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Lakers New Regional TV Network - NOW ON THE AIR


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#1021 OFFLINE   sigma1914

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 08:45 AM

As bad as the Pirates are they drew 2,091.918 fans for an average of 26,148 pergame. In 2010 (i left out 2011 because of the short season) the lakers drew 778,887 for an average of 18,997 per game. Los Angeles and their market is a lot bigger than Pittsburgh, but its basketball, and as much as you may not like it basketball still trails baseball in popularity.


Basketball arenas are A LOT smaller - horrible comparison. Look at TV ratings and basketball is on par with baseball. Some years the NBA Finals outdraw the World Series and vice versa. For example:
2010 - NBA averaged 10.6 ratings and 18.1 million viewers while the MLB WS averaged 10.06 ratings and 17 million viewers.
2011 - NBA averaged 10.2 ratings and 17.3 million viewers while the MLB WS averaged 11.3 ratings and 18.9 million viewers.

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#1022 OFFLINE   inkahauts

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 12:02 PM

Because the L.A. market will only support a winner except for the Dodgers they always draw well. I don't understand why the NFL is so insistent about putting another team here. The Lakers are wildly popular and they win consistently.


Oh there is no question many teams from other markets could make more money if they where in the Los Angeles market. That's why. They just want a sweetheart deal to come here in the first place to make even more money because they are so greedy.

#1023 OFFLINE   inkahauts

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 12:10 PM

My market (Nielsen #22, Portland) is spread out horribly. Our NBA team (Trailblazers) is on Comcast, the college teams (Oregon, Oregon State) are on PAC-12 and the MLB (Mariners) and NFL (Seahawks) teams are on Root.

IIRC, DIRECTV carries only Root. DISH carries Root and Pac-12 and Comcast carries all three.


Its hard to call the pac12 a regional channel, even though they have regional outlets. It's really one network.

You are in Portland, which has one RSN. The Seahawks are on national tv, so they are never on a RSN. Mariners are in Seattle, so they are on a RSN in Seattle that is pushed to your area because the mariners also have your market. Not at all the same as three main RSNs plus the pac12 for all major sports that actually are on RSNs and are allocated in the exact same DMA in the first place.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 05:23 PM

Charter is the first real add for time warner cable sportsnet LA.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 06:50 PM

Charter Cable has signed on.......the subs will be paying $12.50 a month.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 07:04 PM

Charter Cable has signed on.......the subs will be paying $12.50 a month.


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Posted 26 October 2012 - 07:23 PM

Premium channel?


It's on the "JGS" Network. Don't do it DirecTV, let them enjoy the Sparks and Galaxy, two "pro" teams that will draw 3 people to the new channel, oh wait, they well draw 4 fans because TWC has two channels.

#1028 OFFLINE   inkahauts

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 07:23 PM

Well, I will have to look into that tomorrow and see what deals I can get. I have considered getting their Internet service anyway, so this may be the push to go ahead and do that.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 07:30 PM

Verizon Fios has now also reached a deal to carry the channels.

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http://www.twcsports...net-102612.html

If this nonsense between Directv & TWC Sportsnet carries into the first week of the regular season and AT&T U-Verse reaches a deal before Directv I will not hesitate to cancel D* and go back to AT&T U-Verse.They are offering a $200 gift card for me to come back to them.

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#1030 OFFLINE   inkahauts

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 07:35 PM

Verizon Fios has now also reached a deal to carry the channels.


It's like dominos now. The question is, did twc relent on some part of all this to make these deals happen, or did these two just pop for what twc wanted?

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 07:41 PM

It's like dominos now. The question is, did twc relent on some part of all this to make these deals happen, or did these two just pop for what twc wanted?


TWC may have cut Charter & Verizon a deal in order to force DIRECTV's hand. :sure:

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 07:43 PM

TWC may have cut Charter & Verizon a deal in order to force DIRECTV's hand. :sure:


I really don't give DAMN at this point and want the channels on D* ASAP.

This is such BS between both TWC SportsNet & D*.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 07:46 PM

I really don't give DAMN at this point and want the channels on D* ASAP.

This is such BS between both TWC SportsNet & D*.


Agreed!

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 07:49 PM

It's like dominos now. The question is, did twc relent on some part of all this to make these deals happen, or did these two just pop for what twc wanted?


More likely the latter, as that's usually the end result. The channels ask for the moon because they know they'll ultimately get it, which is why programming costs in general have skyrocketed like crazy in recent years despite the current estate of the economy.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 08:16 PM

It's on the "JGS" Network. Don't do it DirecTV, let them enjoy the Sparks and Galaxy, two "pro" teams that will draw 3 people to the new channel, oh wait, they well draw 4 fans because TWC has two channels.


I don't understand. JGS?
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#1036 OFFLINE   inkahauts

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 09:46 PM

More likely the latter, as that's usually the end result. The channels ask for the moon because they know they'll ultimately get it, which is why programming costs in general have skyrocketed like crazy in recent years despite the current estate of the economy.


Actually, that's not normally the case all the time, and I don't think twc can afford to take to big a risk here. They have to have the eyeballs to make their money back on this, no two ways about it. And just ask Viacom and tribune if channels always get what they want.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 12:03 AM

It's like dominos now. The question is, did twc relent on some part of all this to make these deals happen, or did these two just pop for what twc wanted?


TWC cut Charter a deal because they serve separate areas and don't compete for any customers. TWC wants DTV customers to leave for their service (which is worth more that $4 a month to them), but if DTV is crazy enough to bend over backwards and pay that BS "fair" rate, then that'll be okay for them too. TWC is getting exactly what they want here. The Lakers are a pawn and DTV is in a lose-lose situation.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 12:25 AM

I don't understand. JGS?


The "Just Got Screwed" network.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 01:55 AM

TWC cut Charter a deal because they serve separate areas and don't compete for any customers. TWC wants DTV customers to leave for their service (which is worth more that $4 a month to them), but if DTV is crazy enough to bend over backwards and pay that BS "fair" rate, then that'll be okay for them too. TWC is getting exactly what they want here. The Lakers are a pawn and DTV is in a lose-lose situation.


I can't believe so many people think twc thinks they can even come out even with this channel without DirecTV picking it up. They cannot. Dish won't jump, so they have to get DirecTV. Now if they got dish,then they could afford to not get DirecTV, maybe. They have to have the advertising dollars and they won't get it without getting every single customer to switch, and there is zro chance of that. They need all carriers. DirecTV has more customers that twc does in the Lakers market.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 01:57 AM

It's on the "JGS" Network. Don't do it DirecTV, let them enjoy the Sparks and Galaxy, two "pro" teams that will draw 3 people to the new channel, oh wait, they well draw 4 fans because TWC has two channels.


That doesn't even make sense.




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