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Transponder Maps: Domestic, LatinAm and SkyMex New Data 12/19/2012


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#41 OFFLINE   HoTat2

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 06:06 PM

I would make only on correction... the AM21 is already active in Argentina. It has over 4 months working there. Don't know PR though.


Yeah ... the "LIM22," appears to be the LA version of the AM21.

Rollout seems to have begun last year, first in Peru and then Argentina so far;

From NEXTV LATAM: 8/23/2011 and 9/13/2011

DirecTV Peru launches Off-air-tuner for HD DTT in Lima
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DirecTV Peru launched LIM22 STB fitted with Off-air-tuner that captures HD DTT channels in the city of Lima. The device is installed additionally to the DVR HD STB of clients and enables users to have access to five HD DTT channels currently available in the region.
Users can record and pause DTT HD channel content of: América Televisión, Global TV, TV Perú, Frecuencia Latina and Enlace, Eduardo Catter, DirecTV Peru Commercial Director, informed. Clients who rely on an DVR HD STB and those new clients who request them, will be installed the LIM22 for an additional fee. A small outdoor omnidirectional antenna is installed beside the company’s parabolic antenna to capture free-to-air channels.
The device is available for clients of the following Metropolitan Lima districts: San Borja, Miraflores, Barranco, San Isidro, Surquillo, Magdalena, Jesús María, Pueblo Libre, San Miguel and Santiago de Surco.

http://nextvlatam.co...hd-dtt-in-lima/


DirecTV will launch off-air tuner to receive DTT in Argentina
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Within the following months, DirecTV will launch an off-air-tuner STB to receive DTT channels in Argentina. Therefore, the operator will follow the same line in Peru, where it has recently launched the LIM22 device to capture HD channels in Lima and Callao. Additionally, the next month, the device will be available in Puerto Rico.
According to what the Argentine Página 12 newspaper has confirmed, DirecTV is already testing the device that will also be installed together with its current STBs and that integrates channels directly in the EPG. The cost of the device has not been disclosed yet. The Argentine Digital Terrestrial TV System (SATVD-T in Spanish) currently relies on 15 channels, though reception depends on coverage areas.
In Peru for example, DirecTV subscribers in Lima and Callao have access to five HD free-to-air channels: América Televisión, Global TV, TV Perú, Frecuencia Latina and Enlace. Sky Brazil (whose 93% is owned by DirecTV) also relies on a tuner of this type. Roque Lombardo, DirecTV General Manager in Puerto Rico, has already announced that, as from October, the device will be included in the company’s offer.
“Our idea is to be able to offer our clients the greatest and best quality programming content available in the market”, Guillermo Delfino, DirecTV Argentina Commercial VP, told Página 12. “There will be more and better channels included in Digital TV”. “And DTT provides us with the possibility to rely on these channels without increasing satellite space, which is currently very limited”, he added. However, DirecTV PanAmericana (which includes Argentina) has already hired Intelsat on-board satellite capacity of two satellites that will be launched in 2014 and 2015.
The following are some of the channels included SATVD-T: Pakapaka, Tateti, GolTV, Vivra, VX, IncaaTV, SuriTV, Vesvi, Argentina HD, Construir TV, Encuentro and the new 360TV. The children channel Pakapaka is currently included in DirecTV programming chart, as Encuentro and Telsur - also included in DTT.

http://nextvlatam.co...t-in-argentina/



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Posted 06 August 2012 - 06:18 PM

Isn't DTT is DVB-T standard ?

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 08:51 PM

Isn't DTT is DVB-T standard ?


No AFAIK, "DTT" just means "Digital Terrestrial Television" and is a generic reference to any DTV standard. ATSC, DVB-T, or any others.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 08:58 PM

.... rollout seems to have begun last year, first in Peru and then Argentina so far.


Got a note from egakagoc2xi about this: "In Peru, the announcement was made, drinks were served. And that was the only thing that was done. Nothing at all has happened since that time."


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Posted 06 August 2012 - 09:20 PM

Oh;

So I guess Argentina is indeed the first then; :)
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On another topic gct;

Got any best guesses yet on my earlier post #31 about to the discrepancy between Beam PR's HD transponders 2, 5, and 11 with a LHCP polarization (according to LyngSat) when the FCC file data for G3C shows no such ones exist at those frequencies except for wide-band (54 MHz) ones using linear polarization on the "NA + Puerto Rico" beam?

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 09:38 PM

It's a secret assignment. ;)

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 09:49 PM

---On another topic Got any best guesses yet on my earlier post #31 about to the discrepancy between Beam PR's HD transponders 2, 5, and 11 ...


Just a hint: If you check Lyngsat ( http://www.lyngsat.com/Galaxy-3C.html for instance) you find the "Source" in many cases is a contributor named "P Smith". Very closely related to our "P Smith".
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 09:51 PM

just a coincidence ... similar nick names ... it's happen sometimes ... who knows ? :D

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 10:37 PM

Yeah, I mean I do see a possible hint that they do indeed use those 54 MHz wide-band ones since the 30,000K symbol rate listed for the digital transmissions through those transponders obviously won't fit in the standard 24 MHz wide ones used by the other DLA transponders all listed between only 20,000-21,000K.

But the stated polarization of "linear vertical" on the downlink for them in the FCC data which even includes a schematic diagram of the C and Ku band payloads with that listed for them as well, I can't reconcile. :whatdidid

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 10:43 PM

Nope, these tpns has no more then 36 MHz of real bandwidth.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 10:56 PM

Nope, these tpns has no more then 36 MHz of real bandwidth.


But doesn't a digital transmission with a 30,000K SR usually translate into a 36M0G7W type transmission which can in turn be sent down the center of a 54 MHz wide transponder admittedly with excess BW to spare on either side?

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 11:05 PM

Yes, perhaps you remember DTV DVB-S2D SW-1/2 Ka tpns what does show similarity... while I'm not sure if center freq cannot be shifted.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 11:18 PM

Yes, perhaps you remember DTV DVB-S2D SW-1/2 Ka what does show similarity... while I'm not sure if center freq cannot be shifted.


Yes I see it a similar case with the SWs and their stated 62.5 MHz transponders (non-processor mode).

Here though its a 36 MHz wide digital signal (36M0G7W) sent through a 54 MHz wide transponder since the submitted FCC specs for G3C show no 36 MHz wide transponders for the Ku band payload.

Only 24, 27, and 54 MHz ones.

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 10:31 AM

Any engineer working with the 'pipes' would answer easy to the question, while to us it's require a lot of hassles, guesses, discussion and using expensive equipment.

I'm always curios of the paranoya of classification level satellites' info; when simple data like the bandwidh or parameters of DTH (direct to home) signal keep as Top Secret. No official site provide such detail info for public and FCC docs obscured.many times.

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 03:26 PM

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NEW HD CONUS CHANNELS IN *TEST
NET|NAME|CHL|NOTES0|NOTES1
10|*BBCAHD|264|BBC America HD|BBC AMERICA: Television From the Other Side
10|*NGWHD|283|Nat Geo Wild HD|Nat Geo WILD, closer to animals than ever before
15|*BeINHD|9620|BeIN Sports HD|BeIN Sports HD
15|*DSJRHD|289|Disney Junior HD|Kids 2-7: Disney storytelling, learning and developmental themes
15|*IONEHD|305|ION East HD|ION features hit shows, movies, originals and special events



NEW HD-MARKET ACTIVITY
NET|NAME|CHL|NOTES0|NOTES1
524|*KGET|17|A3 Bakersfield 17 KGET NBC|NBC television services from KGETDT-TV, 17, Bakersfield, CA
524|*KERO|23|A3 Bakersfield 23 KERO ABC|ABC television services from KERODT-TV, 23, Bakersfield, CA
524|*KBAK|29|A3 Bakersfield 29 KBAK CBS|CBS television services from KBAKDT-TV, 29, Bakersfield, CA
524|*KUVI|45|A3 Bakersfield 45 KUVI MNT|MNT television services from KUVIDT-TV, 45, Bakersfield, CA
524|*KBFX|58|A3 Bakersfield 58 KBFX FOX|FOX television services from KBFXDT-TV, 58, Bakersfield, CA



NEW HD-MARKET ACTIVITY
NET|NAME|CHL|NOTES0|NOTES1
641|*KSBW|8|A3 Monterey 08 KSBW NBC|NBC television services from KSBWDT-TV, 08, Monterey, CA
641|*ABC|9|A3 Monterey 09 KSBWDT ABC|ABC television services from KSBWDT2-TV, 09, Monterey, CA
641|*KQET|25|A3 Monterey 25 KQET PBS|PBS television services from KQETDT-TV, 25, Monterey, CA
641|*KCBA|35|A3 Monterey 35 KCBA FOX|FOX television services from KCBADT-TV, 35, Monterey, CA
641|*KION|46|A3 Monterey 46 KION CBS|CBS television services from KIONDT-TV, 46, Monterey, CA
641|*KION|47|A3 Monterey 47 KIONDT CW|CW television services from KIONDT-TV, 47, Monterey, CA
641|*KSMS|67|A3 Monterey 67 KSMS UNI|Univision television services from KSMSDT-TV, 67, Monterey, CA



NEW HD LIL CHANNELS IN *TEST
NET|NAME|CHL|NOTES0|NOTES1
692|*KNPN|26|A3 St. Joseph 26 KNPN FOX|FOX television services from KNPNDT-TV, 26, St. Joseph, MO



NEW HD LIL CHANNELS ACTIVE
None|No New HD LIL Channels In *TEST



NEW SD LIL CHANNELS IN *TEST
None|No New SD LIL Channels In *TEST



NEW SD LIL CHANNELS ACTIVE
None|No New SD LIL Channels Active



HD OR SD LIL CHANNELS REMOVED
None|No HD or SD LIL Channels Removed


Keys in the TPN Map:
  • Channels in the TPN Map whose Names begin
    with an asterisk (*) are in TEST status
  • Channels shaded in blue are MPEG4. All HD channels
    are MPEG4, but SD channels can also be in MPEG4.
  • Complete information, including satellite and TPN assignment
    are detailed in the LIL TPN MAP tab of the TPN MAP Excel.

Edited by gct, 22 August 2012 - 05:03 PM.



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Posted 12 August 2012 - 10:14 AM

How soon do the test markets go live? I've been waiting for the FOX channel for two moths in my market and looks like its getting close to launching. Thanks

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 11:39 AM

How soon do the test markets go live? I've been waiting for the FOX channel for two moths in my market and looks like its getting close to launching. Thanks


There are many answers to the same question coming up on regular basis:
http://www.dbstalk.c...st markets live

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 05:26 PM

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NEW HD CONUS CHANNELS IN *TEST
None|No New HD CONUS Channels In *TEST


NEW HD CONUS CHANNELS ACTIVE
NET|NAME|CHL|NOTES0|NOTES1
15|beINHD|620|BeIN Sports HD|beIN SPORT is the International Sports Network||
10|NGWHD|283|Nat Geo Wild HD|Nat Geo WILD, gets you closer to animals than ever before
15|DSJRHD|289|Disney Junior HD|Kids 2-7 Disney storytelling, learning and developmental themes
10|BBCAHD|264|BBC America HD|BBC AMERICA: Television From the Other Side


NEW HD-MARKET ACTIVITY
None|No New HD LIL MARKETS In *TEST


NEW HD LIL CHANNELS IN *TEST
NET|NAME|CHL|NOTES0|NOTES1
515|*KRTN|33|A3 Albuquerque 33 KRTN IND|Independent services from KRTNDT-TV, 33, Albuquerque, NM
598|*ABC|8|A3 Hattiesburg 08 WDAM ABC|ABC services from WDAMDT2-TV, 08, Hattiesburg, MS



NEW HD LIL CHANNELS ACTIVE
None|No New HD LIL Channels In *TEST


NEW SD LIL CHANNELS IN *TEST
NET|NAME|CHL|NOTES0|NOTES1
515|*KRTN|33|Albuquerque-SF KRTN 33 IND|Independent services from KRTN-TV, 33, Albuquerque, NM


NEW SD LIL CHANNELS ACTIVE
None|No New SD LIL Channels Active


HD OR SD LIL CHANNELS REMOVED
None|No HD or SD LIL Channels Removed


CHANNEL SWAP
ACTION|NET|NAME|CHL|NOTES0|NOTES1
ACTIVE|693|*KNLC|24|A3 Saint Louis 24 KNLC IND|Independent services from KNLCDT-TV, 24, Saint Louis, MO
REMOVE|693|*WRBU|46|A3 Saint Louis ST 46 WRBU MNT|MNT services from WRBUDT-TV, 46, St. Louis, MO



Keys in the TPN Map:

  • Channels in the TPN Map whose Names begin
    with an asterisk (*) are in TEST status
  • Channels shaded in blue are MPEG4. All HD channels
    are MPEG4, but SD channels can also be in MPEG4

Edited by gct, 15 August 2012 - 05:31 PM.



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Posted 22 August 2012 - 04:47 PM

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NEW HD CONUS CHANNELS IN *TEST
None|No New HD CONUS Channels In *TEST

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NEW HD CONUS CHANNELS ACTIVE
None|No New HD CONUS Channels Active

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NEW HD-MARKET ACTIVITY
None|No New HD LIL MARKETS In *TEST

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NEW HD LIL CHANNELS IN *TEST
NET|NAME|CHL|NOTES0|NOTES1
658|*WACP|4|A3 Philadelphia 04 WACP IND|Independent services from WACPDT-TV, 04, Philadelphia, PA

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NEW HD LIL CHANNELS ACTIVE **NEW HD DMA: LAFAYETTE, LA**
NET|NAME|CHL|NOTES0|NOTES1
615|KATC|3|A3 Lafayette, LA 03 KATC ABC|ABC services from KATCDT-TV, 03, Lafayette, LA
615|*WLBT|7|A3 Lafayette, LA 07 WLBT NBC|NBC services from WLBTDT-TV, 07, Lafayette, LA
615|WLBT|7|Lafayette, LA WLBT 7 (Virt)|For NBC tune to Ch. 33
615|KLFY|10|A3 Lafayette, LA 10 KLFY CBS|CBS services from KLFYDT-TV, 10, Lafayette, LA
615|KADN|15|A3 Lafayette, LA 15 KADN FOX|FOX services from KADNDT-TV, 15, Lafayette, LA
615|KLPB|24|A3 Lafayette, LA 24 KLPB PBS Vir|PBS services from KLPBDT-TV, 24, Lafayette, LA
615|*KLPB|24|A3 Lafayette, LA 24 KLPB PBS|PBS services from KLPBDT-TV, 24, Lafayette, LA
615|WVLA|33|A3 Lafayette, LA 33 WVLA NBC Vir|NBC services from WVLADT-TV, 33, Lafayette, LA
615|*KLWB|50|A3 Lafayette, LA 50 KLWB IND|Independent services from KLWBDT-TV, 50, Lafayette, LA

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NEW HD LIL CHANNELS ACTIVE
NET|NAME|CHL|NOTES0|NOTES1
515|KTFQ|14|A3 Albuquerque 14 KTFQ TFT|Telefutura services from KTFQDT-TV, 14, Albuquerque, NM
515|KASY|50|A3 Albuquerque 50 KASY MNT|MNT services from KASYDT-TV, 50, Albuquerque, NM

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NEW SD LIL CHANNELS IN *TEST
NET|NAME|CHL|NOTES0|NOTES1
658|*WACP|4|Philadelphia WACP 04 IND|Independent services from WACP-TV, 04, Philadelphia, PA

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NEW SD LIL CHANNELS ACTIVE
NET|NAME|CHL|NOTES0|NOTES1
515|KRTN|33|Albuquerque-SF KRTN 33 IND|Independent services from KRTN-TV, 33, Albuquerque, NM
580|WANA|16|Ft. Myers-Naples WANA 16 AZA|AZA services from WANA-TV, 16, Ft. Myers-Naples

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HD OR SD LIL CHANNELS REMOVED
None|No HD or SD LIL Channels Removed

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CHANNEL SWAP
ACTION|NET|NAME|CHL|NOTES0|NOTES1
ACTIVE|598|ABC|8|A3 Hattiesburg 08 WDAM ABC|ABC services from WDAMDT2-TV, 08, Hattiesburg, MS
REMOVED|598|ABC|26|A3 Hattiesburg 26 ABC Virtual|ABC services from WABC-TV, New York

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Keys in the TPN Map:
  • Channels in the TPN Map whose Names begin
    with an asterisk (*) are in TEST status
  • Channels shaded in blue are MPEG4. All HD channels
    are MPEG4, but SD channels can also be in MPEG4.
  • Complete information including Satellite and TPN assignment
    is detailed in the ‘LIL’ tab of the TPN MAP Excel.

EDIT: 8/27 -additional changes added, in addition to Lafayette, LA new HD LIL DMA

Edited by gct, 06 March 2013 - 11:34 PM.



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Posted 22 August 2012 - 04:56 PM

Anomalies with today's Network 615, Lafayette, LA data:


  • Line 2: *WLBT indicates WLBT mpeg4 still in *TEST mode
  • Line 3: WLBT SD (mpeg2) indicates "tune to channel 33"
  • Line 7: *KLPB indicates KLPB mpeg4 still in *TEST mode, but line 6 shows KLPB mpeg4 Virtual already in operation
  • Line 9: *KLWB indicates KLWB mpeg4 still in *TEST mode
This all makes great sense to the Lafayette folks?





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