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MSNBC HD to rebrand as NBC News HD in January 2013?


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#1 OFFLINE   JoeTheDragon

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 07:35 PM

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 07:41 PM

The link isn't working right now, but it makes sense. Comcast just bought out Microsoft's stake in MSNBC.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 07:54 PM

Hmm... I wonder if we will see some bi-partisan coverage now? I'm neither left or right, but MSNBC makes no bones about it... they are far left.

NBC Nightly News always seemed middle-ish. One can only hope.
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 07:56 PM

Hmm... I wonder if we will see some bi-partisan coverage now? I'm neither left or right, but MSNBC makes no bones about it... they are far left.

NBC Nightly News always seemed middle-ish. One can only hope.


Cause Microsoft is a bastion of liberalism?

(Just a joke, I know what you meant. Rebranding to a network name...)

I think the rebranding is dumb though. NBC Sports is part of NBC but is also a channel. Now the News has two names.
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 08:01 PM

Cause Microsoft is a bastion of liberalism?

(Just a joke, I know what you meant. Rebranding to a network name...)

I think the rebranding is dumb though. NBC Sports is part of NBC but is also a channel. Now the News has two names.


I think the Today show is it's own entity as well, if you can believe it.
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 08:16 PM

They got the memo wrong. MSNBC.com is changing to NBCNews.com

Nothing else.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 08:25 PM

I think the rebranding is dumb though. NBC Sports is part of NBC but is also a channel. Now the News has two names.

Three if you recall "Cable NBC" ... (OK, it started as "Consumer News and Business Channel").

I can see where it would work to have NBC Sports as a full time sports network with some crossover to NBC broadcast (similar to ESPN crossing over to ABC - although ESPN is the bigger name ABC has its own heritage).

A full time news network NBC News HD crossing over to NBC broadcast should be able to work as well.

I expected Fox to do that back in the day when the Fox TV Network started up ... and then the Fox News Channel, but the networks seem to have gone their separate ways (although I have seen some hours of Fox News on syndicated local TV).

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 08:25 PM

Don't ya think now we can start dropping the HD after the channel? Or is it just me. ;)
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 08:30 PM

In fact, I've seen some Fox shows blatantly making fun of the Fox News slant. The Simpsons come to mind.
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 08:34 PM

They got the memo wrong. MSNBC.com is changing to NBCNews.com

Nothing else.

http://www.nytimes.c...bc-divorce.html

On Sunday night, MSNBC.com did something that successful Web sites almost never do: it renamed itself.

The site became NBCNews.com, signifying the end of a relationship between NBC and Microsoft that dates back to the earliest days of the commercial Web. Early next year, MSNBC.com will be reborn as a stand-alone site for the cable channel MSNBC, ending the brand confusion that has plagued the site in the past.

It seems odd that the cable channel will still bear the MS name even after the "divorce" both on air and on the web. :confused:

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 09:01 PM

http://www.nytimes.c...bc-divorce.html
On Sunday night, MSNBC.com did something that successful Web sites almost never do: it renamed itself.

The site became NBCNews.com, signifying the end of a relationship between NBC and Microsoft that dates back to the earliest days of the commercial Web. Early next year, MSNBC.com will be reborn as a stand-alone site for the cable channel MSNBC, ending the brand confusion that has plagued the site in the past.
It seems odd that the cable channel will still bear the MS name even after the "divorce" both on air and on the web. :confused:


This makes more sense. Msnbc means nothing as an acronym to most people but it is a brand name and already has NBC in it. Just like espn is just a collection of letters to most people.
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 09:22 PM

Hmm... I wonder if we will see some bi-partisan coverage now? I'm neither left or right, but MSNBC makes no bones about it... they are far left.

NBC Nightly News always seemed middle-ish. One can only hope.


maybe they will cut down on the prison stuff they show on the weekends.
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 11:35 PM

In fact, I've seen some Fox shows blatantly making fun of the Fox News slant. The Simpsons come to mind.


I think that's because Fox News calls it's self Fair and Balanced. MSNBC makes no claims to be in the middle.
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 04:35 AM

I think that's because Fox News calls it's self Fair and Balanced. MSNBC makes no claims to be in the middle.

MSNBC claims to "lean forward" ... is that so their female anchors show more cleavage? :D

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 05:25 AM

This makes more sense. Msnbc means nothing as an acronym to most people but it is a brand name and already has NBC in it. Just like espn is just a collection of letters to most people.


Yeah, it does make sense. The Microsoft part hasn't been obvious on the channel since Princess Diana died.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 05:55 AM

What I wouldn't give to have a 24/7 HD al jazeera or BBC News channels.
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 05:57 AM

MSNBC claims to "lean forward" ... is that so their female anchors show more cleavage? :D


The word Forward itself has pretty significant historical context.
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 06:54 AM

What I wouldn't give to have a 24/7 HD al jazeera or BBC News channels.


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Posted 19 July 2012 - 06:57 AM

Hmm... I wonder if we will see some bi-partisan coverage now? I'm neither left or right, but MSNBC makes no bones about it... they are far left.

NBC Nightly News always seemed middle-ish. One can only hope.


The evening programs I can agree with you. But, Morning Joe (6:00am to 9:00am ET) is pretty evenly biased. Both views are evenly covered and pushed.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 07:30 AM

The evening programs I can agree with you. But, Morning Joe (6:00am to 9:00am ET) is pretty evenly biased. Both views are evenly covered and pushed.


Good point. Morning Joe is an awesome program that I watch from time to time. It seems very "off script".
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 08:36 AM

Microsoft and NBC have ended their partnership which led to the creation of MSNBC. That's why there's the name change. Would think that eventually MSNBC's name will be changed as well on the TV's side of things.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 09:02 AM

I agree. To most people MSNBC is just a brand name like ESPN. I doubt many people even know about Microsoft and then-popular MSN from the mid-1990s.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 04:10 PM

Microsoft and NBC have ended their partnership which led to the creation of MSNBC. That's why there's the name change. Would think that eventually MSNBC's name will be changed as well on the TV's side of things.

That is what is confusing me ... why hang on to the MS name?

I agree with NBC getting away from the .msn.com domains and getting their own second level domains. And perhaps the former Internet news site rebranded NBCNews.com will become a top news site, separate from the entertainment sites at NBC and the cable channel (and separate from Microsoft).

But I don't see the MSNBC channel keeping that name long term.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 04:21 PM

Hmm... I wonder if we will see some bi-partisan coverage now? I'm neither left or right, but MSNBC makes no bones about it... they are far left.


This is because FOX News has been known to be VERY far right in how they report their news, as well as their prime time commentators (O'Reilly and Hannity). Some of the daytime stuff is also far right leaning, though they claim to be "fair and balanced".

Before Keith Olbermann got big on MSNBC, liberals were struggling to find a news outlet that had commentators that were both progressive and not there to serve as punching bags for conservatives like Alan Colmes and Bob Beckell are on Fox, and MSNBC was trying to find their place in cable news. They hit the jackpot the second Olbermann railed the Bush Administration over their handling of Hurricane Katrina's fallout, and it just snowballed from there. MSNBC quickly had it's calling: FOX leans right, so MSNBC will just lean left on the commentating side. They found an audience that was yet to be untapped, and it's been, and continues to be, very successful for them since they seem to be in second place consistently. A few shows (Rachael Maddow's show, more specifically) have been able to get the top spots on some nights.

I would hope they don't change a thing on MSNBC. Why change something that has worked for them? Only ones who haven't liked it are conservatives that seem to hate anyone who disagrees with them.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 04:38 PM

Morning Joe is actually my favorite morning show. Joe's a former GOP congressman from Florida, and the overall show is quite good. Try it, you may enjoy it.




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