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FIOS customers complaining about no new HD - Oh the irony


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#1 OFFLINE   ChicagoBlue

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 06:37 PM

Funny stuff, just drop the provider name and fill in a different one. People think it is just DTV, then you go to the Dish forums and it is there, go to the FIOS forums it is there, etc, etc.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 06:48 PM

Funny stuff, just drop the provider name and fill in a different one. People think it is just DTV, then you go to the Dish forums and it is there, go to the FIOS forums it is there, etc, etc.

:lol:

http://forums.verizo...ely/td-p/431479


Fios has added nothing in a long long time. Rumors of something by October.
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Posted 15 July 2012 - 07:13 PM

Fios has added nothing in a long long time. Rumors of something by October.


Don't they know if they don't add HD right now and in droves, they will lose customers by the billions?

-- Sincerely, Swanni

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 07:20 PM

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 07:58 PM

Don't they know if they don't add HD right now and in droves, they will lose customers by the billions?

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LOL.

What always makes me laugh is that fios has this fantasy image. They did a big splash a while back and people just think they have a lead. But they dont anymore. Well, thy do have Viacom right now.

They have a bandwidth issue of their own. They could solve it with mpeg4 (they are actually translating raw mpeg4 to mpeg2) but have too many mpeg2 only boxes out in the field.
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Posted 15 July 2012 - 08:01 PM

LOL.

What always makes me laugh is that fios has this fantasy image. They did a big splash a while back and people just think they have a lead. But they dont anymore. Well, thy do have Viacom right now.

They have a bandwidth issue of their own. They could solve it with mpeg4 (they are actually translating raw mpeg4 to mpeg2) but have too many mpeg2 only boxes out in the field.


that is what is good with directv ALL HD is MPEG4 right now.
I want CLTV / CLTV HD on direct tv.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 08:24 PM

From Wikipedia, here is the channel lineup from Verizon FiOS:

http://en.wikipedia....n_FiOS_channels



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Posted 15 July 2012 - 08:37 PM

From Wikipedia, here is the channel lineup from Verizon FiOS:

http://en.wikipedia....n_FiOS_channels


Oh my. Disney Jr in SD only! What a bunch if bums.
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Posted 15 July 2012 - 09:36 PM

that is what is good with directv ALL HD is MPEG4 right now.


And look at all the HD channels DirecTV have added recently....

MPEG4 is simply a more efficient way of compressing the signal. It doesn't give you a better picture or anything. There's nothing "wrong" with MPEG2 except it takes up more bandwidth. If all of DirecTV's HD channels were in MPEG2 I doubt that they would be able to offer as many HD channels as they do, given the fact that they are somewhat bandwidth-starved until the new satellite is launched. So I suppose it is "good" that all of DirecTV's channels are MPEG4, but it's not necessarily "bad" that FiOS is MPEG2.

That being said, FiOS still offers more basic HD channels than DirecTV, as well as more of the premium movie channels in HD. Where DirecTV excels is in HD sports programming, where FiOS doesn't even come close.

But FiOS customers, as well as DirecTV customers, will have more HD "soon".

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 09:39 PM

FIOS is now trying to get more people whith it's FIOS QUANTUM package.

there saying its the best internet ever created.

I'm still with comcast High speed had it since 97. its really the only service i like from comcast.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 09:41 PM

FIOS is now trying to get more people whith it's FIOS QUANTUM package.

there saying its the best internet ever created.

I'm still with comcast High speed had it since 97. its really the only service i like from comcast.


Fios Internet is good but I really liked Comcast Internet. I may go back but fios gives me adjacent market locals I can't get without an antenna.
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Posted 15 July 2012 - 09:44 PM

LOL.

What always makes me laugh is that fios has this fantasy image. They did a big splash a while back and people just think they have a lead. But they dont anymore. Well, thy do have Viacom right now.


This is the same splash that DirecTV made when they added all those HD channels a few years back and made all those claims about being the HD leader. This was followed by a couple of years of nearly no new HD channels added.

DirecTV and FiOS are both treading water when it comes to adding HD channels. One or the other may be the actual leader (depending on how you choose to count), but their position is tenuous at best. I actually think my local cable company (TWC) may offer more HD channels than either DTV or FiOS now.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 09:44 PM

Fios Internet is good but I really liked Comcast Internet. I may go back but fios gives me adjacent market locals I can't get without an antenna.


ive yet to see what the new speeds are with this new quantum hype they are yapping about.


I also now see the new comcast commercials stating they are getting ready for new internet speeds and people what they are paying now are going to get upgrades in speed at no charge.

im paying for the Blast speed right now, currently getting 30 dn and 5 up.

when i do a test, im usually around 36 dn and 6.4 up.

the next tier, would be the 50 /10 the highest advertised is 100 / 30. but that tier cost 200, but they do offer 1 year at 100 a month.

so i wouldnt mind getting the 50 if they are getting ready to get higher speeds then 100.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 09:52 PM

And look at all the HD channels DirecTV have added recently....

MPEG4 is simply a more efficient way of compressing the signal. It doesn't give you a better picture or anything. There's nothing "wrong" with MPEG2 except it takes up more bandwidth. If all of DirecTV's HD channels were in MPEG2 I doubt that they would be able to offer as many HD channels as they do, given the fact that they are somewhat bandwidth-starved until the new satellite is launched. So I suppose it is "good" that all of DirecTV's channels are MPEG4, but it's not necessarily "bad" that FiOS is MPEG2.

That being said, FiOS still offers more basic HD channels than DirecTV, as well as more of the premium movie channels in HD. Where DirecTV excels is in HD sports programming, where FiOS doesn't even come close.

But FiOS customers, as well as DirecTV customers, will have more HD "soon".


If Viacom comes back, the gap on basic HD is next to nothing, actually.

NG Wild, lifetime movies, WE tv, Wealth, the Hub is all fios has directv does not.

Directv has Cartoon Network and Hallmark and soon TCM. And Audience.

Basically a wash. As for premiums, fios has Epix. They also have more west coast feeds of HBO, etc. the rest is a wash.

Fios shines locally with all the sub channels but absolutely stinks at national sports.

Rumors say BBCA is coming but that is a year old now. Meanwhile, we expect the plex channels sometime for directv.

Overall, directv offers more.
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Posted 15 July 2012 - 09:52 PM

FIOS is now trying to get more people whith it's FIOS QUANTUM package.

there saying its the best internet ever created.

I'm still with comcast High speed had it since 97. its really the only service i like from comcast.


Does your internet speed go down at certain times of the day? Most cable internet providers make you share bandwidth with many others in your neighborhood, so during peak usage times the internet slows down. I noticed this all the time when I had my high speed internet through Time Warner.

With FiOS, on their 75/35 Quantum plan, I get 83/39 speeds consistently, 24/7.

It's been discussed in these forums before, but it's generally been agreed that FiOS internet is the best available, provided you can get it in your area. Verizon has slowed deployment of FiOS considerably lately, although they're still pushing it heavily in areas where the fiber optic cable has been strung.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 09:56 PM

Does your internet speed go down at certain times of the day? Most cable internet providers make you share bandwidth with many others in your neighborhood, so during peak usage times the internet slows down. I noticed this all the time when I had my high speed internet through Time Warner.

With FiOS, on their 75/35 Quantum plan, I get 83/39 speeds consistently, 24/7.

It's been discussed in these forums before, but it's generally been agreed that FiOS internet is the best available, provided you can get it in your area. Verizon has slowed deployment of FiOS considerably lately, although they're still pushing it heavily in areas where the fiber optic cable has been strung.


I wish i could try it, the verizon internet.

its just if i break the triple play my TV and phone sky rocket.

Living in philly I have no choice but to keep the comcast triple play.

the only benefit CSN and TCN

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 09:59 PM

If Viacom comes back, the gap on basic HD is next to nothing, actually.

NG Wild, lifetime movies, WE tv, Wealth, the Hub is all fios has directv does not.

Directv has Cartoon Network and Hallmark and soon TCM. And Audience.

Basically a wash. As for premiums, fios has Epix. They also have more west coast feeds of HBO, etc. the rest is a wash.

Fios shines locally with all the sub channels but absolutely stinks at national sports.

Rumors say BBCA is coming but that is a year old now. Meanwhile, we expect the plex channels
sometime for directv.
Overall, directv offers more.


Provided you're a sports fan. As for me, the vast majority of sports I watched on DirecTV were either on the major networks or on my local RSNs. I had EI on DirecTV but now get MLB TV on my PS3 and Roku and am quite satisfied.

I agree, if you're a big sports fan then DTV is probably the choice for you. If not, I'd give FiOS a slight edge based on your statements above.

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 04:09 AM

If Viacom comes back, the gap on basic HD is next to nothing, actually.

NG Wild, lifetime movies, WE tv, Wealth, the Hub is all fios has directv does not.

Directv has Cartoon Network and Hallmark and soon TCM. And Audience.


Audience Network does not count.

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 05:59 AM

Can't remember the last time Fios got caught up in a dispute like the current Viacom conundrum. Disney Jr does look a heck of a lot crisper in SD through Fios and ComcastSportsNet is actually viewable to Philly residents. A provider that actually gives a **** about Philadelphia sports viewers. How about that?

I know, I know, Comcast is mean and won't give Direct TV a shot. Cry me a river. Perhaps if Direct TV was willing to play ball things would be different. Verizon played ball and actually got the channel(in HD even).

Even with those gripes I do still love Direct TV. Great receivers and the best GUI in the hood go a long way in my book but nothing is ever perfect i guess.

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 06:31 AM

Can't remember the last time Fios got caught up in a dispute like the current Viacom conundrum. Disney Jr does look a heck of a lot crisper in SD through Fios and ComcastSportsNet is actually viewable to Philly residents. A provider that actually gives a **** about Philadelphia sports viewers. How about that?

I know, I know, Comcast is mean and won't give Direct TV a shot. Cry me a river. Perhaps if Direct TV was willing to play ball things would be different. Verizon played ball and actually got the channel(in HD even).

Even with those gripes I do still love Direct TV. Great receivers and the best GUI in the hood go a long way in my book but nothing is ever perfect i guess.


FIOS hasn't been around too long either I don't think. Like what 5-6 years maybe? I know they nearly lost the local NBC affiliate. There was a message plastered all over a SNF game last year that I got to see on Directv. Give them time, there will be more one day.




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