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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q3-12 Thread)


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#1851 OFFLINE   inkahauts

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Posted 10 August 2012 - 01:45 PM

I think the next wave is sports. And the techies will be busy with the nfl soon. Should slow things down for a bit as they set that up and make sure it all works.


While I agree that sports (pac12 ) will likely be next, i don't think nfl st would be any reasons to speed up or slow down new channels. I think that's being determined by their encoders and upgrades there, and unfortunately, we don't know that information. All we know is they still have I believe two transponders with nothing on them, (maybe sixto can confirm if those two are still free that where emptied when they launched the first two transponders with six channels) beyond that, we don't know if they have more encoders in place to give us six channels per transponder, do we? I think that will be the driver. I am also assuming that they have rights to several more Hi Definition channels that we don't have, like some of the encores and Viacom channels, etc...

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#1852 OFFLINE   tonyd79

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Posted 10 August 2012 - 01:50 PM

While I agree that sports (pac12 ) will likely be next, i don't think nfl st would be any reasons to speed up or slow down new channels.


It is simple. Say DirecTV has five people (number is just for example purposes) working on bringing up channels and testing them. Those five people will be busy bringing the NFL channels back on line and testing them. They won't be available to work on other things.

The NFL Sunday Ticket is big, big bucks for DirecTV so they keep those five people dedicated to ensuring that the channels stay healthy. So they push back other work (like bringing on H2 or other HD) for a few weeks.

Just like worker availability and vacations around July 4 probably gave TCM a longer than usual test period...

Why do few people around here understand managing resources?
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#1853 OFFLINE   inkahauts

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Posted 10 August 2012 - 02:27 PM

It is simple. Say DirecTV has five people (number is just for example purposes) working on bringing up channels and testing them. Those five people will be busy bringing the NFL channels back on line and testing them. They won't be available to work on other things.

The NFL Sunday Ticket is big, big bucks for DirecTV so they keep those five people dedicated to ensuring that the channels stay healthy. So they push back other work (like bringing on H2 or other HD) for a few weeks.

Just like worker availability and vacations around July 4 probably gave TCM a longer than usual test period...

Why do few people around here understand managing resources?


I understand managing resources just fine. We just have different ideas of how they may have set up their crews. We could both be wrong of course, but..
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I have a feeling they have a dedicated crew for sports, and that they handle things like Sunday ticket and other sports packages. It would also make sense for them to have another crew to deal with all the other channels. The sports thing goes on year round, not just for Sunday ticket.

Oh and they don't really have to bring channels back online so much for Sunday ticket do they? I have always believed all those channels are already up in the system, and that they flip a switch to push them nationally instead of only locally in spot beams. Does anyone know if that's the case?

I have a hard time believing the fourth of July had anything to do with tmc not launching for three weeks.

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Posted 10 August 2012 - 02:32 PM

Bring on the 5 new channels
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#1855 OFFLINE   maartena

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Posted 10 August 2012 - 02:35 PM

And don't forget they do stuff every day. They are busy with all the LiL's being launched, and new channels show up in test there almost every week as well. I'm sure there is a process that needs to be documented, programmed, tested, etc.... in a sense, launching a channel becomes a project, with an assigned project manager and some people doing all the different parts of the project.

That said, they are used to this. If they need to launch more channels, they can launch more channels. The people working on these projects are also doing many many other things and aren't twiddling their thumbs when there is no channel to launch. When they do need to launch channels, they just manage their other workload by scaling it down a little.

They also work pretty much 24/7, and there are people on-site in their monitoring center 24 hours a day. I don't believe that they would not be able to launch say... 10 HD channels "just because they are busy with NFL Sunday Ticket" or something like that. They just plan things out parallel to each other. And that isn't a problem if you have good project managers. :)

In the last four weeks they have done, among others:

- Bring up, take down Golf Open Champion Ship.
- Bring up (and soon take down) Olympic Channels.
- Move NBC related channels around a bit.
- Launch, take down PGA.
- Launch 5 new HD channels in test.
- Launch a number of LiL markets in test.
- Launch a number of LiL markets from test to live.
- Bring up a fairly LARGE number of new LiL HD channel, mostly Spanish.
- Take down, and bring back up all the Viacom channels.
- Launch Disney JR in SD, launch TCM in HD.
- Prep Mike White Propaganda Channel. :D

They do SO MUCH on a daily basis, launching 2 or 5, or even 10 new CONUS HD channels is only a small percentage of their daily work load.

So no.... I don't believe that a thing like Sunday Ticket really gets in the way. That too, is really only a small percentage of their daily work load looking at all the other stuff that keeps em busy, and that is just the stuff we can SEE from the outside. So much more goes on internally, that what we see from the outside may only be a fraction of what they do. And launching Sunday Ticket is then just merely a bullet point on their long, long to-do list for the week. :D
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Posted 10 August 2012 - 02:38 PM

Ready for Doctor Who in HD
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Posted 10 August 2012 - 02:41 PM

Would love BBCA to run old Torchwood in HD
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Posted 10 August 2012 - 02:42 PM

I understand managing resources just fine. We just have different ideas of how they may have set up their crews. We could both be wrong of course, but..
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I have a feeling they have a dedicated crew for sports, and that they handle things like Sunday ticket and other sports packages. It would also make sense for them to have another crew to deal with all the other channels. The sports thing goes on year round, not just for Sunday ticket.

Oh and they don't really have to bring channels back online so much for Sunday ticket do they? I have always believed all those channels are already up in the system, and that they flip a switch to push them nationally instead of only locally in spot beams. Does anyone know if that's the case?

I have a hard time believing the fourth of July had anything to do with tmc not launching for three weeks.


All fine if you want to ignore SR actually making statements about Sunday Ticket keeping people busy.

You really think the entire stream from source to satellite to home is sitting fallow for months and months on end? That would a complete waste of resources.

And a group of people sitting around to handle the six or so channel adds a year? You just keep proving you don't know how to manage resources.
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Posted 10 August 2012 - 02:50 PM

Would love BBCA to run old Torchwood in HD


Oh yeah that would be really nice.
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Posted 10 August 2012 - 03:03 PM

I would like to suggest we take the 720p vs 1080i discussion to its own topic. It's not really related to DirecTV, nor HD channel anticipation, and completely depends on how the channel in question broadcasts.

If someone would PLEASE be so kind and create a topic in another forum - perhaps "General Satellite Discussion" - it would be much appreciated.

Thanks :)


Here is a thread I bumped to continue that discussion. :)
Another 1080p/1080i/720p discussion, pulled from D11 thread

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Posted 10 August 2012 - 03:07 PM

Oh yeah that would be really nice.


This was my 1st love of wanted BBCA in HD way back When
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Posted 10 August 2012 - 04:00 PM

Do you know that with the addition of an international dish you can get mHZ Worldview for free, with almost any basic package? It's on channel 2183 and carries newscasts from Al Jazeera, France24, Euronews and others.


It's a shame that this channel isn't on one of the 99/101/110 satellites. Most of the programming is in English and the nightly international mysteries have subtitles. I can receive it OTA on a subchannel which has poorer resolution than Directv SD (if that is possible). It's SD, so shouldn't take up much bandwidth with MPEG4 compression.

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Posted 10 August 2012 - 04:13 PM

Ready for Doctor Who in HD


Doctor Who?:)

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Posted 10 August 2012 - 04:14 PM

Doctor Who?:)


Don't anyone answer. It would mean the end of the universe!
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Posted 10 August 2012 - 04:16 PM

Don't anyone answer. It would mean the end of the universe!


Did not know that.

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Posted 10 August 2012 - 04:40 PM

to paraphrase:
He's not just a doctor... He's THE Doctor! The definite article, you might say.
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#1867 OFFLINE   bobnielsen

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Posted 10 August 2012 - 05:20 PM

Did not know that.


I not going to answer but changed my avatar, which might offer a hint.

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Posted 10 August 2012 - 05:55 PM

Whovians popup all over. And all ever.
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Posted 10 August 2012 - 06:02 PM

Never could get into Doctor Who, but love Torchwood which I saw in HD at my niece house. Will give Doctor a second look.

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Posted 10 August 2012 - 06:14 PM

I would like to suggest we take the 720p vs 1080i discussion to its own topic. It's not really related to DirecTV, nor HD channel anticipation, and completely depends on how the channel in question broadcasts.

If someone would PLEASE be so kind and create a topic in another forum - perhaps "General Satellite Discussion" - it would be much appreciated.

Thanks :)


Yes great idea! Thx
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#1871 OFFLINE   Laxguy

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Posted 10 August 2012 - 06:17 PM

Yes great idea! Thx


That was done earlier today: LINK
(Joe Spears)

Here is a thread I bumped to continue that discussion.
Another 1080p/1080i/720p discussion, pulled from D11 thread


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Posted 10 August 2012 - 06:21 PM

From twitter...@ESPN_Pac12blog: "Pac-12 Network's Gary Stevenson said he doesn't expect to have deals with satellite carriers in advance of Aug. 15 launch.
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Posted 10 August 2012 - 06:22 PM

That was done earlier today: LINK
(Joe Spears)


Yeah just saw that thx!
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Posted 10 August 2012 - 06:55 PM

I also welcome The Doctor.

I would also welcome some of the original 1960's episodes.
It's fun to watch the bad acting and camera work.
I'm sure some of the B/W episodes would look pretty good in HD.
Even if only upconverted.

The first episode "An Unearthly Child" was interesting because it shows the beginning.
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Posted 10 August 2012 - 07:11 PM

Would love BBCA to run old Torchwood in HD


I haven't checked lately but it used to be avaliable on Netflix.




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