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Lakers New Regional TV Network - NOW ON THE AIR


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#1041 OFFLINE   acostapimps

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 02:10 AM

The way lakers are playing now is it worth to negotiate until they get it together, just sayin.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 03:42 AM

That doesn't even make sense.



Doesn't make sense? The Lakers are all TWC has, and given that the Lakers will only be seen on TWC for about 60 games, it will and should impact what DirecTV is willing to pay TWC. This is not brain surgery. If TWC get's the Dodgers, well, you now have a more full time network.
I still have TWC Internet (I watch the Lakers live online, not through TWC) including other games from around the league on that same website, so i'm more than happy to follow the Lakers on something other than TWC. I had TWC since the beginning of mankind.........and i will never go back.
The Lakers new Regional Network is a part time thing..........and i beg DirecTV to tell them to go to you know where.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 09:45 AM

Verizon Fios has now also reached a deal to carry the channels.

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http://www.twcsports...net-102612.html

If this nonsense between Directv & TWC Sportsnet carries into the first week of the regular season and AT&T U-Verse reaches a deal before Directv I will not hesitate to cancel D* and go back to AT&T U-Verse.They are offering a $200 gift card for me to come back to them.



what are the terms and is Deportes in the main pack????
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#1044 OFFLINE   HoTat2

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 10:48 AM

what are the terms and is Deportes in the main pack????


From all reports I've read, the specific details for the FiOS deal have not been released yet, but to be in the coming days.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 11:05 AM

Nice to see Fios get this channel like they did with CSN Philly. Poor Direct TV and their attempts at shifting the paradigm. Perhaps more subscribers will shift their subscriptions in Fios direction.. Hopefully D* will step up to the plate for Cali.. Wish they would in Philadelphia.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 11:10 AM

Could this list be right as far as RSN pricing is concerned?

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 11:30 AM

Doesn't make sense? The Lakers are all TWC has, and given that the Lakers will only be seen on TWC for about 60 games, it will and should impact what DirecTV is willing to pay TWC. This is not brain surgery. If TWC get's the Dodgers, well, you now have a more full time network.
I still have TWC Internet (I watch the Lakers live online, not through TWC) including other games from around the league on that same website, so i'm more than happy to follow the Lakers on something other than TWC. I had TWC since the beginning of mankind.........and i will never go back.
The Lakers new Regional Network is a part time thing..........and i beg DirecTV to tell them to go to you know where.


I still don't get what you where saying in that one post. You talking aout the sparks and such, and don't mention the Lakers. Sorry, juts didn't make sense.

As for following online, the quality really sucks. Not an acceptable option IMHO.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 11:38 AM

Nice to see Fios get this channel like they did with CSN Philly. Poor Direct TV and their attempts at shifting the paradigm. Perhaps more subscribers will shift their subscriptions in Fios direction.. Hopefully D* will step up to the plate for Cali.. Wish they would in Philadelphia.


Form what I have read, part of the problem with this negotiation is that twc wants DirecTV to pay the same amount for any and all subscribers that have any access to the channel. ,I wouldn't be surprised if Philly wants that as well. The problem is, that's not right and they should pay according to location. FIOS and charter don't have this issue, they will only carry it in local areas. DirecTV customers that have the sports pack will have access, but will be blacked out for games. That isn't going to fly for charging full pop to those customers that are out of market.

Otherwise, I can't figure out how twc can be asking for $4 a pop from 12 million customers of DirecTV.

Im also sure Philly wants that and more than any $4.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 11:41 AM

Could this list be right as far as RSN pricing is concerned?


If it is, some stations are ridiculously out of line for what they get in comparison to what they have on the channel.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 12:02 PM

Form what I have read, part of the problem with this negotiation is that twc wants DirecTV to pay the same amount for any and all subscribers that have any access to the channel. ,I wouldn't be surprised if Philly wants that as well. The problem is, that's not right and they should pay according to location. FIOS and charter don't have this issue, they will only carry it in local areas. DirecTV customers that have the sports pack will have access, but will be blacked out for games. That isn't going to fly for charging full pop to those customers that are out of market.

Otherwise, I can't figure out how twc can be asking for $4 a pop from 12 million customers of DirecTV.

Im also sure Philly wants that and more than any $4.


Charter is the smaller cable company with close to 600k customers in LA, SoCal, and some parts of central Cali.

Verizon Fios though is pretty big and they literally own all of the ILEC zones in LA and Riverside counties.

A big problem with Directv and Cox and why they probably will be the last companies to reach agreements is because of the customer bases in the Lakers DMA zones.Cox is huge in San Diego, Orange County, and Las Vegas.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 12:14 PM

Charter is the smaller cable company with close to 600k customers in LA, SoCal, and some parts of central Cali.


Actually...

Charter has 360,000 subscribers in the Southern California area.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 12:18 PM

so how much are charter folks paying a month for these channels,its not really $12.95 a month is it? I have verizon and if they charge that much i'd rather not have the channels, but then again i'm not a laker fan anyway. I wouldnt mind having the channels i just dont want to pay a ridicolus amont of money for it.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 12:27 PM

Charter is the smaller cable company with close to 600k customers in LA, SoCal, and some parts of central Cali.

Verizon Fios though is pretty big and they literally own all of the ILEC zones in LA and Riverside counties.

A big problem with Directv and Cox and why they probably will be the last companies to reach agreements is because of the customer bases in the Lakers DMA zones.Cox is huge in San Diego, Orange County, and Las Vegas.


That's my thinking on it;

DIRECTV has perhaps 1.7 million subscribers in the Lakers' entire market. Therefore at the $3.95 per sub. per month rate TWC wants that's ~$7 million per month or $80 million per year, for what is essentially a one team channel at only 53 exclusive regular season games right now.

And in addition to this, though possibly at much reduced rate, fees for out of market Sports Pack subscribers who have access to the channels but not the actual games.

COX is in a similar situation with its approximately 1.2 million subscribers in the Lakers' market for around a $57 million per year cost at TWC's rates.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 12:42 PM

Charter is the smaller cable company with close to 600k customers in LA, SoCal, and some parts of central Cali.

Verizon Fios though is pretty big and they literally own all of the ILEC zones in LA and Riverside counties.

A big problem with Directv and Cox and why they probably will be the last companies to reach agreements is because of the customer bases in the Lakers DMA zones.Cox is huge in San Diego, Orange County, and Las Vegas.


FIOS and charter want have the channel nationally like DirecTV, and probably not even out of the Los Angeles market, where as cox and DirecTV probably want it to the entire Lakers market at a minimum.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 12:44 PM

If anyone's interested, the LA Times did a breakdown of subscribers in SoCal:

TWC: Over 2 million
DirecTV: 1.7 million
Cox: 1.2 million
Dish: 900,000
Verizon: 500,000
Charter: over 350,000

One of my friends who has FiOS doesn't care what tier they put it in, he's just glad he doesn't have to switch to TWC (which he was going to do).

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 12:45 PM

.......And in addition to this, though possibly at much reduced rate, fees for out of market Sports Pack subscribers who have access to the channels but not the actual games.
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The one Los Angeles times article I read made it sound like twc wants the same rate for all customers regardless of area, because otherwise, I don't know how they could possibly say twc wants $3.95 for all 12 million subs from DirecTV.

And that's assuming that there are a total of 12 subs between all the Lakers market and all the sports pack subs combined.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 12:47 PM

If anyone's interested, the LA Times did a breakdown of subscribers in SoCal:

TWC: Over 2 million
DirecTV: 1.7 million
Cox: 1.2 million
Dish: 900,000
Verizon: 500,000
Charter: over 350,000

One of my friends who has FiOS doesn't care what tier they put it in, he's just glad he doesn't have to switch to TWC (which he was going to do).


I think that's the Los Angeles market, not the Lakers market. I think DirecTV has more than twc does if its the entire Lakers market.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 01:18 PM

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The one Los Angeles times article I read made it sound like twc wants the same rate for all customers regardless of area, because otherwise, I don't know how they could possibly say twc wants $3.95 for all 12 million subs from DirecTV.

And that's assuming that there are a total of 12 subs between all the Lakers market and all the sports pack subs combined.


I can't hardly believe TWC would be that unreasonable to want to charge out of market Sports Pack customers the same full $3.95/sub./mo. rate when those customers cannot even view the actual Lakers games and must purchase LP separately for that purpose.

On what justification would they have for charging that for only Lakers' non-game programming? :nono:

Are SP subscribers allowed to see the re-broadcasts of the Lakers' games or something?

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 02:46 PM

I can't hardly believe TWC would be that unreasonable to want to charge out of market Sports Pack customers the same full $3.95/sub./mo. rate when those customers cannot even view the actual Lakers games and must purchase LP separately for that purpose.

On what justification would they have for charging that for only Lakers' non-game programming? :nono:

Are SP subscribers allowed to see the re-broadcasts of the Lakers' games or something?


Hey' the writer, could have been mistaken... If so, its ridiculous.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 03:06 PM

I still don't get what you where saying in that one post. You talking aout the sparks and such, and don't mention the Lakers. Sorry, juts didn't make sense.

As for following online, the quality really sucks. Not an acceptable option IMHO.


I'm talking about Fios and Charter, let them enjoy the Sparks and Galaxy and a partial Laker season. I don't want to pay extra money and many of the 12 million DirecTV customers don't want to pay for something as insignificant as this is. I have a 52" HD TV, i watch everything in HD, however, i'll gladly accept watching the Lakers in SD for 2 1/2 hours on a part time basis. The other Lakers games i'll watch in HD like ESPN, TNT, etc.




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