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#261 OFFLINE   kb24sd

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 02:01 AM

Very interesting discussion by LA sports media people who have subscribed to Directv since the mid 90's.John Ireland also works for the Lakers and does the radio play by play.

At the 13:50 mark of the interview a Directv employee calls in.At the 19:11 mark a TWC employee calls into the radio show.



Come October 1st if Directv does not have the channel they are going to lose my business and a bunch of Laker fans business who are in the Lakers DMA area who have Time Warner Cable available in their area.

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#262 OFFLINE   kb24sd

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 02:08 AM

Well, on Mason/Ireland show on KSPN they devoted about half the show to DIRECTV and how they will switch to TWC if we don't have a resolution for the Lakers and the Big 12 network (which starts tomorrow with UCLA). That sounds great....however, i'm not rich like those two guys and just can't walk away (in my case DirecTV) and go back to TWC. I'm only in my first few months of my contract and i don't have money to throw away. I love DirecTV and plan on keeping it. But i'll be damned if they don't do something, and something soon.


Once again the power that you have as a customer is to suspend your Directv account for up to 6 months without having to pay the bill.Get TWC installed.Until Directv gets their **** together.This will also give you time to save money to pay the ETF fee if worse comes to worse and you have to cancel Directv because they can't come to an agreement to carry this channel.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 02:54 AM

Once again the power that you have as a customer is to suspend your Directv account for up to 6 months without having to pay the bill.Get TWC installed.Until Directv gets their **** together.This will also give you time to save money to pay the ETF fee if worse comes to worse and you have to cancel Directv because they can't come to an agreement to carry this channel.


Why would i suspend? TWC was charging me $140 a month, now, with all my discounts i'm paying $47 per month for 1 year and $67 for the second. I still have TWC Internet, but as i found out, i was getting ripped off on cable.
With DIRECTV i get about 125 stations in high def, AND, free Sunday Ticket MAX for this season. I'm getting more for less. If they don't come to an agreement, which i think they will, then i will live with it and watch the Lakers on TNT, ESPN, etc.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 06:12 AM

Once again the power that you have as a customer is to suspend your Directv account for up to 6 months without having to pay the bill.Get TWC installed.Until Directv gets their **** together.This will also give you time to save money to pay the ETF fee if worse comes to worse and you have to cancel Directv because they can't come to an agreement to carry this channel.


Get their what together? For not yet carrying a channel that hasn't even launched?
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Posted 15 September 2012 - 08:00 AM

Very interesting discussion by LA sports media people who have subscribed to Directv since the mid 90's.John Ireland also works for the Lakers and does the radio play by play.

At the 13:50 mark of the interview a Directv employee calls in.At the 19:11 mark a TWC employee calls into the radio show.



Come October 1st if Directv does not have the channel they are going to lose my business and a bunch of Laker fans business who are in the Lakers DMA area who have Time Warner Cable available in their area.

What are you missing anyway? Just about every Lakers game is also on TNT. Seems like every time they had a game on FSN, it was also on TNT.

Trust me when I say a deal will be reached before the start of the season.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 08:05 AM

What are you missing anyway? Just about every Lakers game is also on TNT. Seems like every time they had a game on FSN, it was also on TNT.
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That's not true. About 20 something are on national channels; 29 of 82 this coming season.
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Posted 15 September 2012 - 01:25 PM

What are you missing anyway? Just about every Lakers game is also on TNT. Seems like every time they had a game on FSN, it was also on TNT.

Trust me when I say a deal will be reached before the start of the season.


8 pre season games. Media say coverage and other exclusive team coverage all which starts on October 1st.

29 out of 82 regular season games are on National TV. That leaves 53 games out if Directv does not get this channel.

You like a bunch of other people on this thread sound like just a casual basketball fan.

Others like me are the hardcore Laker fans who don't want to miss any games.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 01:59 PM

8 pre season games. Media say coverage and other exclusive team coverage all which starts on October 1st.

29 out of 82 regular season games are on National TV. That leaves 53 games out if Directv does not get this channel.

You like a bunch of other people on this thread sound like just a casual basketball fan.

Others like me are the hardcore Laker fans who don't want to miss any games.


And I don't think we can get all 29. They usually black out the national games that are on nbatv in the home markets so they don't undercut the local channel. I need to count what channels the games are on for national broadcast.

I need either charter or DirecTV to pick up the channel or I'm completely screwed.

I have said it before though, the lakers channel is far more important than the pac12 channel to DirecTV I think.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 02:03 PM

8 pre season games. Media say coverage and other exclusive team coverage all which starts on October 1st.

29 out of 82 regular season games are on National TV. That leaves 53 games out if Directv does not get this channel.

You like a bunch of other people on this thread sound like just a casual basketball fan.

Others like me are the hardcore Laker fans who don't want to miss any games.


I'm a "hardcore" Lakers fan too;

Have been since the mid-70's. But if what that TWC employee who called in to the Mason & Ireland show you linked to earlier claims is in any way true, I really can't blame DIRECTV for holding their ground here.

As he admitted the word around there was if "we" (TWC) do get a deal with DIRECTV we'll come away with an "arm and a leg." Since DIRECTV is our chief competitor for customers and "we" (again TWC) have no real incentive to come to a deal with them as opposed to other CATV companies who's franchises we can't cover anyhow.

I mean FWIW coming from a sole employee with alleged inside info., but interesting that he admits the strategy of TWC attempting to use their exclusive broadcast rights to the Lakers as leverage to try steal customers away from the satellite providers, in particular DIRECTV or otherwise fleece them if they make a deal.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 02:08 PM

... I need to count what channels the games are on for national broadcast.
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25 are non NBATV...meaning ESPN, TNT, or ABC.
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Posted 15 September 2012 - 03:18 PM

I'm a "hardcore" Lakers fan too;

Have been since the mid-70's. But if what that TWC employee who called in to the Mason & Ireland show you linked to earlier claims is in any way true, I really can't blame DIRECTV for holding their ground here.

As he admitted the word around there was if "we" (TWC) do get a deal with DIRECTV we'll come away with an "arm and a leg." Since DIRECTV is our chief competitor for customers and "we" (again TWC) have no real incentive to come to a deal with them as opposed to other CATV companies who's franchises we can't cover anyhow.

I mean FWIW coming from a sole employee with alleged inside info., but interesting that he admits the strategy of TWC attempting to use their exclusive broadcast rights to the Lakers as leverage to try steal customers away from the satellite providers, in particular DIRECTV or otherwise fleece them if they make a deal.


I understand but Laker fans who have D* right now and have TWC available in their area will switch & leave D* if come late October no deal has been made.

D* seems intent to wait until the last possible minute which would be 11-4 when that's the first Laker game not on national TV.

D* knows how important this channel is and according to that D* employee who called in says that this is their #1 priority right now.

D* knows they are going to bleed and lose a bunch of customers the longer they hold out leading up to the regular season.Especially if TWC first reaches agreements with other Cable companies and IPTV providers like Verizon Fios & AT&T U-Verse which are readily available in a lot of the Lakers DMA coverage area.

Also keep in mind that the LA & Socal regions is the biggest customer base for D* in the US.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 03:36 PM

I understand but Laker fans who have D* right and have TWC available in their area will switch & leave D* if come late October no deal has been made.

D* seems intent to wait until the last possible minute which would be 11-4 when that's the first Laker game not on national TV.

D* knows how important this channel is and according to that D* employee who called in says that this is their #1 priority right now.

D* knows they are going to bleed and lose a bunch of customers the longer they hold out leading up to the regular season.Especially if TWC reaches agreement with other Cable companies and IPTV providers like Verizon Fios & AT&T U-Verse which are readily available in a lot of the Lakers DMA coverage area.

Also keep in mind that the LA & Socal regions is the biggest customer base for D* in the US.


Your assumptions are based on your wants not reality. There will be some customers who care more about basketball than other sports, but at the end of the day there are more baseball, college, and football fans than Lakers fans. So some will be willing to switch but other's won't.

TWC wants this to be like Comcast in Philly. That's their goal and so far DIRECTV has done fine without sports in Philly.

Hopefully a deal will get done but not at the expense of the majority of people who don't care about the Lakers.
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Posted 15 September 2012 - 03:58 PM

Your assumptions are based on your wants not reality. There will be some customers who care more about basketball than other sports, but at the end of the day there are more baseball, college, and football fans than Lakers fans. So some will be willing to switch but other's won't.

TWC wants this to be like Comcast in Philly. That's their goal and so far DIRECTV has done fine without sports in Philly.

Hopefully a deal will get done but not at the expense of the majority of people who don't care about the Lakers.

how much pull do the Lakers have?? and what about NON TWC areas that in the Lakers zone?
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Posted 15 September 2012 - 04:00 PM

TWC wants this to be like Comcast in Philly. That's their goal and so far DIRECTV has done fine without sports in Philly.

You can't compare the CSN Philly situation to the Laker situation, D* never had Philly sports to begin with so there was nothing lost there. D* had the Lakers, and if you don't get a deal done you will lose a very large chunk of subscribers.

But then again I partially blame the Lakers for this too, its obvious they were going after the cash cow.

how much pull do the Lakers have?? and what about NON TWC areas that in the Lakers zone?

I'd say none. Look what happened in Portland.

When are these teams going to wake up and smell the coffee? The Yankees, Red Sox and Bruins did it right, they actually own the networks their games are shown on.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 05:56 PM

That's not true. About 20 something are on national channels; 29 of 82 this coming season.

That is my point. How many other teams, besides the Yankees, have over 1/3 of their games on national broadcasts? How many other teams allow you to view those national games within your local area? The Lakers are the only team in all sports that has over 30% of their games broadcasts nationally and not blacked out within the local region.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 06:06 PM

That is my point. How many other teams, besides the Yankees, have over 1/3 of their games on national broadcasts? How many other teams allow you to view those national games within your local area? The Lakers are the only team in all sports that has over 30% of their games broadcasts nationally and not blacked out within the local region.

Wrong again. ;)
Actually, the Heat, Thunder and Knicks each are on 25 times. I miscounted earlier; the Lakers only had 24.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 07:06 PM

I'm a "hardcore" Lakers fan too;

Have been since the mid-70's. But if what that TWC employee who called in to the Mason & Ireland show you linked to earlier claims is in any way true, I really can't blame DIRECTV for holding their ground here.

As he admitted the word around there was if "we" (TWC) do get a deal with DIRECTV we'll come away with an "arm and a leg." Since DIRECTV is our chief competitor for customers and "we" (again TWC) have no real incentive to come to a deal with them as opposed to other CATV companies who's franchises we can't cover anyhow.

I mean FWIW coming from a sole employee with alleged inside info., but interesting that he admits the strategy of TWC attempting to use their exclusive broadcast rights to the Lakers as leverage to try steal customers away from the satellite providers, in particular DIRECTV or otherwise fleece them if they make a deal.


I still call bs on that. I think that was just his opinion and not any real fact from anyone making a decision. Twc need full distribution of this channel to make money. Unless they get every other provider, they need DIRECTV.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 07:08 PM

25 are non NBATV...meaning ESPN, TNT, or ABC.


Espn will be interesting too though. Espn has never had exclusive broadcasts, but will they black it out if we can't get it via our local? Hopefully we will never know... TNT and ABC are the only ones that have exclusive games, so they are the only ones we can know for sure won't be blacked out.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 07:13 PM

That is my point. How many other teams, besides the Yankees, have over 1/3 of their games on national broadcasts? How many other teams allow you to view those national games within your local area? The Lakers are the only team in all sports that has over 30% of their games broadcasts nationally and not blacked out within the local region.


The only time they are national and local for the same game is when they are on espn.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 07:17 PM

how much pull do the Lakers have?? and what about NON TWC areas that in the Lakers zone?


You mean pull of customers or pull in twc making deals?

I think the kicker here is the pac12. I have no doubt the Lakers will cause DIRECTV to lose plenty of customers if they don't pick up the channel in any way, but if they don't get either the lakers or the pac12 then they will definitely see a large loss of subs in the california market as a whole.




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