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Posted 07 September 2012 - 10:02 AM

Interesting!

I wanted to play with that myself... but I can't get it to work.

I entered in "xxx.xxx.x.xxx:8080/serial/processCommand?cmd=FA83" in the address bar and all I got was:



I subsituted xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx for a bunch of numbers that I wasn't sure I wanted publicly or not.

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We don't need the long string - just parse it in Notepad (make new line after each few bytes - that mean start parsing by hands :) ) as HoTat2 did in post#134 and post first part with relevant info :

"00 07" The major Hi/Lo tuned channel number (in this case ch. 7 KABC local)

"FF FF" minor Hi/Lo channel number (unused in this instance)

"10" Channel type tuned to ("10" means its an HD channel)

"09" The audio channel type ("09" means its AC3 in/outut)

"FF" Data type ("FF" means None)

1030 Video PID

1032 Audio PID

FFFF Data PID ("FFFF" means none)

000A Network number (means #10 or the CONUS beam from 99c)

7E TID (#126)

13 Years after 1993
09 Month
07 Day of Month
05 Hours
1F Minutes
1C Seconds
05 Day of Week


53 Signal Strength (83)


In bold above I marked the relevant info (HEX values). Please copy these without your altering.

Edited by P Smith, 07 September 2012 - 10:22 AM.


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Posted 07 September 2012 - 10:05 AM

That's what I used to use. I think that's why I was wondering why I would need a USB to serial dongle at the laptop connected to another USB to serial dongle at the HR24.

I wonder if all the serial commands are implemented. I know I had it saved as a favorite on my old iPhone so I could check the signal strength during storms.

You didn't read my posts ...

I said : Or using some program what could retrieve the data using TCP/IP connection...

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 10:06 AM

Just checked;

You may also substitute FA90 at the end of the URL to get the Signal Strength reading directly (00-64) for any given tuned channel.

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 10:08 AM

I did mention: use MD-0058 PDF file for read how to use the commands.

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 10:22 AM

I did mention: use MD-0058 PDF file for read how to use the commands.


Or for quick access to those who want to study it;

The only thing is I don't know if there is a way to use the URL to enter additional parameters other than the default value of "none" implicitly encoded into the URL to get the Multi-Tuner ("MT") commands listed in the later part of the document to work.

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 10:41 AM

COOL BEANS!!!


WALB (DMA #150, Network #513, Market #2)

"016A" The major Hi/Lo tuned channel number (in this case ch. 10 WALB local)

"FF FF" minor Hi/Lo channel number (unused in this instance)

"10" Channel type tuned to ("10" means its an MPEG4 channel)

"09" The audio channel type ("09" means its AC3 in/outut)

"FF" Data type ("FF" means None)

1010 Video PID

1012 Audio PID

FFFF Data PID ("FFFF" means none)

000F Network number (means xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)

81 TID (xxxx)

13 Years after 1993
09 Month
07 Day of Month
0F Hours
34 Minutes
10 Seconds
05 Day of Week

59 Signal Strength (89)


GPB (virtual DMA #150, Network #513, Market #2) (real DMA #50, Network 607, Market #96)

"000E" The major Hi/Lo tuned channel number (in this case ch. 14 virtual local (GPB) channel)

"FF FF" minor Hi/Lo channel number (unused in this instance)

"10" Channel type tuned to ("10" means its an MPEG4 channel)

"09" The audio channel type ("09" means its AC3 in/outut)

"FF" Data type ("FF" means None)

1020 Video PID

1022 Audio PID

FFFF Data PID ("FFFF" means none)

000E Network number (means xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)

97 TID (xxxx)

13 Years after 1993
09 Month
07 Day of Month
10 Hours
11 Minutes
2A Seconds
05 Day of Week

E14E Signal Strength (??????????)


*WTLF (DMA #106, Network #695, Market #184)

"0018" The major Hi/Lo tuned channel number (in this case ch. 24 neighboring local CW (*WTLF) testing channel)

"FF FF" minor Hi/Lo channel number (unused in this instance)

"10" Channel type tuned to ("10" means its an MPEG4 channel)

"09" The audio channel type ("09" means its AC3 in/outut)

"FF" Data type ("FF" means None)

1060 Video PID

1062 Audio PID

FFFF Data PID ("FFFF" means none)

000E Network number (means xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)

39 TID (xxxx)

13 Years after 1993
09 Month
07 Day of Month
10 Hours
1B Minutes
1C Seconds
05 Day of Week

E15E Signal Strength (??????????)


WLTZ-DT2 (DMA #127, Network #558, Market #47)

"0027" The major Hi/Lo tuned channel number (in this case ch. 39 neighboring local CW (WLTZ-DT2) channel)

"FF FF" minor Hi/Lo channel number (unused in this instance)

"10" Channel type tuned to ("10" means its an MPEG4 channel)

"09" The audio channel type ("09" means its AC3 in/outut)

"FF" Data type ("FF" means None)

1040 Video PID

1042 Audio PID

FFFF Data PID ("FFFF" means none)

000E Network number (means xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)

46 TID (xxxx)

13 Years after 1993
09 Month
07 Day of Month
10 Hours
24 Minutes
09 Seconds
05 Day of Week

5F Signal Strength (??????????)


Edited by Alan Gordon, 07 September 2012 - 12:02 PM.


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Posted 07 September 2012 - 10:53 AM

COOL BEANS!!!
WALB (DMA #150, Network #513, Market #2)
GPB (virtual DMA #150, Network #513, Market #2) (real DMA #50, Network 607, Market #96)
*WTLF (DMA #106, Network #695, Market #184)
WLTZ-DT2 (DMA #127, Network #558, Market #47)

Could you please delete irrelevant numbers ? At least present it as one row per channel ? Same format as gct or as in my post above.
It's hard to use ... Thank.

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 10:55 AM

Or for quick access to those who want to study it;
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URL would be enough ;).
It was posted here many times .... See that DTV Tips and Trick main post

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 10:58 AM

You didn't read my posts ...

I said : Or using some program what could retrieve the data using TCP/IP connection...


Like... Internet Explorer, Safari, Chrome....


I could foresee writing a script that does it. I bet that's how some of this stuff is done. Script to store the data, send a channel change, retrieve the data again, store it... Rinse and repeat. Is that how Sixto does it?

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 11:03 AM

Like... Internet Explorer, Safari, Chrome....


I could foresee writing a script that does it. I bet that's how some of this stuff is done. Script to store the data, send a channel change, retrieve the data again, store it... Rinse and repeat. Is that how Sixto does it?


So, you did read it finally ? :D Good...

Yes. Any Inet browser will do.
No, Doctor J, gct and Sixto doing they job different way. But we could use your help (really ? where is your numbers ?) to verify parsing algos for system tables.

And , yeah - in that script you forgot very important step - tune to a channel first, then query info about it. Kidding - it's just to show you in return how no reading post and reply does lead to nowhere ...

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 11:14 AM

Some notes on Alan's post;

Since the Signal Strength can only be two hexadecimal digits

WALB"s 59 Signal Strength should be "89"

GPB's E14E Signal Strength is probably "4E" for an SS level of 78. The "E1" part possibly the last two digits of your access card number you mistakingly parsed in.

Same for *WTLF where "E15E" should be just "5E" for an SS reading of 94.

and WLTZ-DT2 SS reading of "5F" means a 95 level.

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 11:57 AM

Could you please delete irrelevant numbers ? At least present it as one row per channel ? Same format as gct or as in my post above.
It's hard to use ... Thank.


Per your request, I tightened it up. :)

Some notes on Alan's post;

Since the Signal Strength can only be two hexadecimal digits

WALB"s 59 Signal Strength should be "89"

GPB's E14E Signal Strength is probably "4E" for an SS level of 78. The "E1" part possibly the last two digits of your access card number you mistakingly parsed in.

Same for *WTLF where "E15E" should be just "5E" for an SS reading of 94.

and WLTZ-DT2 SS reading of "5F" means a 95 level.


WALB was my bad... when I C/P'ed the layout.

As for GPB, the CAM is digits only, and 1 is not one of the final two digits. I also carefully counted out the number of digits in the access card and RID. Those were extra. Ditto for *WTLF.

Also... one correction... the part about "Channel type tuned to ("10" means its an HD channel)" is apparently a mistake. That should just mean that it's an MPEG4 channel, right?!

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 12:01 PM

Well, you don't get :)
Let me show what would be more pleas-able to review:

ch	net	tid	ss	note
0027	000E	46	5F	WLTZ-DT2 (DMA #127, Network #558, Market #47)

and so on

instead of:

"0027" The major Hi/Lo tuned channel number (in this case ch. 39 neighboring local CW (WLTZ-DT2) channel)

"FF FF" minor Hi/Lo channel number (unused in this instance)

"10" Channel type tuned to ("10" means its an HD channel)

"09" The audio channel type ("09" means its AC3 in/outut)

"FF" Data type ("FF" means None)

1040 Video PID

1042 Audio PID

FFFF Data PID ("FFFF" means none)

000E Network number (means xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)

46 TID (xxxx)

13 Years after 1993
09 Month
07 Day of Month
10 Hours
24 Minutes
09 Seconds
05 Day of Week

5F



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Posted 07 September 2012 - 12:19 PM

Well, you don't get :)
Let me show what would be more pleas-able to review:


How about this?

CHANNEL|NETWORK|TID|SS|STATION|NOTES1|NOTES2
016A|000F|81|59|WALB|HD A3 Albany, GA 10 WALB-DT NBC|(DMA #150, Network #513, Market #2)
000E|000E|97|4E|GPB|HD A3 Albany, GA 14 GPB*|(virtual DMA #150, Network #513, Market #2) (real DMA #50, Network 607, Market #96)
0018|000E|39|5E|*WTLF|HD A3 Tallahassee, FL 24 The CW|(DMA #106, Network #695, Market #184)
0027|000E|46|5F|CW|SD A3 Columbus, GA 39 WLTZ-DT2, The CW|(DMA #127, Network #558, Market #47)

*Remap of Jacksonville, FL's WXGA-DT's #8 (DMA #50, Network 607, Market #96).

A list of my local channels:

CHANNEL|NETWORK|TID|SS|STATION|NOTES1|NOTES2
000A|000E|35|58|WALB-DT|HD A3 Albany, GA 10 NBC|(DMA #150, Network #513, Market #2)
000B|000E|35|58|WALB-DT2 (ABC)|SD A3 Albany, GA 11 ABC|(DMA #150, Network 607, Market #96)
000E|000E|97|4D|WABW (PBS/GPB)|HD A3 Albany, GA 14 GPB*|(virtual DMA #150, Network #513, Market #2)
0011|000E|35|5B|WSWG-DT3 (CW)|SD A3 Albany, GA 17 CW|(DMA #150, Network 607, Market #96)
001F|000E|35|59|WFXL-DT|HD A3 Albany, GA 31 FOX|(DMA #150, Network 607, Market #96)
002C|000E|35|55|WSWG-DT|HD A3 Albany, GA 44 CBS|(DMA #150, Network 607, Market #96)
0037|000E|35|59|WSST-DT|SD A3 Albany, GA 55 IND|(DMA #150, Network 607, Market #96)

*Remap of Jacksonville, FL's WXGA's #8 (DMA #50, Network 607, Market #96).

~Alan

Edited by Alan Gordon, 07 September 2012 - 02:15 PM.


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Posted 07 September 2012 - 12:36 PM

Pefect !

One last twitch - SS is one byte. The "E1" should be removed (sanity check rule: values out of 00...64h and second byte must be cut out). Personally I would preface such tables with a note: all numbers are hex-decimal.

And final point: before giving it out: compare it with cgt's table and post it if you see discrepancy or your info is newest.

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 12:39 PM

Pefect !

One last twitch - SS is one byte. The "E1" should be removed (sanity check rule: values out of 00...64h and second byte must be cut out).


The only reason I left them in, is because as I stated earlier, the E1 were extra information that the other two did not have, so I wasn't sure where to stick them.

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 12:42 PM

Please do not include it as meaningless for SS value.

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 12:44 PM

Alan,
So, now major question: what the reason for informing us by the table ?
Or it was just exercise for new excitement of tricks with DVR ? ;)

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 12:52 PM

Alan,
So, now major question: what the reason for informing us by the table ?
Or it was just exercise for new excitement of tricks with DVR ? ;)


I thought it was cool... wanted to see if I could figure out how to use it, so I checked the data for channels from three markets, and one virtual channel.

It's still mostly Greek to me of course, and I'm probably going to lose sleep over why "E1" was listed in the results for those two channels and not the other two, but now I have a (very) basic understanding of how to read parts of the data anyway.

I'd like to see Go Beavs try it now.... :D

~Alan

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 01:05 PM

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Also... one correction... the part about "Channel type tuned to ("10" means its an HD channel)" is apparently a mistake. That should just mean that it's an MPEG4 channel, right?!

~Alan


Right ....

But it wasn't my idea ... :sure:

From the document for that data byte:

0x0B Data
0x0C Audio
0x0E Retired
0x0F Video - TV
0x10 Video - HDTV
0xFF None


Though I should have surmised as much as it reflects the shortcoming in the regular TPN Map posted by gct where the data stream can indicate whether or not a program is in MPEG-4 (the "shaded" entires) but not whether the content is HD or SD.

Therefore, perhaps the document should better read for this byte as;

0x0B Data
0x0C Audio
0x0E Retired
0x0F Video - MPEG-2, only SDTV today
0x10 Video - MPEG-4 encoded HD or SD
0xFF None






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