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DirecTV/Viacom Dispute?


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#26 OFFLINE   Sixto

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 10:13 PM

Always find these spats interesting. Shame that there's not some way to make the content provider pricing more transparent to the end consumer to let the public decide what's a fair price.

And with the newer technologies they may be haggling over some other terms as well.
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Posted 09 July 2012 - 10:14 PM

Sometime between 2003 and 2005, there was a massive no-holds-barred fight between Dish and Viacom where there were crawls in the middle of the screen followed by Dish Network quickly blacking it out. It was very annoying for those of us with DirecTV and other providers.

Of course, I would remember this... I was a moderator back then.

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 10:16 PM

That is a little greedy on behalf of Viacom. They want a 30% increase and people that were lucky to get an increase in their pay, maybe got 3%. Most fixed or retires incomes that have a cost of living clause, might get a 3% increase in their checks. I would be glad to give them 30%, increase, if I got a 30% increase in my pay.


Yea, all that reality programming and cartoon stuff is expensive :)
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Posted 09 July 2012 - 10:16 PM

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 10:24 PM

Does anyone have a complete list of the 26 channels?


I really don't think DirecTV carries 26 of their channels..

I am coming up with: MTV, Nick, Comedy Central, BET, VH1, Spike, TV Land, CMT, Logo, MTV 2, VH1 Classic, Centric, Palladia, Nick Jr, Nicktoons, TeenNick.

It looks like they are starting to put Alert channels under each channel in the guide so I'll scroll through and see if I missed any.

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Edit: Missed MTV t3es

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 10:31 PM

I really don't think DirecTV carries 26 of their channels..

I am coming up with: MTV, Nick, Comedy Central, BET, VH1, Spike, TV Land, CMT, Logo, MTV 2, VH1 Classic, Centric, Palladia, Nick Jr, Nicktoons, TeenNick.

It looks like they are starting to put Alert channels under each channel in the guide so I'll scroll through and see if I missed any.

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Edit: Missed MTV t3es


Theirs also the Viacom owned local channels.

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 10:33 PM

I called a CSR from America amazingly, and she said D* has a 99 percent success rate with this etc etc. I pretty much wasnt angry, but I was irritated by the lack of PR on both sides about this. I mean when stuff like this occurs, you get a couple of weeks notice not 24 hours.

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 10:36 PM

Please drop these channels and lower my bill. :) At least give me a chance to drop their stuff and lower my bill. Go ahead Viacom, make my day.

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 10:37 PM

Mike White is on 299-1. I wonder when he made that video?

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 10:40 PM

Mike White is on 299-1. I wonder when he made that video?


It had to be fairly recent. And likely not 20 minutes ago recent. So.. it sounds like they have been working with Viacom for a while and had a feeling it might come down to this?

The directvpromise.com site still doesn't have the new video or any other information on it yet.

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 10:47 PM

All due respect to those that don't like viacom channels - viacom properties basically are "cable". This isn't FX or VS or G4. These re some pretty serious heavy hitter tv properties. I can't imagine not having access to them.

Btw LUV hie mie white days this is about a la carte. Haha. Yeah right.

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 10:49 PM

All due respect to those that don't like viacom channels - viacom properties basically are "cable". This isn't FX or VS or G4. These re some pretty serious heavy hitter tv properties. I can't imagine not having access to them.

Btw LUV hie mie white days this is about a la carte. Haha. Yeah right.


Mike white is wrong, but your right on your first point. I mean MTV,Nick, and VH1 along with BET are highly rated channels and this if it happens could be something that drives subscribers away from D*.

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 10:52 PM

Mike white is wrong, but your right on your first point. I mean MTV,Nick, and VH1 along with BET are highly rated channels and this if it happens could be something that drives subscribers away from D*.


Or $150/mo bills might drive them away. Pick your poison.

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 10:52 PM

I really can't see this going on for more than a couple of days, if the channels are even dropped at all.

I think DISH dropped them for, what, 2 or 3 days in 2004 before they got everything worked out?

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 11:01 PM

Or $150/mo bills might drive them away. Pick your poison.


Personally I already pat that. My choice. But certainly won't continue to pay that with such a sizable chunk of cable missing from my line up.

You can run but you can't hide forever from higher tv bills - even if you cut the cord. Piper is going to get paid sooner or later.

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 11:06 PM

Theirs also the Viacom owned local channels.


not anymore. Viacom and CBS split back in 06 into 2 separate companies. So no locals are affected

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 11:07 PM

Viacom says 26 channels Directv says 17 channels which is it and exactly what channels are they. Honestly I can care less about MTV, BET, VH1, LOGO Spike is OK but I can live without it. The Nickelodeon Channels I would like to have. Viacom is asking for an absurd price increase 30% or $1B is way too much. Most channels beside the Nickelodeon Networks show nothing but garbage reality shows. Viacom wants all their channels or nothing because no one would pay for anything but possibly the Nickelodeon Channels and $1B for just those channels can't be justified. If anyone knows which side is telling the truth and the complete channel list affected could you please post.

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 11:09 PM

Viacom says 26 channels Directv says 17 channels which is it and exactly what channels are they. Honestly I can care less about MTV, BET, VH1, LOGO Spike is OK but I can live without it. The Nickelodeon Channels I would like to have. Viacom is asking for an absurd price increase 30% or $1B is way too much. Most channels beside the Nickelodeon Networks show nothing but garbage reality shows. Viacom wants all their channels or nothing because no one would pay for anything but possibly the Nickelodeon Channels and $1B for just those channels can't be justified. If anyone knows which side is telling the truth and the complete channel list affected could you please post.


Neither is being truthful.

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 11:15 PM

I kind of get the feeling DirecTV got blindsided by Viacom on this one.


It's usually the media companies that start the mudslinging first.

I say dump the channels.

I might miss TV Land and Spike..... but ah well.
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Posted 09 July 2012 - 11:16 PM

That's likely have since they don't even have anything up on directvpromise.com yet regarding this.


They've updated their Facebook page but not the directvpromise site yet. It's probably coming soon.

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 11:41 PM

I say dump the channels for awhile. Let Viacom explain to their advertisers how they're suddenly 20 million viewers less. Watch their stock drop. Then renegotiate next week.

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 11:50 PM

Hello everyone,

Another typical dispute between the content provider and DirecTV. Following the trend the content providers will reach a point that the content will be rejected due to overvaluation of the content vs the ability of the subscribers to pay. As others have noted the subscribers income is increasing at a very small rate, not at all or actually decreasing. The subscriber base will eventually dwindle thus making the system a candidate for collapse. :soapbox:
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Posted 09 July 2012 - 11:57 PM

Interesting comments on Facebook about breach of contract if channels are dropped. Is there anything in the contract about just how many channels they're allowed to drop before you can be let out of your contract? Can they just turn EVERYTHING off and you still legally have to continue to pay monthly or pay an ETF?

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 12:00 AM

Interesting comments on Facebook about breach of contract if channels are dropped. Is there anything in the contract about just how many channels they're allowed to drop before you can be let out of your contract? Can they just turn EVERYTHING off and you still legally have to continue to pay monthly or pay an ETF?


If I recall from reading it, it just says it is at their discretion to add/drop channels. They would probably do like DISH did, and add channels to fill in the holes. There are lots of channels they dont carry they could pick up.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 12:01 AM

One thing though...DirecTV is fantastic with negotiations. You usually never even know when they're going on, unlike Dish Network which yanks channels all the time and for extended periods (FX was six months, YES, SNY, MSG have been gone for...two years?). The Tribune dispute lasted a week before they came back online.


Err what? FX, FSN and Natgeo were dark on Dish Network for about 28 days I dont know where your getting your "6 months" from but it is not correct.

Also whats this talk of being blindsided? I get that DTV might have been blind sided by the crawls but I dont see how they could be blind sided by contracts expiring o.O




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