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Transponder Maps: Domestic, LatinAm and SkyMex New Data 12/19/2012


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#226 OFFLINE   Sixto

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 11:05 AM

The sat is dying !!! OMG ! :D

Do we think the spreadsheet is correct for D10? or maybe just some data misplaced.
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#227 OFFLINE   P Smith

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 11:11 AM

It was a joke.

Seems to me we have not displaced so many channels.

Remember ? You (and anyone who is posting here and has his H/HR connected to his home network) always could ask your DVR (via SHEF cmd83) where is particular channel transmitting.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 11:14 AM

It was a joke.

Seems to me we have not displaced so many channels.

Remember ? You always could ask your DVR (via SHEF cmd83) where is particular channel transmitting.

Yep P., I understand.

Wish I knew how to do that SHEF stuff, and I've not yet solved the redirection issue with my pulling of the data. Thanks for your previous info.

Thus trying to understand if you think that the latest spreadsheet is correct for D10?

Even with my data, which doesn't have the redirection issue fixed yet, it sure looks like there is no longer anything important on D10 as of today. Yes, a few channels here and there, but nothing hugely popular.

They've been moving stuff almost daily.
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 11:18 AM

You should invest a few minutes of your free time for the cmd83; it would be pretty easy for you as you wrote parsing/comparing program for process raw data.
It was discuss in great details recently (here ?).

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 11:22 AM

You should invest a few minutes of your free time for the cmd83; it would be pretty easy for you as you wrote parsing/comparing program for process raw data.
It was discuss in great details recently (here ?).

Would love to.

What is SHEF cmd83?

Does that involve USB attaching to receiver, or is there some IP protocol?
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 11:27 AM

Would love to.

What is SHEF cmd83?

Does that involve USB attaching to receiver, or is there some IP protocol?


You got by yourself :) http://www.dbstalk.c...2&postcount=919

It's been in the thread at http://www.dbstalk.c...6&postcount=134

And here http://www.dbstalk.c...7&postcount=361

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 11:34 AM

You got by yourself :) http://www.dbstalk.c...2&postcount=919

It's been in the thread at http://www.dbstalk.c...6&postcount=134

And here http://www.dbstalk.c...7&postcount=361

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 11:35 AM

NP. Glad you finally find time for corrections.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 11:38 AM

NP. Glad you finally find time for corrections.

So you think that the gct spreadsheet from 10/17 is correct? and it's not just a spreadsheet issue?

It only shows the following HD CONUS channels on D10.
bioHD	266
CINEHD	144
BBCAHD	264
CINEHD	145
ESPN3D	106
PLDAHD	567
3net	107
beINHD	620
CINEHD	139
MAXwHD	516
NGWHD	283
E!HD	236
CINEHD	135
DESTHD	286
HB2wHD	505
CINEHD	129
CINE3D	104
TCMHD	256
CINEHD	134
CINEHD	126
CINEHD	130
IONEHD	305
MSG+HD	635
DSJRHD	289
CINEHD	131

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 11:41 AM

Just noticed that the totals tab is old. I had looked at it quickly and thought it was current, and the detailed data tabs might be wrong, but now that I look at it more closely it's last update was 9/26.
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 11:49 AM

Calling Huston :) ...

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 11:50 AM

Just noticed that the totals tab is old. I had looked at it quickly and thought it was current, and the detailed data tabs might be wrong, but now that I look at it more closely it's last update was 9/26.


But even that's strange since as I posted, the 9/26 map is showing only 59 CONUS channels for D10, whereas the 10/17 channel count tab is listing it at 83.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 11:56 AM

Thank you!


And of note, dielray gave the IP syntax for the multituner ("MT") commands listed in the SHEF here.

http://www.dbstalk.c...547#post3096547

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 01:58 PM

Full docs: http://satinstalltra...automation.html

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 08:39 PM

So you think that the gct spreadsheet from 10/17 is correct? and it's not just a spreadsheet issue?

It only shows the following HD CONUS channels on D10.

bioHD    266
CINEHD    144
BBCAHD    264
CINEHD    145
ESPN3D    106
PLDAHD    567
3net    107
beINHD    620
CINEHD    139
MAXwHD    516
NGWHD    283
E!HD    236
CINEHD    135
DESTHD    286
HB2wHD    505
CINEHD    129
CINE3D    104
TCMHD    256
CINEHD    134
CINEHD    126
CINEHD    130
IONEHD    305
MSG+HD    635
DSJRHD    289
CINEHD    131


Sixto,

I am very comfortable that the TPN Map is accurate. A lot of time and work has gone into that assurance. I will update the 'Channel Count' tab of the Excel spreadsheet tonight - I'll post a note when that is accomplished.

Here is a key for you: as suggested, use the IP interface to your DVR - ANY DVR (the HR34 works fastest). As long as your DVR is on your home IP Network, go into your favorite browser and enter:

http://<ipaddr>:8080/tv/tune?major=<n>&minor=65535

to set the DVR to a given channel,
where (decimal channel number <n>) and
where <ipaddr> is the IP address of your DVR

http://<ipaddr>:8080/serial/processCommand?cmd=FA83

to read the various parameters of that channel. See the references provided in this thread for interpretation of the response data, typically in Hex.

That is all there is too it. The responses from the DVR already include the influence of any redirection. You can validate each and any entry in the TPN Map. Do this pair of commands 9,000 times and you can validate a full TPN Map. One caveat - using this method, you can only get results for those channels you can receive. You won't be able to check out our San Diego locals from your home.

Edited by gct, 06 November 2012 - 08:13 PM.



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Posted 19 October 2012 - 09:19 PM

Of Note:

The 'Channel Count' tab of the TPN Map (Domestic) has been updated to reflect the 10/17 counts. Sixto's analysis and tracking is confirmed.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 09:31 PM

Thanks gct.

For the SHEF stuff, I was hoping you could pull all the data at once, can't imagine that I'd do one channel at a time, back to trying to fix the tool for the sat stream.
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 09:46 PM

Other technical note: by removing smart card you can get info about channels what are not subscribed and some test channels (no video/audio - just the hex data !). No LiLs outside of you spotbeams.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 09:47 PM

Thanks gct.

For the SHEF stuff, I was hoping you could pull all the data at once, can't imagine that I'd do one channel at a time, back to trying to fix the tool for the sat stream.


The beauty here is that you can validate one channel/any channel whenever you wish. You don't need to wait for the TPN Map Weekly Report. If you have questions on redirection - the question is resolved here.

Sample your way through the channels moving from D10 to D12 and get yourself comfortable that we are dealing with accurate data. It is a superb double check.


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Posted 19 October 2012 - 09:58 PM

The beauty here is that you can validate one channel/any channel whenever you wish. You don't need to wait for the TPN Map Weekly Report. If you have questions on redirection - the question is resolved here.

Sample your way through the channels moving from D10 to D12 and get yourself comfortable that we are dealing with accurate data. It is a superb double check.

Oh yeah, I trust your data, you guys have expert tooling. It's just that with D10 having massive changes, just wanted to be 100% sure before making any major assumptions that D10 is being put into a secondary role. My daily data always matched your weekly data until this darn redirection stuff started.
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 09:58 PM

Oh, you are lucky with SHEF implementation, before that only USB-Serial dongle was the path to obtain the data.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 09:59 PM

Oh, you are lucky with SHEF implementation, before that only USB-Serial dongle was the path to obtain the data.

Yep, just tried it and it certainly works.
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 10:36 PM

One last bit of sanity, for folks (HoTat2) trying to make sense of all of this...

My 'Channel Counts' are done early in the post-processing sequence. So (just as an example) my count of D10 CONUS channels will include both the final 'CONUS' tab records and also the CONUS records that ultimately end up on the 'Hybrids' tab. A 'push channel' from D10 is a CONUS channel, but will show up within the 'Hybrid' tab.

We have tried to limit the 'CONUS' tab to records which are reasonably received by a normal subscriber. Example: a channel 9xxx CONUS channel that could only be received by a special 'testing access card' is shown as a Hybrid record, not a CONUS record.

Hope this makes sense..............

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 01:55 PM

Here's a network/transponder list pulled from one of my receivers using the http json interface, I'm in Chicago. It does take a while to pull them one by one. It started around 23:00 CDT Oct 20

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 02:01 PM

Well, if you could tell what is STATION_ID means ?

Any chance to compare with gct's table and present a difference only ?




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