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DirecTV/Viacom Dispute?


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#251 OFFLINE   inkahauts

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 02:54 PM

I really don't think DirecTV carries 26 of their channels..

I am coming up with: MTV, Nick, Comedy Central, BET, VH1, Spike, TV Land, CMT, Logo, MTV 2, VH1 Classic, Centric, Palladia, Nick Jr, Nicktoons, TeenNick.

It looks like they are starting to put Alert channels under each channel in the guide so I'll scroll through and see if I missed any.

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Edit: Missed MTV t3es


I'd guess they are counting Hi Definition and sd feeds both.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 02:55 PM

I'd guess they are counting Hi Definition and sd feeds both.


Yeah, that's what they did. Had to make their channel counts sound more dramatic.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 02:55 PM

You realize where DIRECTV's money comes from, right?


It is sarcasm Stuart. Simply parroting what a handful here say whenever someone posts about negotiating with D* for lower rates or deals.
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 02:56 PM

You're joking right? :lol:


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Posted 10 July 2012 - 02:57 PM

I'd guess they are counting Hi Definition and sd feeds both.


MTV SD is 1 channel. MTV HD is 1 channel. The REAL fun one is Nickelodeon. Nick SD is 1 channel. Nick HD is one channel. Nick at Nite SD is 1 channel. Nick at Nite HD is 1 channel. So they basically call 1 actual channel 4 channels lol

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 03:02 PM

Yes. I'll edit with a Smilie.


I thought so. :)
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 03:04 PM

Personally, I have a nasty solution to this.

Step 1: Drop all Viacom channels from the base packages then lower the cost of said packages by whatever amount it used to cost to keep them.

Step 2: Make Viacom a premium channel service like HBO, Showtime, Etc. then let them raise the price. See how many subscribers they get then.

Just my $0.02 :evilgrin:

Doubt it will happen though. :rolleyes:

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 03:05 PM

If these channels are pulled, even for a day, I am dropping Directv. We are a Nick household.

Directv already pissed me off, with the Sunbeam television dispute earlier this year. (We lost our FOX station for a week, during NFL playoffs, and lost Idol.)
I did not appreciate being used as 'leverage'.

I will not stand for it again.

(And also annoyed that Directv has made zero effort to add Disney Junior to the lineup.)

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 03:06 PM

I feel sorry for all the CSRs at Directv that are having to deal with the tons of phone calls into Directv that this is probably generating. And if these channels do go dark, it's going to get even worse.
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 03:07 PM

MTV SD is 1 channel. MTV HD is 1 channel. The REAL fun one is Nickelodeon. Nick SD is 1 channel. Nick HD is one channel. Nick at Nite SD is 1 channel. Nick at Nite HD is 1 channel. So they basically call 1 actual channel 4 channels lol


more like 6 when you count west
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 03:08 PM

If these channels are pulled, even for a day, I am dropping Directv. We are a Nick household.

Directv already pissed me off, with the Sunbeam television dispute earlier this year. (We lost our FOX station for a week, during NFL playoffs, and lost Idol.)
I did not appreciate being used as 'leverage'.

I will not stand for it again.

(And also annoyed that Directv has made zero effort to add Disney Junior to the lineup.)


Are you under a contract? You'll be a large fee if you are. Also, whether you go to Dish Network, cable, or some other company, this will come up with them as well. Dish just dropped AMC, WE, some others. Our local cable company just dropped our local ABC. There's no way you're going to be immune from this unless you completely cut the cable and go with OTA/streaming.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 03:10 PM

If these channels are pulled, even for a day, I am dropping Directv. We are a Nick household.

Directv already pissed me off, with the Sunbeam television dispute earlier this year. (We lost our FOX station for a week, during NFL playoffs, and lost Idol.)
I did not appreciate being used as 'leverage'.

I will not stand for it again.

(And also annoyed that Directv has made zero effort to add Disney Junior to the lineup.)


You DO realize that each provider goes through this at one time or another? Cable, Dish, Direct, UVerse, it doesn't matter. I wouldn't pretend to tell you what to watch. And I certainly make my own decision on a provider based on what channels are available. But don't think you're getting away from this kind of nonsense by switching providers.

My personal prediction is that if they don't get a deal done by tonight, the channels will be pulled by Viacom and will be off for about a week. That's not enough time to get another provider in, learn the equipment, and get back to where you were with DirecTV.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 03:13 PM

Are you under a contract? You'll be a large fee if you are. Also, whether you go to Dish Network, cable, or some other company, this will come up with them as well. Dish just dropped AMC, WE, some others. Our local cable company just dropped our local ABC. There's no way you're going to be immune from this unless you completely cut the cable and go with OTA/streaming.


I am not under contract. And I don't mind switching to yet another provider if and when this happens again elsewhere. I want the CONTENT, and don't give a rat's *** who's providing it. While I'd prefer not to, if I have to jump around between providers endlessly, so be it.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 03:15 PM

I am not under contract. And I don't mind switching to yet another provider if and when this happens yet again elsewhere. I want the CONTENT, and don't give a rat's *** who's providing it.


If you switch to Dish, you WILL be under a contract. What will you do next year when they drop one of your favorite channels? Don't know if cable has contracts if your area (Time Warner doesn't here), but more than likely, PQ is going to suffer, and you'll probably have to use their sub par equipment.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 03:15 PM

If these channels are pulled, even for a day, I am dropping Directv. We are a Nick household.

Directv already pissed me off, with the Sunbeam television dispute earlier this year. (We lost our FOX station for a week, during NFL playoffs, and lost Idol.)
I did not appreciate being used as 'leverage'.

I will not stand for it again.

(And also annoyed that Directv has made zero effort to add Disney Junior to the lineup.)


Do you know who starts these disputes? I'll give you a hint:

Directv isn't pulling channels in order to pay LESS money to the providers than they are already getting. To add to that.. do you think it does Directv any favors to 'leverage' negotiations by dropping channels?

Think about it for just a second..
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 03:16 PM

If these channels are pulled, even for a day, I am dropping Directv. We are a Nick household.

Directv already pissed me off, with the Sunbeam television dispute earlier this year. (We lost our FOX station for a week, during NFL playoffs, and lost Idol.)
I did not appreciate being used as 'leverage'.

I will not stand for it again.

(And also annoyed that Directv has made zero effort to add Disney Junior to the lineup.)


And the cost doesn't matter at all? If the programmers had they're way, we'd be paying $300-$400 a month BEFORE Directv added in any of their fees. Directv is trying to prevent this from happening.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 03:18 PM

I am not under contract. And I don't mind switching to yet another provider if and when this happens again elsewhere. I want the CONTENT, and don't give a rat's *** who's providing it. While I'd prefer not to, if I have to jump around between providers endlessly, so be it.



My question is what are your providers in your area, and what is their track record in these because as another poster said, " it happens to everyone". Welcome to 2012 tv in which disputes rule, and costs go ape you know what.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 03:19 PM

This thread and the Viacom page at Facebook is full of "I'm leaving Directv if these channels are dropped!" I always laugh at these comments.

First, any TV provider should fight for the lowest possible carriage fees. If I started a cable/satellite/FIOS TV provider today and decided that I would offer every channel available no matter what the cost, what would the monthly charge be to the customer? $500? $1000? Who would pay that?

Second, this is not an isolated Directv issue. No current TV provider is immune to contract disputes and channels being dropped because of them.

If this Viacom/Directv dispute lasts longer than even one week, this might be the final straw and the government might step in. They didn't care about the Directv/Versus dispute or the Dish/MSG dispute, but this drop will include some very popular channels.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 03:21 PM

This thread and the Viacom page at Facebook is full of "I'm leaving Directv if these channels are dropped!" I always laugh at these comments.

First, any TV provider should fight for the lowest possible carriage fees. If I started a cable/satellite/FIOS TV provider today and decided that I would offer every channel available no matter what the cost, what would the monthly charge be to the customer? $500? $1000? Who would pay that?

Second, this is not an isolated Directv issue. No current TV provider is immune to contract disputes and channels being dropped because of them.

If this Viacom/Directv dispute lasts longer than even one week, this might be the final straw and the government might step in. They didn't care about the Directv/Versus dispute or the Dish/MSG dispute, but this drop will include some very popular channels.


If the government gets involved, I am sure the politicians will use it as grand standing as they are bought and paid for by the media conglomorates.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 03:22 PM

I am not under contract. And I don't mind switching to yet another provider if and when this happens again elsewhere. I want the CONTENT, and don't give a rat's *** who's providing it. While I'd prefer not to, if I have to jump around between providers endlessly, so be it.


So you'd be fine with DirecTV giving Viacom what they want and raising our bills to make up for it? Yeah, you need to go to another provider alright.
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 03:22 PM

I don't give a flying F who's responsible for these disputes.... The bottom line is, these things need to be negotiated behind the scenes well in advance, and not at the last second in this manner. If you want to stand behind Directv during this stalemate, go right ahead. I am not.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 03:23 PM

So you'd be fine with DirecTV giving Viacom what they want and raising our bills to make up for it? Yeah, you need to go to another provider alright.


Yes. I can afford it.

You see, I work hard and don't waste all my time racking up 11,000 posts on a silly web site.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 03:24 PM

If these channels are pulled, even for a day, I am dropping Directv. We are a Nick household.

Directv already pissed me off, with the Sunbeam television dispute earlier this year. (We lost our FOX station for a week, during NFL playoffs, and lost Idol.)
I did not appreciate being used as 'leverage'.

I will not stand for it again.

(And also annoyed that Directv has made zero effort to add Disney Junior to the lineup.)


If you're upset about being used a leverage and you swtich companies then you're proving to the content providers that it works. Neither company wants to turn off the stations but it's the trump card the content providers can call. It starts costing the companies that distribute the content money from having to have extra staff, deal with customer's calling in, having customer's threaten to leave, having customer's actually leave, add subs go down due to people holding off ordering, and other cost factors.


I don't give a flying F who's responsible for these disputes.... The bottom line is, these things need to be negotiated behind the scenes well in advance, and not at the last second in this manner. If you want to stand behind Directv during this stalemate, go right ahead. I am not.



These have been being negotiated for a long time behind closed doors. It's already been reported that the official contract ended on 6/30 but had been extended. This only happens when both companies are happy with how things are going and feel that they are close to a deal. This last minute issue is for whatever reason Viacom feels they can do this to press whatever issue they're holding up.


My advice to you is if you switch companies I wouldn't get too comfortable with them because this is becoming the SOP of the big players. They're going to force channels to go dark to get their concessions. So good luck in whatever you choose.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 03:24 PM

Yes. I can afford it.


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Posted 10 July 2012 - 03:24 PM

I don't give a flying F who's responsible for these disputes.... The bottom line is, these things need to be negotiated behind the scenes well in advance, and not at the last second in this manner. If you want to stand behind Directv during this stalemate, go right ahead. I am not.


So Directv should just accept ANY deal that is throw it's way? What if Viacom said it wanted $3 billion? Just take it and pass it on to us?




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