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#181 OFFLINE   mshaw2715

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 08:29 AM

It's going to have to. I think that is one reason the pac-12 network is taking so long as well and why heard rumors that it could get tossed into a 15 dollar add on package of its own. It's also why CSN NW and CSN Philly to date have yet to be added to Directv and why nothing has been said about CSN Houston yet either.

well then you better hope that sports becomes a HBO like add on as under the law you can have basic cable and add stuff like HBO.



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Posted 03 September 2012 - 10:07 AM

It's going to have to. I think that is one reason the pac-12 network is taking so long as well and why heard rumors that it could get tossed into a 15 dollar add on package of its own. It's also why CSN NW and CSN Philly to date have yet to be added to Directv and why nothing has been said about CSN Houston yet either.


I wish all sports packages would be ala carte, this way each one could get what they want.

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 12:18 PM

So am I really the only subscriber in LA paying the $2 regional sports fee? I don't wanna be the only one paying $6 extra if they pick up this channel.


Not sure,maybe it's time we expand this question to the genial forum with a poll.

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 12:20 PM

I wish all sports packages would be ala carte, this way each one could get what they want.


RSN is not a sports package though, it's a local... That's the big hang up. I'd be fine with a $2 fee for locals RSN channels, if everyone had to pay it. That could be the only price in crease for a year, everyone's RSNs now cost $2. That would be fine by me.

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 12:26 PM

So am I really the only subscriber in LA paying the $2 regional sports fee? I don't wanna be the only one paying $6 extra if they pick up this channel.


RSN is not a sports package though, it's a local... That's the big hang up. I'd be fine with a $2 fee for locals RSN channels, if everyone had to pay it. That could be the only price in crease for a year, everyone's RSNs now cost $2. That would be fine by me.


DirecTV recently raised prices in certain markets where the RSNs were more expensive...

I don't remember if it's markets with more channels than the average market, or most likely, markets in which the channels are more expensive.

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 12:35 PM

DirecTV recently raised prices in certain markets where the RSNs were more expensive...

I don't remember if it's markets with more channels than the average market, or most likely, markets in which the channels are more expensive.

EDIT: See HERE and HERE!

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Doesn't explain why some people in the same market have it, and some don't...

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 12:42 PM

Depends on what your base package is and if it has local sports channels in that package. Then it is based on the cost of those RSN's.

Doesn't explain why some people in the same market have it, and some don't...



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Posted 03 September 2012 - 12:45 PM

Doesn't explain why some people in the same market have it, and some don't...


Grandfathering?! :confused:

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 12:49 PM

Grandfathering?! :confused:

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I thought he was n a grandfathers package that was the same as mine. Maybe he's n a much older grandfathered package. The wold make sense. I hate grandfathered packages, they should get rid of them all.

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 01:12 PM

I thought he was n a grandfathers package that was the same as mine. Maybe he's n a much older grandfathered package. The wold make sense. I hate grandfathered packages, they should get rid of them all.


It's a theory... I know nothing!

There are advantages of grandfathered packages... I'm thankful to have a channel that I would have lost earlier this year had grandfathering not been in play. I hate other aspects of it though... :(

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 03:06 PM

Showtime' Nears for Time Warner Cable Sports' Lakers Networks

With less than a month to go before the tipoff of two regional sports networks centering on the Los Angeles Lakers, Time Warner Cable Sports is bolstering its content lineup, stepping up its marketing game and engaging in carriage discussions with potential affiliates.

Time Warner Cable SportsNet and Time Warner Cable Deportes, the nation's first dedicated RSN for Latinos, are slated to launch on Oct. 1, following the cable operator's February 2011 acquisition of the NBA franchise's media rights for between $3 billion to $4 billion over a 20-year span (the allocation evidently expands by another $1 billion if a five-year option is exercised). The team's games had been televised by Fox Sports West and KCAL-TV.

The RSNs will televise 70 contests of the revamped Lakers, whose lineup not only includes Kobe Bryant and Pau Gasol, but other perennial all-stars Steve Nash and Dwight Howard, as well as a host of shoulder programming around the storied NBA franchise.

"It's certainly been exciting to be a Lakers fan this summer from when free agency started around July 4 through the acquisition of Dwight [from the Orlando Magic]," said Mark Shuken, senior vice president and general manager of TWC Sports Regional Networks.

In addition, TWC SportsNet has secured rights to Major League Soccer's Galaxy, the WNBA Sparks, CIF high school football and last week scored select Mountain West Conference football and basketball action.

At presstime, TWC SportsNet, which is reportedly asking $3.95 in monthly subscriber fees for the two networks, had yet to add any affiliates beyond the nation's No. 2 cable operator. Shuken said that Time Warner Cable is the largest distributor -- with about 2 million subscribers in the RSNs' territory that extends to "Fresno to the north, Tijuana to the south, Hawaii to the west and Las Vegas to the east." All told, TWC counts about one-third of the MVPD homes in the territory's 6 million

"We're in ongoing conversations with the seven or eight potential affiliates, including DirecTV," said Shuken. Other key prospective carriers: Dish Network, Cox in Orange County, where 30% of Lakers season ticketholders live, and Las Vegas; Charter Communications in the LA suburbs; plus telcos AT&T U-verse and Verizon FiOS. "Launches have timelines and we're proceeding on the right course you would expect," he noted.

Presumably that means potential deals could be triggered around the networks' debut on Oct. 1; the Lakers' first exhibition game on Oct. 7; or the club's road opener for the 2012-13 regular season against Portland on Halloween night (The Lakers begin the pursuit of their 17th NBA crown against Dallas at the Staples Center on TNT the prior night.)

In the meantime, consumers in the RSNs' areas are about to get hit with a full-court marketing blitz. After starting in mid-July with social media activities that included the posting of videos around the Lakers, Galaxy and Sparks, TWC SportsNet began using billboards featuring Bryant on Aug. 13. The campaign's outdoor component will feature six different executions, including other stars from the respective teams, on "both static and changing boards," said Shuken.

Starting on Sept. 3, though, the push will kick into a higher gear with TV and radio ads on such high-profile sports as Los Angeles Dodgers baseball games, the National Football League and international soccer. While TWC cross-channel avails and other assets will be in play, the schedule will be "primarily paid media," according to Shuken. Although he declined to put a value on the media/marketing launch campaign, Shuken said it was "significantly greater than for any other RSN."

He noted that while there isn't a tagline per se, the messaging will focus on the "depth and access" the RSNs will bring to viewers and "the games you never miss and things about the teams you've never seen before." Shuken said there were different sensibilities involved for English-language sports fans who have been accustomed to RSNs and a "more welcoming approach for new Hispanic viewers."

To that end, Time Warner Cable Deportes will also have some different programming than its English-language cousin. It will also feature Mexican boxing and wrestling and high school football from teams in Hispanic communities, as well as dedicated daily and weekly information shows. Shuken said the network also expects to soon finalize a deal for Mexican soccer.

The Mountain West Conference content -- 12 football games and two dozen basketball games -- will not air on the Spanish-language service. Rather, TWC SportNet will become the exclusive regional home of San Diego State Aztecs, Fresno State Bulldogs and UNLV Running Rebels. The rights were acquired through a sublicensing deal with CBS Sports Network in exchange for additional carriage on Time Warner Cable systems; with the conference itself in the wake of the demise of The mtn. its regional sports network; and the schools themselves.

"Our networks will have more locally acquired and produced programming than any other RSN," said Shuken. "The Lakers, Galaxy and Sparks games and the unparalleled access to the clubs are enough, but we think we've rounded out the product well for viewers in Fresno, San Diego and Las Vegas.".


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Posted 03 September 2012 - 05:14 PM

Doesn't explain why some people in the same market have it, and some don't...


Depends on several factors. It's not market driven, but zip code driven. That is how RSNs charge the distributors. So it is possible to be in the New York DMA in one zip code where the rates for the RSNs (MSG, SNY, MSG +, etc) are lower than a different zip code in the same New York DMA.

Also depends on base package. If you have entertainment with no RSN, there will be no RSN charge for example.
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Posted 03 September 2012 - 05:36 PM

RSN is not a sports package though, it's a local... That's the big hang up. I'd be fine with a $2 fee for locals RSN channels, if everyone had to pay it. That could be the only price in crease for a year, everyone's RSNs now cost $2. That would be fine by me.


It's a local and should be optional.

Take Root Sports Northwest (owned ironically by Directv). Aside from the Mariners this channel has little content now that the Pac 12 has walked. I don't watch much baseball and I'd give this channel up in a heartbeat....but Directv crams it down our throats, like other providers on their channels. But I can't get CSN Northwest.

With the Pac 12 pulling content its a matter of time before others do the same (Lakers already did) before we need to see some consolidation in the RSNs There is way too much bandwidth being used up for part-time channels.

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 06:22 PM

It's a local and should be optional.

Take Root Sports Northwest (owned ironically by Directv). Aside from the Mariners this channel has little content now that the Pac 12 has walked. I don't watch much baseball and I'd give this channel up in a heartbeat....but Directv crams it down our throats, like other providers on their channels. But I can't get CSN Northwest.

With the Pac 12 pulling content its a matter of time before others do the same (Lakers already did) before we need to see some consolidation in the RSNs There is way too much bandwidth being used up for part-time channels.


Yeah down here in San Diego I think Fox Sports San Diego is a poorly designed and utilized channel.Right now all it shows is the Padres and maybe some Del Mar Horse races.No other programming is being shown.

Which is why I'm wondering why Directv chose to carry the channel.Them an Cox Cable down here are the only providers carrying it.AT&T U-Verse, Time Warner, and Dish Network are refusing to carry it at Fox's asking price.

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 06:51 PM

Lest we forget all those years that D* never had access to the Padres telecasts because of Cox.

Yeah down here in San Diego I think Fox Sports San Diego is a poorly designed and utilized channel.Right now all it shows is the Padres and maybe some Del Mar Horse races.No other programming is being shown.

Which is why I'm wondering why Directv chose to carry the channel.Them an Cox Cable down here are the only providers carrying it.AT&T U-Verse, Time Warner, and Dish Network are refusing to carry it at Fox's asking price.


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Posted 03 September 2012 - 06:55 PM

Well, my contract is up. Now does Directv want to keep my business? We will see.
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Posted 03 September 2012 - 07:31 PM

Well, my contract is up. Now does Directv want to keep my business? We will see.


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Posted 03 September 2012 - 07:32 PM

Yeah down here in San Diego I think Fox Sports San Diego is a poorly designed and utilized channel.Right now all it shows is the Padres and maybe some Del Mar Horse races.No other programming is being shown.

Which is why I'm wondering why Directv chose to carry the channel.Them an Cox Cable down here are the only providers carrying it.AT&T U-Verse, Time Warner, and Dish Network are refusing to carry it at Fox's asking price.


they have it as a sub feed and maybe in a few years prime ticket may go away or fold down to a part time over flow of FS west.
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Posted 03 September 2012 - 09:13 PM

Think of it this way. CSN Philadelphia is available if Directv wants to add it. Problem is the station is priced so high Directv can't add it without passing the entire cost on to the customer. TWCS LA is priced in the same way. They would have to add a 4 to 5 dollar charge to everone inside that networks tv territory to cover the cost of a station that is way over priced at this time. They have no way to absorb that large of a fee without passing it completely on. Then they would make people mad who don't want it when they see a charge on their bill for it that they can't get rid of without going down to the entertainment package. As long as it is priced at a premium price, they won't add it. I have no doubt that Time Warner has been eying something like this for awhile ever since they took over Adelphia's LA territory. Unless ala carte happens, I would expect a person to need two if not every provider in their area to get every station they want. It's possible even then you wouldn't get everything you want. The days of one provider with everything are gone.


Directv home base is Southern Cal. The channel(s) will be up and running, and yes the cost will be passed on, but will be barely noticed. If anything people (like me) will think the increase next January is for the Viacom channels...

Can you imagine working or Directv in El Segundo, but subbing to TWC for the Laker games?? Never gonna happen!

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 09:17 PM

That is exactly what Time Warner wants to happen and as of now will happen unless something gives.

Directv home base is Southern Cal. The channel(s) will be up and running, and yes the cost will be passed on, but will be barely noticed. If anything people (like me) will think the increase next January is for the Viacom channels...

Can you imagine working or Directv in El Segundo, but subbing to TWC for the Laker games?? Never gonna happen!






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