downpour. Signals are in the 0-49 range.

Time for better LNB anticipation the day that all the channels are HD.

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#3524 OFFLINE   steinmeg

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 03:01 PM

Your list is a little smaller than mine... :)



Though as I've stated previously, after tomorrow's additions, I would be pretty much content except for four channels.

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  • Cooking Channel
  • Lifetime Movie Network


It'd all be gravy after them... :)

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 03:06 PM

I'm going to predict that H2 does *not* land at #1. I'm not sure what will, but I bet it doesn't. It's sort of a classic "I'd like to have it, but its not my first priority" kind of channel.

I don't think it'll land lower than #4. I think #3 is most likely, but certainly #2 is possible.

If Pac 12 gets included in the poll, that'd be my bet for #1, even tho its not truly national in extent.

FMC and TVLand are my dark horses for landing in the 1/2 slots. I expect most of the former TCM vote to migrate to FMC (including me) this time around.


FMC was omitted from the poll in 2011 due to it's omission from the survey, but it ranked #11 in 2010. Only one channel that beat it hasn't been added yet... IFC-HD. However, in 2011, IFC was #5... and the only channel ahead of it that hasn't been added yet is H2. So... I still believe that H2 will rank above those...

TV Land is a new channel and unlike FMC, includes original programming as well as older programming, so I'm going with it as my #2, but it's possible that FMC could beat it. Given what I've heard about IFC-HD though, I'd personally be very disappointed by it ranking higher than TV Land. It's also probably the most notable channel launch since the last poll.

Pac-12 and TWC SportsNet will be some interesting wild cards thrown in the mix though... :)

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 03:08 PM

Where is CNN Headline News???????


I have no interest in Headline News... hence it being excluded from the channels I'm interested in.

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 03:13 PM

I have no interest in Headline News... hence it being excluded from the channels I'm interested in.

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Agree, but I would if they went back to their original format, like their title says, "Headline News".

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 03:14 PM

FMC was omitted from the poll in 2011 due to it's omission from the survey. . .


Which is sort of interesting in itself. If you recall, the reason given for D* ommitting certain channels from the 2011 survey were that they either already knew there was strong feeling for them, or already planned to add them. It's hard to imagine that FMC qualified on the first account at that time. Soo. . . .and yet, it hasn't been added. It was not available in HD at the time tho, so perhaps that was the real reason it was excluded.
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 03:19 PM

Also, FMC wasn't available in HD when the 2010 poll was done, and while for some voters little facts like that don't seem to impact their voting, for others it probably did --so I wouldn't take the 2010 results as dispositive for pro-FMC HD feeling now that it *is* available in HD.
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 03:35 PM

Come to think of it, the Encore HD's (also not in the 2011 poll) likely will do well too --I'll vote for them.
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 03:59 PM

Agree, but I would if they went back to their original format, like their title says, "Headline News".


Personally, I'd prefer the widescreen feed of BBC World News. It might technically not be HD but would be a much better source of world news than any of those currently available in HD.
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 04:11 PM

Agree, but I would if they went back to their original format, like their title says, "Headline News".


I feel that way about the many ((most?) channels that all drift away from their original concept to become some strange mishmash of reality and other junk (IMO) programming.

We get more channels, but I find less and less that I want to watch. Were it not for sports, I really could live without pay TV these days. I guess I'm just becoming a curmudgeon.

Still...I'm happy to see DIY in HD :)

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 04:19 PM

Agree, but I would if they went back to their original format, like their title says, "Headline News".


I'm not sure I'd care then either, but they might then stand a chance of being the only "news" channel that slightly interests me.

Which is sort of interesting in itself. If you recall, the reason given for D* ommitting certain channels from the 2011 survey were that they either already knew there was strong feeling for them, or already planned to add them. It's hard to imagine that FMC qualified on the first account at that time. Soo. . . .and yet, it hasn't been added. It was not available in HD at the time tho, so perhaps that was the real reason it was excluded.


Yep! I certainly expected to have FMC last year...

Also, FMC wasn't available in HD when the 2010 poll was done, and while for some voters little facts like that don't seem to impact their voting, for others it probably did --so I wouldn't take the 2010 results as dispositive for pro-FMC HD feeling now that it *is* available in HD.


Point taken...

TV Land also landed on the 2010 poll even though it had not launched yet or the foreseeable future at the time of the poll.

While it's not a must-have channel for me personally, as I've seen most everything the channel airs, FMC would be a nice addition in my mind.

I'm just making predictions... :)

Come to think of it, the Encore HD's (also not in the 2011 poll) likely will do well too --I'll vote for them.


Yep! I suspect they will do quite well too.

We get more channels, but I find less and less that I want to watch. Were it not for sports, I really could live without pay TV these days. I guess I'm just becoming a curmudgeon.


Replace sports with original SCRIPTED programming, and I agree...

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 04:48 PM

TCM may have come a few months after TruTV, but my chances of Cooking and Style getting added has actually gone down because they didn't come concurrently. That obviously has nothing to do with anything, but that's where I stand...


Could it be that Directv is doing these in onesie-twosies as part of the deployment of the new encoders and the transponder rebalancing, moving up to 6 channels per tp? Under this scenario, Style, Cooking, etc could easily be in one of the next rounds of upgrades.

It would be kinda fun to get a couple new HDs each month over the next year.
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 04:54 PM

Could it be that Directv is doing these in onesie-twosies as part of the deployment of the new encoders and the transponder rebalancing, moving up to 6 channels per tp? Under this scenario, Style, Cooking, etc could easily be in one of the next rounds of upgrades.

It would be kinda fun to get a couple new HDs each month over the next year.


Current thinking is the engineering budgets are quarterly.

Then there's contracts. I remain convinced they have some "in their pocket" contracts that they can launch HD at their discretion (understanding that their "discretion" is still impacted by a complicated mix of factors), but that list is probably getting shorter as they've actually done some of these recent launches, so "Tango --the forbidden (to broadcast) dance" is probably increasing in importance as a limiting factor again.
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 05:05 PM

Could it be that Directv is doing these in onesie-twosies as part of the deployment of the new encoders and the transponder rebalancing, moving up to 6 channels per tp? Under this scenario, Style, Cooking, etc could easily be in one of the next rounds of upgrades.

It would be kinda fun to get a couple new HDs each month over the next year.


No idea...

I'm thinking no, but my conclusion isn't even an educated guess, so something could pop up in the next few months and wouldn't really surprise me.

It's just my personal feeling. Nothing more...

Current thinking is the engineering budgets are quarterly.

Then there's contracts. I remain convinced they have some "in their pocket" contracts that they can launch HD at their discretion (understanding that their "discretion" is still impacted by a complicated mix of factors), but that list is probably getting shorter as they've actually done some of these recent launches, so "Tango --the forbidden (to broadcast) dance" is probably increasing in importance as a limiting factor again.


We know DirecTV has deals for the .plex channels with no start dates announced. Beyond that, it wouldn't surprise me...

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 05:11 PM

We know DirecTV has deals for the .plex channels with no start dates announced. Beyond that, it wouldn't surprise me...

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They also have an option on Epix.
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 05:17 PM

They also have an option on Epix.


I was not aware...

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 05:20 PM

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 05:30 PM

I was not aware...

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I recall they got the right to Epix but did not exercise it at the end of the Viacom dispute.
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