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DirecTV/Viacom Dispute?


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#2941 OFFLINE   Old_School

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:00 AM

Tr3s and Centric? I didn't even know they existed...or what they are!


Centric IMO is basically viacoms version of BET

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#2942 OFFLINE   RunnerFL

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:00 AM

So all in all I missed the following:

1 Episode of Tosh.0
1 Episode of Workaholics
2 Episodes of Futurama

And guess what? They are all on again within the next couple of days. Just as I thought, I missed nothing. :)
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#2943 OFFLINE   Pepe Sylvia

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:05 AM

Centric IMO is basically viacoms version of BET


It's actually BET 2 basically (I think it used to be BET something, but I don't remember. BET IS a Viacom channel.

#2944 OFFLINE   zimm7778

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:05 AM

I think there should be some petition to show Directv that we subscribers would like to pay more to receive Epix as long as it's all the channels and not just one or two....Don't let it be like Cinemax in the past when they offered just three channels at full price. Do you think this would be a good idea or no?


If you mean stand alone premium, fine. Part of a base package, no.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:06 AM

So all in all I missed the following:

1 Episode of Tosh.0
1 Episode of Workaholics
2 Episodes of Futurama

And guess what? They are all on again within the next couple of days. Just as I thought, I missed nothing. :)


I don't see a repeat for the first Futurama episode missed, Zapp Dingbat.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:06 AM

I wonder how many of the people who left DirecTV because Viacom was dark actually got their new service installed before the dispute was settled. This was much adu about missing 17 channels for 10 days.


Talked to my brother-in-law a few days ago,(Dish Installer) he said that became VERY busy.:lol:

I'll have to talk to him again this weekend and see if they slowed down....

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#2947 OFFLINE   John Strk

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:06 AM

Great! So when can we expect details on how much our base packages are going up? :(
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:07 AM

It's painfully obvious that DirecTV considers itself the winner in this one. That does NOT mean our bills won't be going up. But it does mean that Direct basically got the terms it was going for:

1. no required carriage of Epix
2. Viacom content to go
3. a long-term contract

The two statements seem to bear this out. Viacom basically said we're pleased to be back, while DirecTV strutted around, as borne out in the statements quoted above.

(from: http://www.deadline....-nets-restored/ )

Game-set-match: DirecTV, or so it seems this morning.

Y'know....it's kind of funny....all this time Charlie Ergen has been posturing about how he is trying to keep costs down and protect the consumer. But when a really big time dispute blew up, it was DirecTV that dug in its heels and apparently really put a hurt on Viacom.


I think Viacom put a lot of the hurt on themselves with the way they acted.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:08 AM

I don't see a repeat for the first Futurama episode missed, Zapp Dingbat.


Yeah, I thought I did. I got that via Torrent anyways. :lol:
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:09 AM

Great! So when can we expect details on how much our base packages are going up? :(


The usual $5/mo in February.
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:11 AM

Well, at least i'll have spike back in time for HorsepowerTv :)

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:16 AM

Y'know....it's kind of funny....all this time Charlie Ergen has been posturing about how he is trying to keep costs down and protect the consumer. But when a really big time dispute blew up, it was DirecTV that dug in its heels and apparently really put a hurt on Viacom.


I'm sorry but that just is out of whack. Ergen has often taken down channels in these disputes, to the point that many here have made very negative comments about how often it occurs.

So to call it 'posturing' is just so much baloney!

And frankly Viacom was its own worst enemy in all this. They displayed a childish and very negative approach to negotiations, which in the end bit them in the butt. That gave D* the high ground.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:20 AM

Ergen has often taken down channels in these disputes, to the point that many here have made very negative comments about how often it occurs.


Doesn't it seem to you, though, that when he does, there's a personal edge to it? While the DTV-Viacom dispute seemed heightened, at least with their public statements, you never got the impression that it was anything else but business and that a deal would be struck, sooner or later. Contrast that with DISH's childish take-the-ball-and-never-come-back approach surrounding AMC channels.
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:26 AM

CBS Corp in the fall (CBS o&o's, SHO, TMC, FLIX, , CBS Sports Net)

DirecTV faces another programming negotiation in coming months: Its deal with CBS Corp. (CBS) is up for renewal in the fall, according to a person familiar with the matter.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:27 AM

Doesn't it seem to you, though, that when he does, there's a personal edge to it? While the DTV-Viacom dispute seemed heightened, at least with their public statements, you never got the impression that it was anything else but business and that a deal would be struck, sooner or later. Contrast that with DISH's childish take-the-ball-and-never-come-back approach surrounding AMC channels.


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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:28 AM

Doesn't it seem to you, though, that when he does, there's a personal edge to it? While the DTV-Viacom dispute seemed heightened, at least with their public statements, you never got the impression that it was anything else but business and that a deal would be struck, sooner or later. Contrast that with DISH's childish take-the-ball-and-never-come-back approach surrounding AMC channels.


In general, no I don't believe it is that way. The current AMC dispute is certainly exascerbated by the lawsuit, but that hasn't been the case for most of the disputes.

Actually when AMC came on in HD with Dish it surprised many as they knew there was no love lost between them and Dish.

In the back of my mind, I keep thinking that D* was helped in their handling of the Viacom issue by the fact that Dish has just taken AMC off without huge subscriber loss. Which kind of sent the signal that maybe this was the time for the distributor/content provider battle lines to be set.

We all knew it was coming at some point in time.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:33 AM

we have no idea the terms. For all we know the terms are what they were before. I tend to believe Directv stood its ground. If it caves then the next provider won't back down when it wants another 30% and then before long our 100 bill will be $130 this year. My guess is Viacom needed Directv more than the other way around.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:39 AM

Centric IMO is basically viacoms version of BET


And here I thought BET was Viacom's version of BET ;)

Both Centric and BET are owned by Viacom, and both target African-American audiences. Centric originally was BET on Jazz and showcased jazz music-related programming. Now is is a general interest channel geared towards an older African-American audience than BET is.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:43 AM

So all in all I missed the following:

1 Episode of Tosh.0
1 Episode of Workaholics
2 Episodes of Futurama

And guess what? They are all on again within the next couple of days. Just as I thought, I missed nothing. :)


Actually last week's new Futurama "Zapp Dingbat" is not found in doing a search of upcoming episodes. Last night's new episode, "The Butterjunk Effect" is on tonight at 8:58 and repeated several times in the search.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:50 AM

Well, at least i'll have spike back in time for HorsepowerTv :)


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