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#341 OFFLINE   Hoosier205

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 09:41 PM

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If that price about Fox Sports San Diego is true and if that is what Directv is being charged to have it on D*.Then it's just flat out stupid that D* are willing to charge us D* customers $5 a month for Fox Sports San Diego when the channel is a part time channel.Yet D* intends to hold out is not willing to pay $3.95 or more for these two new Laker RSN channel which will be full time 24/7 channels and has more programming and other sports and local teams :mad:


You keep claiming that DirecTV is holding out, yet the channels haven't even launched and there isn't a single provider who has signed a retrans deal.
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#342 OFFLINE   kb24sd

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 09:53 PM

You keep claiming that DirecTV is holding out, yet the channels haven't even launched and there isn't a single provider who has signed a retrans deal.


Listen we are 12 days away from when the channel is launching and all indications & signs are pointing to D* holding out and not having it by October 1st.A lot of us know and have seen how D* handles these situations.Look what's going on with the Pac 12 Network.Look what happened during the Viacom situation where people lost the channels for about a week.

Are you really in denial that nasty negotiations and a hold out isn't going to happen over this between D* and Time Warner?

Like others have stated in this thread that D* could have reached an agreement with Time Warner before the new RSN is set to launch.Same goes for the Pac 12 networks.

My gripe is how can D* justify in agreeing to carry Fox Sports San Diego at a $5 per customer price tag and yet hold out on the Lakers new RSN channels when the Lakers RSN channels will have more programming, more pro & college sports coverage and is a full time 24/7 channel. When on the other hand FSN San Diego is a part time channel.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 10:02 PM

Listen we are 12 days away from when the channel is launching and all indications & signs are pointing to D* holding out and not having it by October 1st.A lot of us know and have seen how D* handles these situations.Look what's going on with the Pac 12 Network.Look what happened during the Viacom situation where people lost the channels for about a week.

Are you really in denial that nasty negotiations and a hold out isn't going to happen over this between D* and Time Warner?

Like others have stated in this thread that D* could have reached an agreement with Time Warner before the new RSN is set to launch.Same goes for the Pac 12 networks.

My gripe is how can D* justify in agreeing to carry Fox Sports San Diego at a $5 per customer price tag and yet hold out on the Lakers new RSN channels when the Lakers RSN channels will have more programming, more pro & college sports coverage and is a full time 24/7 channel. When on the other hand FSN San Diego is a part time channel.


DirecTV actually has a very solid record of getting a ton of retrans agreements done each year without there ever being a public dispute. There are occasional exceptions to that. It's Dish who is notorious for numerous nasty, lengthy battles.

Regardless, no one has a deal for these channels. No one. That's a failure by TWC.

That $5.00 rate is a rumor and in regards to an entirely different provider, not a deal with DirecTV.
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 10:08 PM

DirecTV actually has a very solid record of getting a ton of retrans agreements done each year without there ever being a public dispute. There are occasional exceptions to that. It's Dish who is notorious for numerous nasty, lengthy battles.

Regardless, no one has a deal for these channels. No one. That's a failure by TWC.

That $5.00 rate is a rumor and in regards to an entirely different provider, not a deal with DirecTV.


Both FSN San Diego and Time Warner SportsNet fall under the RSN' category and D* made a deal to be one of the providers to have it.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 10:12 PM

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http://www.latimes.c...0,7090219.story

If that price about Fox Sports San Diego is true and if that is what Directv is being charged to have it on D*.Then it's just flat out stupid that D* are willing to charge us D* customers $5 a month for Fox Sports San Diego when the channel is a part time channel.Yet D* intends to hold out is not willing to pay $3.95 or more for these two new Laker RSN channel which will be full time 24/7 channels and has more programming and other sports and local teams :mad:


You realize the part your missing on that is that DirecTV signed a massive contract with FOX for all their stations last year. I doubt they are paying that much for the channel, especially since they are only caring it part time and most it's programing was already online with prime ticket. Really not good to compare the two to much...

But it is funny what they are evidently asking twc to pay for the channel!

Again, goes to show, assuming that's right, that twc probably was in the Lakers to keep from having to pay such ridiculous prices... Wait till they go after the Dodgers...

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 10:13 PM

Listen we are 12 days away from when the channel is launching and all indications & signs are pointing to D* holding out and not having it by October 1st.A lot of us know and have seen how D* handles these situations.Look what's going on with the Pac 12 Network.Look what happened during the Viacom situation where people lost the channels for about a week.

Are you really in denial that nasty negotiations and a hold out isn't going to happen over this between D* and Time Warner?

Like others have stated in this thread that D* could have reached an agreement with Time Warner before the new RSN is set to launch.Same goes for the Pac 12 networks.

My gripe is how can D* justify in agreeing to carry Fox Sports San Diego at a $5 per customer price tag and yet hold out on the Lakers new RSN channels when the Lakers RSN channels will have more programming, more pro & college sports coverage and is a full time 24/7 channel. When on the other hand FSN San Diego is a part time channel.


Are they really paying $5 per customer for FS SD or are they getting it as part of the cost of FS west and prime ticket?
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 10:14 PM

Both FSN San Diego and Time Warner SportsNet fall under the RSN' category and D* made a deal to be one of the providers to have it.


And? They have their own deal. DirecTV has been carrying it since March and negotiated their own terms.
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 10:15 PM

Listen we are 12 days away from when the channel is launching and all indications & signs are pointing to D* holding out and not having it by October 1st.A lot of us know and have seen how D* handles these situations.Look what's going on with the Pac 12 Network.Look what happened during the Viacom situation where people lost the channels for about a week.

Are you really in denial that nasty negotiations and a hold out isn't going to happen over this between D* and Time Warner?

Like others have stated in this thread that D* could have reached an agreement with Time Warner before the new RSN is set to launch.Same goes for the Pac 12 networks.

My gripe is how can D* justify in agreeing to carry Fox Sports San Diego at a $5 per customer price tag and yet hold out on the Lakers new RSN channels when the Lakers RSN channels will have more programming, more pro & college sports coverage and is a full time 24/7 channel. When on the other hand FSN San Diego is a part time channel.


The PAC 12 channel and this are so different in every way... I would not at all look at how DirecTV approached those channels as to how they will approach these. And even if they did, if I where twc I'd be fine with DirecTV picking up this channel a la cart. They'd have most subs pick it up.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 09:11 AM

Are they really paying $5 per customer for FS SD or are they getting it as part of the cost of FS west and prime ticket?


Great point.

Also, it has to be clarified that FSSD is only a part time channel for D*, but at least on Cox in San Diego, it is a 24 hour channel that also brought the Clippers, Chivas, etc to Cox for the first time. Cox was not carrying Prime Ticket, so it in essence added another full time RSN, with the Padres. Obviously, Cox sees $5 a month as a reasonable price.

I agree that comparing the cost of FSSD on D* to whatever TWC is asking for the Lakers is a poor comparison. Totally different set of circumstances.

EDIT: TWC and NFL Network reach deal: http://www.bloomberg...rk-redzone.html

TWC getting its negotiating ducks in a row?

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 10:15 AM

My gripe is how can D* justify in agreeing to carry Fox Sports San Diego at a $5 per customer price tag and yet hold out on the Lakers new RSN channels when the Lakers RSN channels will have more programming, more pro & college sports coverage and is a full time 24/7 channel. When on the other hand FSN San Diego is a part time channel.


What is your source for the $5 number?

Besides, the deal probably included Prime Ticket, and the deal was probably signed before TWC had bought the Lakers rights and as such were to be shown in San Diego as part of the DMA. They also get Clippers, Kings, Ducks, Galaxy and Chivas as SD only has a NFL and MLB team. (If you have sports pack, FSWest may not be blacked out when any of the above teams play on it).

Also, TWC Sportsnet Los Angeles may be called that, but they market to the entire Lakers DMA including Hawaii, San Diego, Nevada. Might make it a bit more interesting, as that means DirecTV has to pay a lot of money for the people in Hawaii and Nevada as well to receive it as part of their DMA, while there are probably LESS Lakers fans out there than in L.A. and San Diego.

Looking at PAC12, I can almost guarantee you that DirecTV won't have the networks on October 1st. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you will NOT see any pre-season games on DirecTV.
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Posted 21 September 2012 - 10:20 AM

Great point.

Also, it has to be clarified that FSSD is only a part time channel for D*, but at least on Cox in San Diego, it is a 24 hour channel that also brought the Clippers, Chivas, etc to Cox for the first time. Cox was not carrying Prime Ticket, so it in essence added another full time RSN, with the Padres. Obviously, Cox sees $5 a month as a reasonable price.

I agree that comparing the cost of FSSD on D* to whatever TWC is asking for the Lakers is a poor comparison. Totally different set of circumstances.

EDIT: TWC and NFL Network reach deal: http://www.bloomberg...rk-redzone.html

TWC getting its negotiating ducks in a row?


Last bit is interesting. Don't want to be called hypocrites in talks with others, I guess.
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Posted 21 September 2012 - 01:22 PM

TWC getting its negotiating ducks in a row?

Or now that they have those two channels they can now say to Lakers fans "hey we have the Lakers and the NFL now, no need to stay with D*".

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 01:56 PM

Or now that they have those two channels they can now say to Lakers fans "hey we have the Lakers and the NFL now, no need to stay with D*".


The nfl is a selling point in LA?
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Posted 21 September 2012 - 02:57 PM

The nfl is a selling point in LA?


LOL good point. ;)

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 09:01 PM

The nfl is a selling point in LA?


No local team, obviously, but there are a lot of people in L.A. who are originally from "somewhere else" and still have an allegiance to a non-local team.
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 12:29 AM

Yeah but those ''somewhere else'' people dont watch the NFL,I can remember a few years back during nfl playoffs there was an earthquake in so cal. and a lot of people were sent to either rose bowl or the collesium,they set up tvs so the fans could watch the football games, but instead the fans changed the channel and were watching SOCCER INSTEAD!:eek2:

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 07:58 AM

Well one more week until launch, lets see if anything big happens this week.

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 10:48 AM

I wonder if a deal will be purposely delayed in order to judge the uproar and use it for bargaining leverage...

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 12:23 PM

I wonder if a deal will be purposely delayed in order to judge the uproar and use it for bargaining leverage...


I really don't think that is necessary with this channel. The PAC 12 channels maybe, but they know people will be mad about this channel.

This channel is going to hurt DirecTV if they don't have soon after the season starts, far more than the lack of the pac12 channel ever will. However, the two combined will cause the most damage, which is why I think we will see this channel, but may not see the pac12.

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 12:49 PM

Well one more week until launch, lets see if anything big happens this week.


Don't count on it especially with Directv's Robert Mercers comments to media.




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