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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q3-12 Thread)


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#1901 OFFLINE   Carl Spock

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 11:34 AM

Fail? Are these not channels that DirecTV are contracted to carry? There is no room for failure --- only a limited time to get it right before the channels are made public.

Or does DirecTV put channels on their satellite before they agree to carry them? When was the last channel DirecTV added in test that didn't go live?

Isn't DirecTV using a relatively new process that puts more channels on each transponder to give us these five new channels? Wasn't TCM HD in test for a lot longer than normal? What the poster wanted was DirecTV to announce these channels are coming. I took his post to mean putting a date on it. Why should DirecTV stick its neck out on a specific commitment if they don't have to, especially one they might not be able to keep?
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#1902 OFFLINE   tonyd79

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 11:51 AM

Isn't DirecTV using a relatively new process that puts more channels on each transponder to give us these five new channels? Wasn't TCM HD in test for a lot longer than normal? What the poster wanted was DirecTV to announce these channels are coming. I took his post to mean putting a date on it. Why should DirecTV stick its neck out on a specific commitment if they don't have to, especially one they might not be able to keep?


I think Sixto said most of these are not the sixth channel. They have rearranged things so that they used existing channels on six per transponders.
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#1903 OFFLINE   James Long

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 12:00 PM

I think Sixto said most of these are not the sixth channel. They have rearranged things so that they used existing channels on six per transponders.

BBC America, National Geographic Wild and ION are "1060" channels ... the sixth slot. The other two are "1050" channels ...

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 12:00 PM

I think Sixto said most of these are not the sixth channel. They have rearranged things so that they used existing channels on six per transponders.


Actually, from the map he posted, "most" (3 of 5), were 1060 on their transponders.

Just not "all", because of previous re-arrangements.
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Posted 11 August 2012 - 12:20 PM

Isn't Ion the channel that carries the Canadian show about the Toronto SWAT team that used to be a summer replacement on CBS? I liked that show, and if it is it will be great to get it again in hd.


Toronto SWAT...so it's a comedy?:D

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 12:21 PM

And another issue might be that they want to ensure that adding this or that particular channel on a particular transponder doesn't screw up the rest of them. One thing's for sure, when it comes to technical quality, Direct knows what it's doing.

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 12:41 PM

What about LMN, GSN, RFD, and HLN

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 12:49 PM

One thing's for sure, when it comes to technical quality, Direct knows what it's doing.


Directv has one of the best products out there, but they do have some nagging technical flaws that have been hanging around for far too long. It looks like they've finally fixed remote control responsiveness, but guide issues and audio breakups continue to plague many customers.

They've made big strides with the updates to the HD-DVR software this year, but need to address some of these problems to really be outstanding.
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Posted 11 August 2012 - 02:22 PM

What about LMN, GSN, RFD, and HLN


They still have more to go, but we are at least getting major additions. It will be quite a while before everyone is happy, if that even is possible.

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 03:03 PM

Directv has one of the best products out there, but they do have some nagging technical flaws that have been hanging around for far too long. It looks like they've finally fixed remote control responsiveness, but guide issues and audio breakups continue to plague many customers.

They've made big strides with the updates to the HD-DVR software this year, but need to address some of these problems to really be outstanding.


Wonder if they can auto switch an Internet connected receiver to the iPad streaming version of the channel (if available) during rain fade / low signal conditions?

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 04:57 PM

Pardon me if this should be something obvious in history, but what was it specifically about DIRECTV-7S?


DirecTV announced a bunch of local markets that would be going up on DirecTV 7s. The company who built the satellite went through bankruptcy, Dish Network attempted to BUY the satellite from the company, and long story short, the locals were launched, if memory serves, a year late.

Ever since then, DirecTV's kept things a lot closer to the vest. Sure, every now and then you'll see something announced prior, but usually it's not until things are ready to go.

Isn't Ion the channel that carries the Canadian show about the Toronto SWAT team that used to be a summer replacement on CBS? I liked that show, and if it is it will be great to get it again in hd.


Yes, "Flashpoint" is carried on Ion now.

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 06:06 PM

Not that anybody cares, but I wanted to update this anyway.

I've noticed recently a decrease in the PQ of my local NBC affiliate. I had every intention of posting a report about it in the LOCAL ISSUES thread, but I decided to check my OTA signal first, and I saw similar results. I've contacted my local NBC affiliate and am awaiting verification, but I think they've given more bandwidth to the ABC sub-channel as I believe it's looking sharper than it was previously.


I was told late last night that they just started using an older backup ATSC encoder while awaiting a new one ("SOON"). He stated the bitrate was the same, but due to the age of the encoder, perhaps the compression techniques are not as good/efficient.

"Grimm" starts up on Monday, but aside from that, I'm not watching NBC until next month, so hopefully it'll be up and running by then.

To tie this into DirecTV conversation, while I was aware of it before, this goes to prove to me even further what a difference newer and more efficient encoders can make.

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 06:17 PM

Not that anybody cares

What? When it comes to anything regarding HD, we care. :D

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 06:21 PM

What? When it comes to anything regarding HD, we care. :D


The "DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q3-12 Thread)" is for discussing NATIONAL HD channel anticipation.

My original statement about my local NBC affiliate was in regards to the 720p/1080i/p discussion going on.

However, I have no interest in the 720p/1080i/p thread, and the main reason I wanted to do my reply above was for two reasons... one a follow-up to my statement (that was made in this thread), and two, the bolded part about the encoder. That is always something that should be kept in mind whether it's local or national.

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 06:30 PM

It is a good point. And appropriate to the topic as we are getting more and better HD because of the technology.

And it is all the way through the stream from origination to delivery that the age of the tech makes a difference.
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Posted 11 August 2012 - 08:21 PM

From twitter....@PAC12insider: Hearing the PAC12 Network will reach a deal with DirecTV before the start of football season."
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Posted 11 August 2012 - 08:28 PM

Good chance the deal is already done but won't go into effect until football season opener.

Will be interesting to see the distribution scheme.
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Posted 12 August 2012 - 02:59 AM

Yes, "Flashpoint" is carried on Ion now.


They also just recently picked up the full series run of L&O Criminal Intent.
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Posted 12 August 2012 - 07:31 AM

I'm more old school than that...I remember my cable company back in the 80's putting on the bill IN PRINT that some new channels were coming...and then the cable guide would come in the mail with all colorful ads for said channel starting up..I mean heaven forbid anyone today factually puts something in print huh??

Test channels were channels that weren't available on the punch button 3 tier push button BROWN Jerrold cable box..you would hook up your cable line to your TV and check the cable ready channels past ch 39...mainly channels 98 & 99..so back then I WAS SIXTO telling people Manhattan Cable was getting MTV or HBO!!...I remember seeing the Disney Channel and ESPN2 once in test

and the cable ready TV's really lived up to their names in which you didn't need a cable box...technologies improved and all the basic channels got scrambled eventually then needing a box...also Manhattan used to be divided with 2 cable companies and one had HBO...the other had Showtime..so when HBO came back it was a big deal...there was also a way to rig the box so it would unscramble the channel heh heh!!

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The cable co in my area SuddenLink does announce new channels. They have a still screen that will announce new channels and they usually have it up 30 days ahead. They also print it on the bill.

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 07:43 AM

The cable co in my area SuddenLink does announce new channels. They have a still screen that will announce new channels and they usually have it up 30 days ahead. They also print it on the bill.


Often that is a requirement for their local cable franchise put upon them by the city, county, whatever that grants the license.
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