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#301 OFFLINE   kb24sd

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Posted 16 September 2012 - 10:28 PM

Lets just hope the D* subscribers wait it out.


I'm not.

I already have an appointment for TWC to install service on 9-29.

After I pay my D* bill on 9-25 service will be SUSPENDED on 9-29.

Won't come back to D* until they have an agreement to carry these channels.

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#302 OFFLINE   kb24sd

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 04:56 PM

Went into to my local TWC office today which is less than 3 miles from my house.Confirmed my appointment for 9-29.

Only costing me $47 for 1 month for 1 HD box.No contract.Did not have to pay a installation fee and didn't have to put a deposit down.

My D* bill is about to go up next month if I don't cancel HBO, Cinemax, Starz, Showtime, Encore and the HD extra pack.The 3 month free trial period is about to end.

I will call in on 9-26 and remove all of those services and also the Filipino channel which is another $25 a month since my Mom is currently in the Philippines.

Then D* service gets suspended on 9-29.

So yup D* is losing a lot of business from me because of this situation.

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 07:19 PM

Went into to my local TWC office today which is less than 3 miles from my house.Confirmed my appointment for 9-29.

Only costing me $47 for 1 month for 1 HD box.No contract.Did not have to pay a installation fee and didn't have to put a deposit down.

My D* bill is about to go up next month if I don't cancel HBO, Cinemax, Starz, Showtime, Encore and the HD extra pack.The 3 month free trial period is about to end.

I will call in on 9-26 and remove all of those services and also the Filipino channel which is another $25 a month since my Mom is currently in the Philippines.

Then D* service gets suspended on 9-29.

So yup D* is losing a lot of business from me because of this situation.


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Posted 17 September 2012 - 07:41 PM

I have TWC for Internet. I can say that I am very pleased with their service and I never paid full price for service during the entire 6 years I have been with them. Every time my promotional offer is up, they always give me another deal. Now I have RoadRunner Ultimate (50/5) for only $40/month for 2 years.

I have also never paid full price for DirecTV service the whole 10 years I have been with them. I am currently getting $30/month off my bill for 2 years.

TWC always call and ask if I would be interested in their TV and/or phone service. I tell them I have Ooma and pay $0/month and I have DirecTV and am very happy. If I ever lose my promotional deals with DirecTV and TWC can match everything I have with DirecTV for less money, then I may consider them.

TWC is not that bad.

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 07:48 PM

What I don't understand are all the threats and claims of it already being a "situation." The channel hasn't even launched yet! Folks are reacting as if DirecTV has declined an offer to carry it.

The ONLY provider set to offer this channel happens to own it. Haha

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 08:07 PM

What I don't understand are all the threats and claims of it already being a "situation." The channel hasn't even launched yet! Folks are reacting as if DirecTV has declined an offer to carry it.

The ONLY provider set to offer this channel happens to own it. Haha

Ture, but all of the cable companys had contracts in place before the Pac 12 Network launched. No reason why you can't have a contract in place before the channel launches, to make sure all of your ducks are in a row so that you can flip the switch when the channel goes live.

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 08:10 PM

Ture, but all of the cable companys had contracts in place before the Pac 12 Network launched. No reason why you can't have a contract in place before the channel launches, to make sure all of your ducks are in a row so that you can flip the switch when the channel goes live.


Well, that's on TWC. They haven't managed to ink a single deal.

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 08:34 PM

Iwantmylakers.com is being advertised by TWC. Saw add on KCBS (ch. 391 or ch. 2) last night.

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 08:36 PM

Well, that's on TWC. They haven't managed to ink a single deal.


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Posted 17 September 2012 - 08:42 PM

None?


From what I have been able to find, yes. Not a single deal. TWC doesn't count obviously, since they own the channel.

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 08:48 PM

From what I have been able to find, yes. Not a single deal. TWC doesn't count obviously, since they own the channel.


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Posted 17 September 2012 - 08:52 PM

Wow.


They seem to be perfectly fine with that as well. While the PAC-12 was overjoyed at having signed so many deals so early, TWC appears to believe it will put pressure on these other providers. I for one think it will just put pressure on TWC. The Lakers are counting on them to perform and come through will solid distribution.

Now these other providers cannot work together to turn the screws on TWC, but they have to be aware that there will be a power shift once the season starts.

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 07:46 AM

Well, that's on TWC. They haven't managed to ink a single deal.


They control 80% of the Lakers DMA in cable service.... They aren't in any hurry. (Then there is 10% Cox in south OC and parts of San Diego, and some Charter in Long Beach and other areas. Hawaii is TWC, much of the Desert is TWC, Las vegas is Cox)

U-Verse, FIOS, Dish and DirecTV are direct competitors. I see them inking deals with Charter and Cox as they aren't direct competitors, and that makes it harder still for the other ones to get a deal.

See the PAC12 situation.
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 10:38 AM

They seem to be perfectly fine with that as well. While the PAC-12 was overjoyed at having signed so many deals so early, TWC appears to believe it will put pressure on these other providers. I for one think it will just put pressure on TWC. The Lakers are counting on them to perform and come through will solid distribution.

Now these other providers cannot work together to turn the screws on TWC, but they have to be aware that there will be a power shift once the season starts.


Given the way Comcast and Cablevision have thumbed their noses, diddled, and delayed --for years-- in similar situations, I wouldn't count on it. The Lakers will pay lip service, express sorrow for those who can't get TWC for whatever reason. . . and cash the checks.

Maybe not. Maybe TWC will play it straight. I just wouldn't count on it going that way.
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 12:49 AM

Lakers' switch to Time Warner could leave some in dark

Sep 15, 2012 (Menafn - Ventura County Star - McClatchy-Tribune Information Services via COMTEX) --The Los Angeles Lakers have made some big moves this offseason. They've brought in Steve Nash. They've brought in Dwight Howard. But the biggest move they made has nothing to do with players and it's the move that might affect you most of all.

It has to do with whether you'll be able to watch the Lakers on TV or not. And as things stand right now, unless you subscribe to Time Warner Cable, you'll scarcely be able to see them at all.

The Lakers will no longer be on KCAL (Channel 9) or Fox Sports West. A year ago, they signed a 20-year, 4 billion contract (or 5 billion if an additional five-year option is exercised) to move their games to two new regional sports channels: Time Warner Cable SportsNet and the Spanish-language Time Warner Cable Deportes. The networks are set to launch Oct. 1.

The Lakers' first preseason game is Oct. 7. Time Warner Cable SportsNet will show 70 of the Lakers' 82 regular-season games, starting Oct. 31. The remaining 12 are nationally televised.

Time Warner and the Lakers have launched a website -- www.iwantmylakers.com -- so fans can see if their cable or satellite provider plans to carry the new channels. But the networks don't have a deal with any other provider yet.

That means, at this moment, if you're on DirecTV, Dish Network, Verizon FiOS, AT&T U-Verse, Charter Communications or any other system, you're out of luck. On the bright side, Time Warner is the biggest cable provider in the Southern California/Hawaii region, with 2 million subscribers.

"We're in negotiations with all of our pay television provider partners," said Mark Shuken, Time Warner SportsNet's executive vice president and general manager. "That includes Dish Network and DirecTV and the telephone companies; that includes all of the cable providers in our territories. ... We are negotiating with them now. We're optimistic we're going to reach agreements with all of them."

The Lakers, meanwhile, are not all that worried about a possible backlash from fans.

"We have concerns about this, but we're not overly concerned," Lakers spokesman John Black said. "One good thing, if you can phrase it that way, about the fans' concern is that it shows how much they care about the Lakers.

"As for Time Warner getting the distribution deals done, they've advised us from the start that situations like this typically go down to the wire, so it's not something unexpected by us. ... We have full confidence in them that they will get the distribution done and that eventually, the service they provide to Lakers fans will be the best ever, and worth the growing pains we're going through at this time."

DirecTV spokesman Robert G. Mercer acknowledged his company is involved in talks, but said it may take some time.

"We're in discussions with TWC SportsNet, but have not yet reached an agreement," Mercer said in an email. "We expect to have an update closer to the start of the NBA season next month."


The two networks are being negotiated as a package and would not be offered a la carte.

"We don't think that's appropriate," Shuken said. "We don't think that sends the right message to the Latino and Hispanic customer. Frankly, though, we believe the distributor partners we're talking to also understand that."

Time Warner believes the cable and satellite systems will eventually sign up, given the excitement around this season's Lakers team. SportsBusiness Daily reported the providers will be charged 3.95 per subscriber per month to take the channels. To put that in perspective, ESPN gets 5.13 for each of its 100 million subscribers nationally, according to Bloomberg Businessweek. The industry average for a national channel is 20 cents per subscriber per month.

Time Warner Cable SportsNet figures to offer even more for the TV rights to the Dodgers when their contracts with KCAL and Fox's Prime Ticket expire after next season.

Shuken said he had no information on how the new channels might affect cable bills for Time Warner customers or those of other systems. Time Warner Cable SportsNet and Deportes will be placed on Time Warner's expanded basic cable package.

Time Warner also has deals with Major League Soccer's L.A. Galaxy and with the Sparks of the Women's National Basketball Association. It also recently said it plans to show selected football and basketball games involving San Diego State, the University of Nevada Las Vegas and Fresno State University. CIF high school playoffs figure to appear, too.

Shuken said an announcement about "another collegiate relationship" would be coming soon and that the networks are interested in acquiring other rights, as well.

Lakers fans indeed can expect negotiations to go right down to the last minute -- and beyond. And, since most of October will be taken up by preseason games, many deals may not close until right before the National Basketball Association season starts, if then.

Time Warner is no stranger to these kinds of negotiations and can be quite tough. It has steadfastly refused to carry NFL Network on its systems since it launched in 2003 and is now the only major provider in the nation that doesn't have it.

Now, ironically, Time Warner is in the position of trying to get other cable systems to carry its networks.


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Posted 19 September 2012 - 05:10 AM

Dude, shouting with extra large bold type isn't going to change the situation.

When you call on the 29th to cancel Directv, they'll get your message, and if enough other Lakers fans do the same, it might change Directv's position. But for now, they haven't found a deal that's acceptable to them. Just remember, Directv has to get a deal that works for the company and all it's customers, not just you.
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 05:52 AM

The Lakers, meanwhile, are not all that worried about a possible backlash from fans.

"We have concerns about this, but we're not overly concerned," Lakers spokesman John Black said. "One good thing, if you can phrase it that way, about the fans' concern is that it shows how much they care about the Lakers.

"Yeah but we really don't care if the fans watch us or not, the money TWC is paying us is already in the bank". :rolleyes:

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 05:54 AM

Be wary of Mr. mercer's comments. Same coMment as PAC 12...we will have an update at the end of the month. It is a lie plain and simple.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 06:11 AM

Be wary of Mr. mercer's comments. Same coMment as PAC 12...we will have an update at the end of the month. It is a lie plain and simple.


Proof? You should provide some when accusing someone of being a liar.
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 06:34 AM

He is right. They use this tactic anytime a station is about launch and they don't like the terms they are being offered and are hoping the terms change before launch. Pac 12 network is all the proof you need. They kept saying they would have an update closer to school starting.

Proof? You should provide some when accusing someone of being a liar.



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Posted 19 September 2012 - 06:43 AM

Is the $3.95 per subscriber accurate? That seems extremely high. I honestly can't imagine any satellite or cable distributor paying that much. Or is that figure the norm when it comes to RSN's? ESPN is about a dollar more per subscriber but they have boatloads of programming.
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 06:44 AM

He is right. They use this tactic anytime a station is about launch and they don't like the terms they are being offered and are hoping the terms change before launch. Pac 12 network is all the proof you need. They kept saying they would have an update closer to school starting.


...yes and releasing another statement saying that they have still not reached a deal is still an update. That is exactly what happened with PAC-12. Providing an update is providing an update, not indicating a change has occurred. Neither side can promise that a deal will be reached. They can only continue to work towards one. The same goes for every single provider in the country, as no one has a deal to carry this channel.
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 07:01 AM

The two networks are being negotiated as a package and would not be offered a la carte.

"We don't think that's appropriate," Shuken said. "We don't think that sends the right message to the Latino and Hispanic customer. Frankly, though, we believe the distributor partners we're talking to also understand that."

That might be the sticking point in the negotiations. I can see TWC demanding that DirecTV take both the English and Spanish channels, but DirecTV should be able to offer the channels in different packages. The Spanish language channel should be on the 119 bird in the package with the other Spanish channels, and the Engilsh channel should be on the 103 and in Choice or above in the Lakers territory, and in the Sports pack for everyone else (although those outside of the Lakers territory would have to have NBA League Pass to actually see any of the games).

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 02:59 PM

Time Warner Cable SportsNet Debuts Studio Programming Lineup

Network will feature live Lakers programming seven days a week starting October 1, delivering behind-the-scenes access, expert analysis and more

Daily studio show “Access SportsNet” is the network’s signature program; social media-driven “#LakeShow” will begin the Lakers conversation on Time Warner Cable SportsNet each day

El Segundo, CA (September 19, 2012) – Time Warner Cable SportsNet announced today details about its October studio programming. The network will provide fans with dedicated live Lakers programming seven days a week and feature a comprehensive schedule of Lakers and Galaxy content when it launches on October 1. “Access SportsNet,” the network’s signature daily studio show, will encompass Lakers pre- and post-game shows as “Access SportsNet: Lakers” and LA Galaxy pre- and post-game shows as “Access SportsNet: Galaxy.” Additionally, “#LakeShow” will be the network’s daily live social media-driven show.

“Lakers fans want content about and access to their team seven days a week and we’re going to provide that with “Access SportsNet” and “#LakeShow,” said Mark Shuken, Senior Vice President and General Manager, TWC Sports Regional Networks. “We’ve created a lineup that gives fans a voice, speaks directly to them and takes them behind-the-curtain as their favorite team kicks off what’s sure to be a historic season.”

“Access SportsNet” will air live every day on Time Warner Cable SportsNet. The one-hour studio program will begin at 7:00* p.m. and deliver comprehensive coverage of the Lakers, LA Galaxy and LA Sparks. It will highlight the network’s signature behind-the-scenes access and provide Lakers, Galaxy and Sparks fans with the latest information, updates and team features. A second live “Access SportsNet” will air at 10:00 p.m.

Live Lakers coverage on Time Warner Cable SportsNet will begin each day with “#LakeShow” (read “LakeShow”), an interactive studio program highlighting of-the-moment conversations about the Lakers and fan-driven social media interaction and engagement. “#LakeShow” will air 90 minutes prior to tip-off on game days and at 6:30 p.m. on all other days and run all Lakers season long.

Following “#LakeShow” on Lakers game days, “Access SportsNet: Lakers” will begin live from the studio 60 minutes prior to tipoff. Starting with the Lakers’ first pre-season game on October 7 and first regular season game on October 30, the one-hour pre-game show will cover every angle leading into the game and feature opinions, expert analysis and debate. Following the game, the “Access SportsNet: Lakers” post-game show will provide extensive game highlights, locker room sound, in-depth interviews with players and coaches and a breakdown of the game. As a sign of Time Warner Cable SportsNet’s unprecedented commitment to the Lakers, “Access SportsNet: Lakers” will air for all Laker games including national broadcasts.

On October 21, Time Warner Cable SportsNet will telecast the network’s inaugural LA Galaxy match at the San Jose Earthquakes. “Access SportsNet: Galaxy” will air 60 minutes prior to kickoff as well as after the game, giving fans in-depth analysis, highlights and more.

Other Lakers programming on Time Warner Cable SportsNet will include classic Lakers games, “Encore+” and “Lakers Compacto.” A collection of classic Lakers games that span the history of the storied franchise will air on the network and “Encore+” will be re-telecasts of this season’s Lakers games enhanced with social media interaction. “Lakers Compacto” will consist of Lakers games condensed into a fast-paced, one-hour format. It will feature added sights, sounds, reaction and commentary that weren’t part of the original game telecast. This concept is shared by Time Warner Cable SportsNet and its sister network Time Warner Cable Deportes.

Additional Lakers-related Time Warner Cable SportsNet programming will be announced in the coming weeks.

Time Warner Cable SportsNet and Time Warner Cable Deportes can be found in HD on channel 403 and 481, respectively, on Time Warner Cable systems. Negotiations with other providers to carry the networks are ongoing but have not yet concluded. For more information about Time Warner Cable SportsNet, visit www.twcsportsnet.com; to find out if your provider will be carrying the networks starting October 1, visit www.iwantmylakers.com.



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More proof that the channels aren't just a part time channel like how Fox Sports San Diego is or just a "Laker channel" only.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 03:02 PM

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More proof that the channels aren't just a part time channel like how Fox Sports San Diego is or just a "Laker channel" only.


We already knew that. They are also expected to make a play for the Dodgers broadcast rights when they come up as well. Now they just need to sign some retrans deals with other providers.




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