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DirecTV/Viacom Dispute?


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#181 OFFLINE   cjrleimer

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 11:25 AM

No. People are voicing their opinion on this matter ("Drop em!"), and their reasoning behind it ("I don't watch em!"). The motivation is to show support of DirecTV's argument that they need to fight to keep costs down.

You're free to disagree and weigh in on the matter, but it is not fair to call people who don't share your viewpoint "stupid and selfish".


+1, I mean we can all address this issue civilly and without bashing one another. Personally, this dispute has been the most controversial because of the fact that their was no notice on this, and it kind of reminds me of Dish's dispute in 2004 with these guys. With that said, lets see what happens between now and Midnight tonight et, or pt as I dont know when will they pull the plug.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 11:27 AM

I think it's midnight local time.
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 11:27 AM

We're already getting TCM in a few days.


I should have mention that I get the Spanish package and don't get those two plus a few others. Espndeportes would be nice in HD.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 11:31 AM

smart move Viacom; take your programming away from 20 million people; that sounds like a great plan
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 11:31 AM

… That puts Directv, Dish, Uverse,Fios, and everyone else in the position of either raising rates above 5% each year just to stay even with programming costs, don't raise the rates that high and continue to shrink margins ( resulting in less infrastructure expansion, new technologies, etc) or getting the programmers to charge a reasonable rate.


Sounds like more cable-television providers, and not just DirecTV, need to take this tactic of saying a big "*F* you" to the companies and their programming owners. Viacom, and other owners, need the providers.

I'm with DirecTV on this. Perhaps how AMC Networks and Dish Network dealt with each other is the way to go between Viacom and DirecTV. Those channels will be back on Dish Network just as the ones will be (whether or not a loss, for even a sec, will be had) on DirecTV.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 11:39 AM

No. People are voicing their opinion on this matter ("Drop em!"), and their reasoning behind it ("I don't watch em!"). The motivation is to show support of DirecTV's argument that they need to fight to keep costs down.

You're free to disagree and weigh in on the matter, but it is not fair to call people who don't share your viewpoint "stupid and selfish".


It's one thing to say that since you don't watch a channel, you would be okay if the channel(s) was/were dropped, but just because one person doesn't care about a channel doesn't mean that others don't, so I don't think it's a very fair thing to say that they SHOULD drop them.

There are multiple channels on DirecTV that I don't like, and be just fine if they were dropped, but I realize others like those channels, and they may not like mine.

For instance, my #1 want in HD is CW HD-DNS, and I'd personally accept the possibility of DirecTV dropping the ESPNs in HD in order to add them, but I suspect most people would have a problem with that! ;)

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 11:44 AM

I am in the same boat as Alan. I mean I dont watch the BS shopping channels, and some other channels, but I understand the others that watch them. We all have different tastes, and we need to realize that one persons interests are not the same as others. With my viewing habits, I probably watch a few channels religiously, and some I watch on a casual yet frequent basis.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 11:44 AM

smart move Viacom; take your programming away from 20 million people; that sounds like a great plan


Viacom knows that they will be suffering a lot less than DirecTv will. There is no way DirecTv can keep the Nick channels off for very long before customers start switching to other providers.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 11:45 AM

I picked this choice of Directtv because it includes all the channels I watch. (Except the Tennis Channel.) As for the rest of the channels, they come with the package along with Viacom channels all the many many info commercial stations and the many many religious stations I don't watch. There's a lot about the TV lineups I can complain about other then this one.

It never seems to get better. I had cable for many years and they kept raising the bill and dropping channels to a tier I didn't have and finally I switched to satellite.

It won't take much more for me to drop TV altogether. I already pay too much for it as it is. I really don't want to do it anymore.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 11:55 AM

Don't forget, V'com makes more money on its advertising than its carriage fees. Their advertisers will be quite unhappy if they lose all those eyeballs. Seems to me like V has more to lose than d*... just saying.
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 11:57 AM

lola - streaming over the internet is your friend.

DirecTV - did you hire Charlie?

Wow - this never would have happened in the Hughes days....

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 11:59 AM

Viacom knows that they will be suffering a lot less than DirecTv will. There is no way DirecTv can keep the Nick channels off for very long before customers start switching to other providers.


Actually that's part of Viacom's problem.

Your kid really likes Sponge Bob? He can fire up the Roku or the Blu-ray player and watch it over Netflix. He probably already is.

Comedy Centrals Colbert and Daily Show are available on Hulu. Of course much of their audience already knows that and has switched over and watches it when it's convenient for them.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 12:05 PM

Don't forget, V'com makes more money on its advertising than its carriage fees. Their advertisers will be quite unhappy if they lose all those eyeballs. Seems to me like V has more to lose than d*... just saying.


Totally agree.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 12:05 PM

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 12:06 PM

Wow - this never would have happened in the Hughes days....


Possibly not... I remember when I started to switch to Dish Network years ago... partially because ABC Family was threatening to pull.

However, the main reason is because the channel groups have been more aggressive with price increases compared to the way they were back then.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 12:07 PM

I am also sick on people who say drop them as I don't watch them. Well how about we drop the programming YOU watch and see how YOU like it!

Why does buy bill have to be so high, to pay the CRAP that you watch? Same with you paying for the CRAP that I watch, LOL!

THIS is why everyone needs to pull their head out of their backsides and offer Ala carte programming. I know people that HATE sports, but they bills are much higher to support ESPN and what not.

So, please keep yoru "drop them as I don't care" crap to yourself!

And lease don't go there with the parenting stuff and what not about TV. How many of you here have NO LIFE and watch nothing BUT TV with 10 DVRs and what not? Please don't be judgmental.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 12:10 PM

I should have mention that I get the Spanish package and don't get those two plus a few others. Espndeportes would be nice in HD.


That should ONLY be on a Spanish package, not regular programming, sorry! :mad:

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 12:11 PM

The sad part is, the programing will stay and our bill WILL go up.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 12:11 PM

I have a feeling all these dirty laundry contract negotiations and programming blackouts are going to come back to haunt the programmers. Some politico looking to get his name in the press is bound to take this on and bring a la carte to fruition one and for all...
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 12:12 PM

Viacom knows that they will be suffering a lot less than DirecTv will. There is no way DirecTv can keep the Nick channels off for very long before customers start switching to other providers.


I am not so sure. Customers might start switching, but not for a few weeks..... They will have to find out what their options are, whether there is a contract to buy out, and many customers rather wait a few weeks to see how things play out.

I'd be surprised if they lost more than a few thousand customers before August 1st. If there still is no contract by then, chances are a lot higher customers will switch.

Although many customers don't understand the carriage disputes, I do believe they do understand that every carrier has them. Fleeing to another carrier isn't going to make that go away. TWC had the same dispute with Viacom in January 2010 and took the channels away for about a week. (or the other way around, the feeds were pulled). Other carriers will have these kinds of disputes as well.
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