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DirecTV Locals - City By City (v3)


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#26 OFFLINE   Maruuk

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 01:37 AM

Cue fireworks and brass band!!! At LAST!!!

What's a "TPN Map"?

Edited by Maruuk, 19 August 2012 - 01:42 AM.


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Posted 19 August 2012 - 02:43 AM

Cue fireworks and brass band!!! At LAST!!!

What's a "TPN Map"?


DIRECTV Domestic & LatinAm Transponder Maps: New Data 8/15/2012

NEW HD-MARKET ACTIVITY

NET|NAME|CHL|NOTES0|NOTES1
641|*KSBW|8|A3 Monterey 08 KSBW NBC|NBC television services from KSBWDT-TV, 08, Monterey, CA
641|*ABC|9|A3 Monterey 09 KSBWDT ABC|ABC television services from KSBWDT2-TV, 09, Monterey, CA
641|*KQET|25|A3 Monterey 25 KQET PBS|PBS television services from KQETDT-TV, 25, Monterey, CA
641|*KCBA|35|A3 Monterey 35 KCBA FOX|FOX television services from KCBADT-TV, 35, Monterey, CA
641|*KION|46|A3 Monterey 46 KION CBS|CBS television services from KIONDT-TV, 46, Monterey, CA
641|*KION|47|A3 Monterey 47 KIONDT CW|CW television services from KIONDT-TV, 47, Monterey, CA
641|*KSMS|67|A3 Monterey 67 KSMS UNI|Univision television services from KSMSDT-TV, 67, Monterey, CA


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Posted 19 August 2012 - 07:31 AM

Wonder if Ion has tried to get Channel 46 to give up those call letters.

Actually, I assume they don't care, given the number of Ion affiliates that still have call letters containing "PX."
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 08:03 AM

Good work Alan, just curious but what are the white areas? not available/not announced or so out there that they aren't in any market

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 08:56 AM

I live in salem,mo ad i get locals from st.louis,mo and i wish tht directv would add wrbu 46 @ knlc 24 in hd

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 09:03 AM

Good work Alan, just curious but what are the white areas? not available/not announced or so out there that they aren't in any market


Yeah, I think its areas with no local channel service at all SD or HD, and none announced.

Likely corresponds to these DMAs from the transponder map "tan" shadings under the LiL Market List tab described as "No LiL Service No Service Date":

Twin Falls, ID - DMA 705
Alpena, MI - 517
Bend, OR - 529
Bowling Green, KY - 537
Casper - Riverton, WY - 541
Charlottesville, VA - 547
Cheyenne, WY - Scottsbluff, NE - 549
Glendive, MT - 585
Grand Junction - Montrose, CO - 586
Helena, MT - 599
Lima, OH - 621
North Platte, NE - 647
Ottumwa, IA - Kirksville, MO - 652
Presque Isle, ME - 663
San Angelo, TX - 667
Victoria, TX - 708

Edited by HoTat2, 19 August 2012 - 09:09 AM.


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Posted 19 August 2012 - 12:04 PM

Good work Alan, just curious but what are the white areas? not available/not announced or so out there that they aren't in any market


Yeah, I think its areas with no local channel service at all SD or HD, and none announced.

Likely corresponds to these DMAs from the transponder map "tan" shadings under the LiL Market List tab described as "No LiL Service No Service Date":

Twin Falls, ID - DMA 705
Alpena, MI - 517
Bend, OR - 529
Bowling Green, KY - 537
Casper - Riverton, WY - 541
Charlottesville, VA - 547
Cheyenne, WY - Scottsbluff, NE - 549
Glendive, MT - 585
Grand Junction - Montrose, CO - 586
Helena, MT - 599
Lima, OH - 621
North Platte, NE - 647
Ottumwa, IA - Kirksville, MO - 652
Presque Isle, ME - 663
San Angelo, TX - 667
Victoria, TX - 708


HoTat2 is correct...

Newshawk did an awesome job with updating the map... and it'll be nice to see three more locations filled in with blue very soon. :)

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 12:27 PM

Regarding the HD LiL "blue" areas though, be kinda of interesting to see the map with separate colors distinguishing the older markets with both MPEG-4 HD at 99/103 and MPEG-2 SD at 101/119, with the newer ones that are MPEG-4 only. :D

But I wouldn't dare want to burden Newshawk with that additional task who's already done a great service with the map already. :)

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 04:46 PM

I live in salem,mo ad i get locals from st.louis,mo and i wish tht directv would add wrbu 46 @ knlc 24 in hd


Really? Dent County is in the Springfield market. You should be getting their stations.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 06:52 PM

Regarding the HD LiL "blue" areas though, be kinda of interesting to see the map with separate colors distinguishing the older markets with both MPEG-4 HD at 99/103 and MPEG-2 SD at 101/119, with the newer ones that are MPEG-4 only. :D


Those 52 'MPEG4-Only' Markets are defined in the "LIL Market List" tab of the TPN MAP Excel. We also have many LIL Networks, like Net 692 - St. Joseph, MO - that are all MPEG4 except for a single imported PBS or CW still provided in MPEG2.


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Posted 19 August 2012 - 07:15 PM

Yeah, I think its areas with no local channel service at all SD or HD, and none announced.

Likely corresponds to these DMAs from the transponder map "tan" shadings under the LiL Market List tab described as "No LiL Service No Service Date":

Twin Falls, ID - DMA 705
Alpena, MI - 517
Bend, OR - 529
Bowling Green, KY - 537
Casper - Riverton, WY - 541
Charlottesville, VA - 547
Cheyenne, WY - Scottsbluff, NE - 549
Glendive, MT - 585
Grand Junction - Montrose, CO - 586
Helena, MT - 599
Lima, OH - 621
North Platte, NE - 647
Ottumwa, IA - Kirksville, MO - 652
Presque Isle, ME - 663
San Angelo, TX - 667
Victoria, TX - 708


Those 'tan' entries are indeed those 16 Markets with No Local Service at all. However, three of those markets are on the "HD Launch in 2012" list:

Bend, OR
Lima, OH
Twin Falls, ID

I have changed the wording in the "LIL Market List" tab so this coming week's TPN MAP posting will be more clear.


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Posted 19 August 2012 - 08:46 PM

Really? Dent County is in the Springfield market. You should be getting their stations.

my address is 411 c hwy ww the box # c is the reason why i have the st.louis loacls

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 11:11 AM

Are Monterey HD locals now supposed to be active? Unless my visual acuity is lessening with age, I’m still receiving them in SD.

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 11:13 AM

Are Monterey HD locals now supposed to be active? Unless my visual acuity is lessening with age, I’m still receiving them in SD.


They are currently in testing... have been for two weeks now.

Expect to see them "SOON!" :)

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 01:34 PM

They are currently in testing... have been for two weeks now.

Expect to see them "SOON!" :)

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Thank you, sir.

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 03:12 PM

Sweet! No more Masterpiece trashed by fog! Niners in Aich-Dee every week!

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 07:09 PM

They are currently in testing... have been for two weeks now.

Expect to see them "SOON!" :)

~Alan

Apologies for asking what has probably been asked many times before but:
What is a typical time frame for locals to go from test to active? Nationals seem to go live the Wed after they appear in test. How about locals? And is it also a Wed (he asks eagerly)?

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 07:19 PM

Apologies for asking what has probably been asked many times before but:
What is a typical time frame for locals to go from test to active? Nationals seem to go live the Wed after they appear in test. How about locals? And is it also a Wed (he asks eagerly)?

David


Well, Lafayette, LA has been in testing since July 12 and has yet to be activated. Back in 2010, my locals took a week or two. So... it really depends on the market...

Generally on Wednesday, correct.

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 07:24 PM

but:
What is a typical time frame for locals to go from test to active? And is it also a Wed (he asks eagerly)?

David


The longest I can recall: over two years in *TEST.

A very UNscientific seat-of-the-pants average for locals: 4 weeks. There are just many, many factors involved.

And historically - on Wednesday morning. These last few weeks have been a whole new game though, with LIL channels coming alive during the week.

Yeah, I know, not good answers......
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Posted 20 August 2012 - 07:47 PM

Thanks for the attempts to answer. So the executive summary is:

Somewhere between 1 week and 2 years! On a Wednesday.

:)

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 09:35 AM

Thanks for the attempts to answer. So the executive summary is:

Somewhere between 1 week and 2 years! On a Wednesday.

:)


Lafayette, LA is reporting that their HD-LiL is showing up in the mobile app for tomorrow, so odds are good it will be live in the morning.

If you have access to the mobile app, you can check every Tuesday and most likely get a heads up...

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 10:26 AM

Those 52 'MPEG4-Only' Markets are defined in the "LIL Market List" tab of the TPN MAP Excel. We also have many LIL Networks, like Net 692 - St. Joseph, MO - that are all MPEG4 except for a single imported PBS or CW still provided in MPEG2.


Oh I realize this gct;

I was just saying that I thought it would be more interesting to see the geographical distribution of the two different market types on the map.

Like on the "City name" chart Alan is now maintaining where the older markets with locals on 99/101/103 HD/SD (MPEG-2/4) are "mainly" colored in light green, and the MPEG-4 only in dark blue.

Minor variations like the yellow and diluted yellow colors for SD MPEG-4 and MPEG-2/4 simulcast channels may be included in the first two main color descriptions for the abbreviated purposes of the geo- map display.

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 10:43 AM

Lafayette, LA is reporting that their HD-LiL is showing up in the mobile app for tomorrow, so odds are good it will be live in the morning.

If you have access to the mobile app, you can check every Tuesday and most likely get a heads up...

~Alan

I'm looking at the DirecTV app on the iPad and I don't see *any* locals (SD or HD) listed in the channel guide. (I do have SD locals currently available on the HR-2x itself.) Is there somewhere else I should be looking? :confused:

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 11:01 AM

I'm looking at the DirecTV app on the iPad and I don't see *any* locals (SD or HD) listed in the channel guide. (I do have SD locals currently available on the HR-2x itself.) Is there somewhere else I should be looking? :confused:


That's probably because they are testing and you have "Hide SD Duplicates" on.

What does it tell you on the app if you go forward to tomorrow night?

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 12:50 PM

That's probably because they are testing and you have "Hide SD Duplicates" on.

What does it tell you on the app if you go forward to tomorrow night?

~Alan

You are correct that I had "Hide SD Duplicates" on and that if I turn it off, the locals appear. Of course I wouldn't have expected it to hide the SD stuff until the locals were in HD!

If I leave Hide HD Duplicates ON and look at the "Guide" page on the iPad and go to tomorrow or a day or two after, the guide does NOT magically change to show my locals. I guess you are saying the list of stations would be updated if the HD locals were going to turn on tomorrow.

Thanks for trying to help here. I guess I'll just see what happens tomorrow. Hopefully I get a nice surprise. I know a number of other people in the local area who will be happy when it happens. :)




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