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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q3-12 Thread)


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#826 OFFLINE   makaiguy

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:15 PM

the wife is keen to add h2, however. it seems that some of the shows she likes are now on that channel.

I'd like to see H2 in HD also. Far as I'm concerned, they could switch their HD carriage from History to H2. IMHO, HD is wasted on History's current crap, er, reality programming.
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#827 OFFLINE   tonyd79

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:47 PM

I'd like to see H2 in HD also. Far as I'm concerned, they could switch their HD carriage from History to H2. IMHO, HD is wasted on History's current crap, er, reality programming.


If we got H2 in hd, theyd probably move the real history to H3. Or merge with Oprah and make H2O.

My only issue with H2 in hd is that the history channel folks love to streeeetch older documentaries.
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 10:29 PM

I'd like to see H2 in HD also. Far as I'm concerned, they could switch their HD carriage from History to H2. IMHO, HD is wasted on History's current crap, er, reality programming.


Well, I like Pawn Stars in HD.

But, I will admit, there is a degree of unfairness in what they've done in switching their historical programming to H2, where many of us who loved it *too* can no longer see it in HD.
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 11:35 PM

Per today's Viacom deal, it's obvious that digital rights is key to any new deal most likely.


Very astute
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 11:36 PM

My realistic bets are BBCA and H2.



Ever since HDnet rebranded, I wouldn't be surprised if this will surface.


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#831 OFFLINE   Alan Gordon

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 11:43 PM

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I think he was referring to the content similarities between MavTV and the former HDNet...

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 11:47 PM

Very astute


^ About the digital rights, yes.

As for high definition, do you think that if DirecTV were to add MTV2 HD, Nick Jr. HD, and TV Land HD, it may happen during the period of this new contract? (I haven't read anything about any of the trio's HD playing a role with this new agreement.)

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 07:10 AM

^ About the digital rights, yes.

As for high definition, do you think that if DirecTV were to add MTV2 HD, Nick Jr. HD, and TV Land HD, it may happen during the period of this new contract? (I haven't read anything about any of the trio's HD playing a role with this new agreement.)

Now that they have a deal, and it includes digital rights, it's probably more possible now then it was, with possibly the remaining factor just being where those channels appear on a bandwidth allocation priority list.

I'd guess that they know how much bandwidth is available between now and D14, know what HD channels they'd like to launch and in what priority, and once contracts get done they can decide on launch dates, whether it stays right on schedule, moves up, or waits for D14.
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Posted 21 July 2012 - 07:20 AM

I really have to laugh about all of these people who want to see TVLand's 1950's tv shows in HD. Give me a break.

How about NatGeo Wild in HD? Showing that only in SD is a sin. Didn't Fox/Nat Geo renew with DTV a few months ago?

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 07:33 AM

I really have to laugh about all of these people who want to see TVLand's 1950's tv shows in HD. Give me a break.

Have you watched TCM HD since it went live, mitchflorida? Even though much of their programming is 70 year old movies, and everything is upconverted from SD to HD so we aren't seeing any real HD transfers, the older movies look much better now. The change from an SD broadcast to an HD one exceeded my expectations.

No disagreement about NatGeo Wild, though. It should be in HD.
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#836 OFFLINE   Sixto

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 07:39 AM

A simple up convert of SD to HD is a tremendous improvement due to the limited SD bandwidth. We talked in the past of just up converting SD for some channels, but it's not clear if they need rights to do that.
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Posted 21 July 2012 - 07:53 AM

A simple up convert of SD to HD is a tremendous improvement due to the limited SD bandwidth. We talked in the past of just up converting SD for some channels, but it's not clear if they need rights to do that.


They could change selected SD channels to MPEG4 and give them more bandwidth and they would look pretty damned good, too.
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Posted 21 July 2012 - 08:17 AM

They could change selected SD channels to MPEG4 and give them more bandwidth and they would look pretty damned good, too.

Agreed.

We've talked about that too, for most people they would think it was HD-like. SD with lots of bandwidth, which is how DirecTV was 10-15 years ago was really good, not HD, but very good picture.
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Posted 21 July 2012 - 08:29 AM

I have been reading this site for years and it is quite simple that you can sum up the current status as the following:

Directv negotiates long term deals with digital rights and HD access to channels. If they have digital rights right now, then you know that HD is available for them to add.

HD is limited based on technological and financial considerations. As a business, they decide after "acquiring" the rights when and if they will add it to the lineup. Again, if they have digital rights to a provider, then you know what HD is available.

Infrastructure creates a lag between acquiring the rights and executing it into the lineup.

Providers need wide distribution, therefore put pressure to be on low pay tiers. This is a way to leverage higher gross money. The higher selective tier the harder to make a money unless a high premium channel.

Directv does not want to ever be in short term deals or negotiating one channel that is popular. This limits their leverage as a very large provider. Also, digital rights is a great strategy to limit cutting the cord movement.

My WAG guess is that the premium for HD will disappear in these deals as they become comprehensive in nature. So true will be our bill when HD penetration reaches a threshold which is still in the distant horizon. Satteliteracer reminds us of our minority status in the big picture. The only rejoiner is that I am a high value customer with a bill that averages over $170 a month.

Anyway, I read Sixto because technology allows Directv to dribble out HD in the next 24-36 months. When the next sattelite is up, then they can grow the HD content beyond dribbling. In addition, they have a long term plan to make SD being able to use the HD feeds. When this happens all channels will be HD. That date will make this thread superfluous.

Thanks to satteliteracer for his posts:)

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 08:41 AM

What percentage of DTV's subscribers pay for HD?

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 11:07 AM

Per today's Viacom deal, it's obvious that digital rights is key to any new deal most likely.


Sixto you bring up an interesting point, DIY and Cooking are two channels in SD I would love in HD, both of those channels currently are not streamed. So i would imagine the HD and online streaming are intertwined.

Also, with the Pac12 info that broke yesterday that you will need a TV provider aligned with them to watch streaming events things are starting to add up. Seems all new deals will include online access if at all possible.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 11:32 AM

Have you watched TCM HD since it went live, mitchflorida? Even though much of their programming is 70 year old movies, and everything is upconverted from SD to HD so we aren't seeing any real HD transfers, the older movies look much better now. The change from an SD broadcast to an HD one exceeded my expectations.

No disagreement about NatGeo Wild, though. It should be in HD.

Also have you noticed that they have 5.1 surround sound?

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 01:34 PM

Sixto,

Thanks!



mitchflorida,

TV Land's schedule isn't it what was after it launched in 1996.





This has me wondering what other programming is up for contractual renewal. I was thinking someone mentioned Discovery near the end of the year. (Not sure if that's accurate recall.)

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 01:39 PM

I'd like to see Fuse HD - they actually show music videos... I'd like to see Fox/FX Movie channel HD-they have a good mix of classic and modern movie hits. EPIX HD-just because. CWHD east or west-pq is just horrible in SD...

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 02:13 PM

Sixto,

Thanks!

mitchflorida,

TV Land's schedule isn't it what was after it launched in 1996.

This has me wondering what other programming is up for contractual renewal. I was thinking someone mentioned Discovery near the end of the year. (Not sure if that's accurate recall.)


TVLand has sort of returned to its roots for part of the day. I Love Lucy. Dick Van Dyke. Andy Griffith. Bonanza. Gun smoke. Leave It to Beaver. They have stuff from the 90s too and their own new stuff (HD) but they have gone back to classics more or less.
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Posted 21 July 2012 - 02:36 PM

TVLand has sort of returned to its roots for part of the day. I Love Lucy. Dick Van Dyke. Andy Griffith. Bonanza. Gun smoke. Leave It to Beaver. They have stuff from the 90s too and their own new stuff (HD) but they have gone back to classics more or less.


I'm glad they're going back to the old shows, but unfortunately they butcher them up pretty badly because of so much commercial time.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 03:11 PM

I really have to laugh about all of these people who want to see TVLand's 1950's tv shows in HD. Give me a break.

How about NatGeo Wild in HD? Showing that only in SD is a sin. Didn't Fox/Nat Geo renew with DTV a few months ago?


Not the least bit of interest here in NGW, but TV Land is #3 (or #4 depending upon how you look at it) on my list of wants.

For the record, while I don't know what all TV Land presents in HD, much of their programming is available in HD:

  • Hot In Cleveland
  • Happily Divorced
  • The Soul Man
  • Retired At 35
  • The Exes
  • Everybody Loves Raymond
  • The King Of Queens
  • That '70s Show
  • I Love Lucy
  • The Dick Van Dyke Show


Multiple other series by them could be converted to HD.


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Posted 21 July 2012 - 04:49 PM

hi,yes why not NGW in HD,it is a good channel better than TCM.:D

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 04:56 PM

hi,yes why not NGW in HD,it is a good channel better than TCM.:D


For some. I have it in HD and never watch it.
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Posted 21 July 2012 - 04:59 PM

They could change selected SD channels to MPEG4 and give them more bandwidth and they would look pretty damned good, too.


That's what Dish did on their Eastern Arc birds, all MPEG4. Made the SD really pop. Certainly not HD, but very good and much better than D*'s SD at the moment.

That said, one thing I've noticed on BBCA on D*. Many ads seem very clean and crisp compared to the show. Very noticeable on Doctor Who.

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