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#1461 OFFLINE   iceturkee

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 02:19 PM

out of market feed with blackouts and likely lower rates also bright house is tied to TWC.


of course, i realize bhn is to twc as time warner does there negotiations.

i'm not sure what programming central florida will receive on that channel without a subscription. its the fact that cable is getting it and my satellite provider isn't.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 03:17 PM

Excellent point WebTraveler. If Mike White is serious about controlling costs on local RSNs, being Directv CEO he should lead by example and move all Root Sports RSNs in the local markets to a-la-carte or the sports pak.


That's a good idea. He would profit in the long run if he enacted that policy and stuck to it since it would cost them revenue from all the people who wouldn't pay for the sports tier in Pittsburgh and Seattle but they would make it back and then some from everywhere else. If he lowered everyone's bill at the same time he did this, I think D* would look good and probably get new subscribers.

#1463 OFFLINE   Satelliteracer

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 03:34 PM

i am still troubled that bright house in central florida will be adding both versions of twc sports net next month.

i have always respected directv for their sports offerings. my respect may be slowly starting to change.


Bright House is TWC in the sense that TWC does all the negotiations for Bright House for programming content.

Last line of this story...http://www.tampabay....stomers/1252601
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#1464 OFFLINE   moob

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 03:42 PM

Yes, Comcast covers the Lakers market.

Barely. In the grand scheme of things, Comcast is meaningless in this market.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 04:30 PM

Bright House is TWC in the sense that TWC does all the negotiations for Bright House for programming content.

Last line of this story...http://www.tampabay....stomers/1252601


I am well aware that two negotiates for bhn. This story is old because nfl network has been available for almost a month!

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 04:46 PM

I am well aware that two negotiates for bhn. This story is old because nfl network has been available for almost a month!


Hmm, if you live on the outskirts of the Lakers' territory don't be shocked that once this deal gets done you are blacked out of all non-national Lakers' telecasts. It seems to be a trend now.

No Rockets, Mavs, Spurs in Louisiana. No Grizzlies or Pacers games in Kentucky. No T'Wolves games in Iowa.

I could certainly see no Lakers games in Nevada.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 04:58 PM

Hmm, if you live on the outskirts of the Lakers' territory don't be shocked that once this deal gets done you are blacked out of all non-national Lakers' telecasts. It seems to be a trend now.

No Rockets, Mavs, Spurs in Louisiana. No Grizzlies or Pacers games in Kentucky. No T'Wolves games in Iowa.

I could certainly see no Lakers games in Nevada.


Nevada is the home territory for the lakers.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 05:00 PM

I am well aware that two negotiates for bhn. This story is old because nfl network has been available for almost a month!


Correct, story is old, merely pointing out that BHN's negotiations are handled by TWC so not surprising they have the channel.
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 05:07 PM

Nevada is the home territory for the lakers.


That's my point.

Grizzlies and Pacers are home territory for a poster on this forum who lives in Kentucky. Directv is not carrying those in-market games for that person (therefore they are also blacked out on LP).

Rockets, Mavs and Spurs are home territory for a poster on this forum who lives in Louisiana. Directv is not carrying those in-market games for that person (therefore they are also blacked out on LP).

With how negotiations are going, and how expensive this channel is, don't be shocked if DIRECTV does not offer it to everyone in Lakers' territory.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 05:19 PM

That's my point.

Grizzlies and Pacers are home territory for a poster on this forum who lives in Kentucky. Directv is not carrying those in-market games for that person (therefore they are also blacked out on LP).

Rockets, Mavs and Spurs are home territory for a poster on this forum who lives in Louisiana. Directv is not carrying those in-market games for that person (therefore they are also blacked out on LP).

With how negotiations are going, and how expensive this channel is, don't be shocked if DIRECTV does not offer it to everyone in Lakers' territory.


Why would someone is Louisiana get every Texas team when they get the Hornets? People in Dallas don't get Rockets or Spurs, Houston people don't get Mavericks or Spurs, and San Antonio doesn't get Mavericks or Rockets.
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 05:23 PM

Why would someone is Louisiana get every Texas team when they get the Hornets? People in Dallas don't get Rockets or Spurs, Houston people don't get Mavericks or Spurs, and San Antonio doesn't get Mavericks or Rockets.


You'd have to ask the NBA or the respective teams to explain their goofy territories.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 05:46 PM

Barely. In the grand scheme of things, Comcast is meaningless in this market.


Those numbers are off
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 06:10 PM

Wow! So even if D* picks up TWC SN, don't count on seeing the Lakers outside of Los Angeles, even if you're in their broadcast territory.


I'm the only person I see speculating this just based on all the threads and posts I've seen on just this forum as it relates to other teams. That's not even remotely official.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 06:16 PM

I understand. I'm doing the same from reading the tea leaves...


You're just perpetuating F.U.D.
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 06:38 PM

I'm the only person I see speculating this just based on all the threads and posts I've seen on just this forum as it relates to other teams. That's not even remotely official.


I just looked up a variety of Louisiana zip codes and found nowhere should they get Rockets or Spurs, however about half of Louisiana is Mavericks territory. The closer to New Orleans loses the Mavericks.
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 09:48 PM

That's my point.

Grizzlies and Pacers are home territory for a poster on this forum who lives in Kentucky. Directv is not carrying those in-market games for that person (therefore they are also blacked out on LP).

Rockets, Mavs and Spurs are home territory for a poster on this forum who lives in Louisiana. Directv is not carrying those in-market games for that person (therefore they are also blacked out on LP).

With how negotiations are going, and how expensive this channel is, don't be shocked if DIRECTV does not offer it to everyone in Lakers' territory.


Maybe Satteliteracer can explain that at some point, it seems off.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 10:15 PM

Sure, and violate a contract that says those sports channels have to be distributed in a certain way with a minimum number of eyeballs. What a great idea....violating contracts and such. What could possibly go wrong? :rolleyes:


Violate a contract where he sits on BOTH sides!

Root Sports is owned 100% by Directv, so he'd be enforcing a contract against himself? He can also let himself out of the same contract. See when a parent controls the sub it can do that. Or for the sake of argument parent can pay a fine to sub and then sub can send the dollars right back to parent.

Really now, seriously this is your argument? Silly.

If it makes you better he can have his secretary call himself up and leave messages for himself on voice mail and negotiate with himself. Or look in the mirror and talk to himself.

Bottom line is that RSN model is changing and Directv has substantial invetsment in RSNs itself and is doing whatever it can to protect itself from the changes. Sure $2.33 a month or whatever for Root NW and we get High School football......meanwhile over at Pac 12 they are charging 80 cents for 7 channels and get real games! So who is over charging who!?

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 10:18 PM

Dish is more diversified and has more revenue streams. They made money last qtr if you consider it before they had to pay the legal settlement to cablevision over the voom issue.

Directv has, well, Directv.


And which makes me wonder that since TV programming is the only real revenue stream for the DTH satellite industry, the only way for DIRECTV and Dish to ultimately survive is to merge into one sole super DTH satellite carrier.

I really don't think DIRECTV and Dish can really afford to compete against each other plus the CATV and Telco distributors for much longer and need to combine their forces into a sole satellite carrier to compete against CATV and Telco industry.

I mean I realize this wreaks of a monopoly for the satellite option, stifles competition and user choice to some degree, and federal regulators certainly won't like it, but I'm not sure there's a future viable alternative unless they (the feds) want to see DBS satellite service eventually disappear altogether.



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Posted 08 November 2012 - 10:26 PM

Dish is more diversified and has more revenue streams. They made money last qtr if you consider it before they had to pay the legal settlement to cablevision over the voom issue.

Directv has, well, Directv.


Dish lost 8% revenue even if they didn't have the pay out so you're not correct. You're also incorrect on how business works but it won't change the fact that you won't be happy. So I won't bother to try to muddy the water with facts.
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 11:02 PM

Did the "test" channel 9732 stop working for you guys earlier today?

It has gone black on my end (error code: 721, "channel not subscribed" message).

Others getting the same or is it still active?




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