Jump to content


Welcome to DBSTalk


Sign In 

Create Account
Welcome to DBSTalk. Our community covers all aspects of video delivery solutions including: Direct Broadcast Satellite (DBS), Cable Television, and Internet Protocol Television (IPTV). We also have forums to discuss popular television programs, home theater equipment, and internet streaming service providers. Members of our community include experts who can help you solve technical problems, industry professionals, company representatives, and novices who are here to learn.

Like most online communities you must register to view or post in our community. Sign-up is a free and simple process that requires minimal information. Be a part of our community by signing in or creating an account. The Digital Bit Stream starts here!
  • Reply to existing topics or start a discussion of your own
  • Subscribe to topics and forums and get email updates
  • Send private personal messages (PM) to other forum members
  • Customize your profile page and make new friends
 
Guest Message by DevFuse

Photo
- - - - -

TCM HD


  • This topic is locked This topic is locked
285 replies to this topic

#276 OFFLINE   harsh

harsh

    Beware the Attack Basset

  • Registered
  • 21,146 posts
  • LocationSalem, OR
Joined: Jun 14, 2003

Posted 26 July 2012 - 08:31 AM

Harsh...had you been following along you would have noticed that it has already been done.

What forum or blog do we have to search to find this link? Someone (other than you) offered a link to the HDTV subforum menu of AVSForum as proof. That's closer but it doesn't lead to a post (or link to a statement elsewhere) from someone who speaks for TCM 'fessing up (as you insist that they have) about the sourcing of their content.

You offer post after post of HQ video and audio snobbery and it is burying the meaningful content.
Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought. -- JFK

...Ads Help To Support This Site...

#277 OFFLINE   Mike Bertelson

Mike Bertelson

    6EQUJ5 WOW!

  • Moderators
  • 13,998 posts
Joined: Jan 24, 2007

Posted 26 July 2012 - 10:00 AM

Harsh...that it has already been done. Long ago. It is common knowledge and has been since long before this discussion began here.

Since no one seems to be able to find the long ago cited sources could you please help out and provide them?

Mike

µß
Since it costs 1.66¢ to produce a penny, my 2¢ worth is really 3.32¢ worth.  That 3.32¢ is my own and not the 3.32¢ of DIRECTV, Dish, or anyone else for that matter.


#278 OFFLINE   Laxguy

Laxguy

    Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 15,109 posts
  • LocationWinters, CA, between Napa and Sacramento
Joined: Dec 02, 2010

Posted 26 July 2012 - 10:02 AM

I mostly agree.

Audiophiles want music to sound as it was intended. The pops and hisses of old recordings, however, were not intended - they were just artifacts of the technology. Many audiophiles actually embrace the artifacts that were introduced by the vacuum tube technology, although I contend that the extra "warmth" was not intended - it is just another artifact.

Some old film does exceed modern HD broadcast quality, but there are others that have deteriorated and are no longer what they were when they were new. Like the pops and hisses of old audio recordings, I also contend that the grain in old film was not intended - it is just another artifact.

Colorization of B&W movies should be outlawed.


Totally agree with first two paragraphs, but here's a great idea that'll never be implemented:

Let colorization begin! But have a setting on the TV (and the DIRECTV® receiver for legacy TVs) that'd remove the RGB info for those who choose to watch in its near pristine state. Then everyone would be happy. (Except the usual suspects.)
"Laxguy" means a guy who loves lacrosse.

#279 OFFLINE   Hoosier205

Hoosier205

    Hall Of Fame

  • Registered
  • 6,658 posts
Joined: Sep 03, 2007

Posted 26 July 2012 - 10:02 AM

Since no one seems to be able to find the long ago cited sources could you please help out and provide them?

Mike


It was already posted in this thread. Folks can refer to that or seek out the many discussions on this topic elsewhere since TCM HD was released in June of 2009. TCM up-converts for their HD channel and plan on native HD at some point in the future.

#280 OFFLINE   Laxguy

Laxguy

    Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 15,109 posts
  • LocationWinters, CA, between Napa and Sacramento
Joined: Dec 02, 2010

Posted 26 July 2012 - 10:06 AM

It was already posted in this thread. Folks can refer to that or seek out the many discussions on this topic elsewhere since TCM HD was released in June of 2009. TCM up-converts for their HD channel and plan on native HD at some point in the future.


C'mon. Pony up! You can either specify the link, or not. Or are you just choosing to be, uh, controversial, in not posting it?
"Laxguy" means a guy who loves lacrosse.

#281 OFFLINE   Hoosier205

Hoosier205

    Hall Of Fame

  • Registered
  • 6,658 posts
Joined: Sep 03, 2007

Posted 26 July 2012 - 10:10 AM

Totally agree with first two paragraphs, but here's a great idea that'll never be implemented:

Let colorization begin! But have a setting on the TV (and the DIRECTV® receiver for legacy TVs) that'd remove the RGB info for those who choose to watch in its near pristine state. Then everyone would be happy. (Except the usual suspects.)


Never gonna happen. Manufacturers are not going to waste resources developing and implementing a feature where there is no interest. There isn't a demand for colorization.

#282 OFFLINE   Hoosier205

Hoosier205

    Hall Of Fame

  • Registered
  • 6,658 posts
Joined: Sep 03, 2007

Posted 26 July 2012 - 10:11 AM

C'mon. Pony up! You can either specify the link, or not. Or are you just choosing to be, uh, controversial, in not posting it?


...it was already posted within this very thread. Just click on it.

#283 OFFLINE   Laxguy

Laxguy

    Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 15,109 posts
  • LocationWinters, CA, between Napa and Sacramento
Joined: Dec 02, 2010

Posted 26 July 2012 - 10:14 AM

Never gonna happen. Manufacturers are not going to waste resources developing and implementing a feature where there is no interest. There isn't a demand for colorization.


Did you truly not read that I specified it's not going to happen??

And while you and many others don't want colorization of B+W films, many do. (Not myself, for the record.)
"Laxguy" means a guy who loves lacrosse.

#284 OFFLINE   Laxguy

Laxguy

    Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 15,109 posts
  • LocationWinters, CA, between Napa and Sacramento
Joined: Dec 02, 2010

Posted 26 July 2012 - 10:15 AM

...it was already posted within this very thread. Just click on it.


I don't want to.

I'd like you to be helpful.
"Laxguy" means a guy who loves lacrosse.

#285 OFFLINE   Hoosier205

Hoosier205

    Hall Of Fame

  • Registered
  • 6,658 posts
Joined: Sep 03, 2007

Posted 26 July 2012 - 10:17 AM

Did you truly not read that I specified it's not going to happen??

And while you and many others don't want colorization of B+W films, many do. (Not myself, for the record.)


Many? I sincerely doubt that. Colorization of film is not at all popular.

#286 OFFLINE   Stuart Sweet

Stuart Sweet

    The Shadow Knows!

  • Registered
  • 37,060 posts
Joined: Jun 18, 2006

Posted 26 July 2012 - 10:28 AM

OK, after several warnings and deleted posts I am closing this thread. My apologies to the many people who contributed useful and helpful posts throughout, and it's a shame that a few bad apples precipitated this action.
Opinions expressed by me are my own and do not necessarily reflect
those of DBSTalk.com, DIRECTV, DISH, The Signal Group, or any other company.




Protected By... spam firewall...And...