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Anyone receiving KOIN/CBS from Portland - Is your audio 'Screechy'?


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#21 OFFLINE   Orion9

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 01:55 PM

Perhaps the ~2 million people in the KOIN area are all one-eared and could educate themselves so they could experience the joy of: "just awful, very strident, screechy voices", "screechy, ugly sound", and women who "sound like Pirates". Then again, maybe they don't think that's worth the effort! :)

101 debugging, COMPARE things!


I'm comparing the 2 million who don't appear to be complaining and the ones here who are specifically not complaining to the 1 (and only 1 so far) who is. Debugging 101 leads me to the conclusion that it's most likely on your end. It could be your equipment (as YOU originally suggested) or it could be your hearing as you seem to prefer now. If there were two or three complaining, then we might be able to find some common thread, but with 1 it's hard to do.

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#22 OFFLINE   winman97

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 05:05 PM

This thread is quite long with a lot of back and forth, but did you DISCONNECT your sound system from the dish receiver and connect dish receiver audio output to the tv's audio input and listen to the sound through the TV speakers. If so, was the screechy sound still there?
If so and the sound is still there, it is your dish receiver. Do you have a second dish receiver in the house that has the screechy sound on the same channel?

It could even be the LNB on the Dish. I once had a customer that had one or two channels that would just blank out and not return until the next morning. Then that afternoon the same channel(s) would blank out again and and not return until the next day. Changed the LNB and that fixed the problem.

Edited by winman97, 06 February 2013 - 05:17 PM.


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Posted 07 February 2013 - 07:11 AM

And the man with 1 ear can not hear stereo and the man with 1 eye can not see depth!

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What is your point?

KOIN is fine. I have it on right now, for example. I have NEVER noticed any issues with KOIN.

#24 OFFLINE   RVRambler

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 11:57 PM

MODERATOR, PLEASE CLOSE/LOCK THIS THREAD, PLEASE!

Thanks, but I can tell you did not read all MY posts, I compared & eliminated the equip, long ago.

Being a past audiophile and having an Elec. Engineering degree & long interest in audio, methods of and equip., designing some stereo equipment even, & reading many research lit. on hearing and ppl's perceptions, I am not surprised with the responses here.

What's funny is the 'certainty' of ppl's convictions, especially when they have ONLY 1 CBS station to sample (I compared KOIN to at least 4 other CBS stations), no ability to compare but yet, they are so certain its my problem not KOIN's.

Strange, Funny, Sad, but not surprising with the casual/layperson's perceptions and certainty with so little foundation of experience or education, and not knowing how easily a humans senses/thoughts are fooled, good and bad.

The human brain really does some wonderful things, both hearing and seeing are SO very complex, human perceptions are fooled so very often (to the good often, ie mp3, mpeg2/4, etc) but you do not or may not perceive it unless you know the science, and maybe not even then.

So I should have NEVER started this thread, but first thought it a 'Dish' signal issue, even though I heard it with DTV the previous summer, but had forgotten, my mistake in starting and maintaining this silly thread !! :)

I just wonder why it is ONLY KOIN that I hear this, oh forgot, KCBS (LA) did not have screechy audio either - 5 CBS stations!!

Let this dead horse lay dead! Please! RIP dead horse! :)

This thread is quite long with a lot of back and forth, but did you DISCONNECT your sound system from the dish receiver and connect dish receiver audio output to the tv's audio input and listen to the sound through the TV speakers. If so, was the screechy sound still there?
If so and the sound is still there, it is your dish receiver. Do you have a second dish receiver in the house that has the screechy sound on the same channel?

It could even be the LNB on the Dish. I once had a customer that had one or two channels that would just blank out and not return until the next morning. Then that afternoon the same channel(s) would blank out again and and not return until the next day. Changed the LNB and that fixed the problem.


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Posted 13 February 2013 - 09:16 AM

Thanks, but I can tell you did not read all MY posts, I compared & eliminated the equip, long ago.

People tend to get lost in windy posts after the first couple of sentences; especially when the poster seems to be talking more about their life story than the supposed problem.

The insistence that posters who didn't agree must have an intolerable sound system or must have significant hearing loss didn't win you any support.

A real EE might have offered instrumented analyses and certainly wouldn't make comparisons based on memory.

AVSForum might be a better fit for a thread like this as there are many there who discuss such things (their self-decided awesomeness) at every opportunity.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 12:50 PM

Harsh wins the thread! :)

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 07:34 PM

What's funny is the 'certainty' of ppl's convictions, especially when they have ONLY 1 CBS station to sample (I compared KOIN to at least 4 other CBS stations), no ability to compare but yet, they are so certain its my problem not KOIN's.


Well you claimed that women sound like Pirates which I think most people would notice without looking at a difference signal through an oscilloscope. :)

Why close the thread? You might someday find a second person who can hear an issue. Maybe you'll both be golden-eared audiophiles and it will confirm your suspicion. Or maybe it will tell you something else.




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