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Now that the Dispute has Ended what have we Learned?


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#41 ONLINE   armophob

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 10:15 AM

I learned that I am totally dependent on The Daily Show for a huge portion of my news. I hope they find a way to catch us up with the missed episodes. (before it gets said, on the tv, not the web)

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#42 OFFLINE   tonyd79

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 10:23 AM

I learned that I am totally dependent on The Daily Show for a huge portion of my news. I hope they find a way to catch us up with the missed episodes. (before it gets said, on the tv, not the web)


I hope you meant "news" in quotes.
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#43 OFFLINE   mdavej

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 10:26 AM

I hope that the networks learned that playing hard ball hurts them a lot more than it hurts the sat/cable companies and that they don't have anywhere near the leverage they thought they had.

I learned that Dish needs to hire some of DirecTV's negotiators.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 10:36 AM

I also learned it's possible to have another thread about the dispute. :lol:
If you stop responding to them or put them on ignore, then eventually they'll go away.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 10:41 AM

Guess we will have to save this post for when Epix appears on directv.

Nuance is beyond your ken?


I'm not so sure it will any time soon. DirecTV will have to manage their bandwidth carefully over the next 2 years, and although I very much think that eventually Epix will be carried, I think they will want to wait until they have secured more bandwidth through new satellite launches.
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 10:42 AM

I learned that Dish needs to hire some of DirecTV's negotiators.


:D
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 10:57 AM

I learned that I am totally dependent on The Daily Show for a huge portion of my news.


This may be the saddest and/or most frightening post I've ever read in my years on dbstalk.
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 11:01 AM

Well, you can't run a supermarket without groceries to sell.


On the other hand, you can't sell any advertising if you don't have the viewers to back it up.

And television companies are hit with a double-whammy there.

No carriage: No income from carriage fees.
No carriage: Less income from advertisers. (provided the channel is still carried elsewhere.)

Also: grocery stores also pull certain brands/product lines every so often. If they just don't sell all that well, or a distributor is asking too high a price, they might not carry that brand. But there is still enough brands left to carry to make a profit. And I believe DirecTV would have continued to make a profit, even without Viacom.

Viacom would stand to lose a lot more money with losing DirecTV as a potential audience, especially with their ratings as dismal as they are, and their stock responding to it.
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 11:11 AM

I learned that I am totally dependent on The Daily Show for a huge portion of my news. I hope they find a way to catch us up with the missed episodes. (before it gets said, on the tv, not the web)


This may be the saddest and/or most frightening post I've ever read in my years on dbstalk.


Let's just say.....analysis.....and leave it at that! :lol:

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 11:17 AM

I learned I need to jump on the discounts bandwagon before the ride ends.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 11:17 AM

I learned that I am totally dependent on The Daily Show for a huge portion of my news.


I hope you were thinking about news for some reason, and therefore typed that word instead of the word "comedy". :D
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 11:37 AM

I hope you were thinking about news for some reason, and therefore typed that word instead of the word "comedy". :D


Sadly it seems like there is a large number of people these days who really do consider The Daily Show and Colbert Report to be news, instead of comedy shows, and form a lot of their opinions based on these shows.
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 11:38 AM

I'm not so sure it will any time soon. DirecTV will have to manage their bandwidth carefully over the next 2 years, and although I very much think that eventually Epix will be carried, I think they will want to wait until they have secured more bandwidth through new satellite launches.


Wait. Aren't you the guy who says there is plenty when we talk about California centric sports channels? ;)
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 11:39 AM

On the other hand, you can't sell any advertising if you don't have the viewers to back it up.

And television companies are hit with a double-whammy there.

No carriage: No income from carriage fees.
No carriage: Less income from advertisers. (provided the channel is still carried elsewhere.)

Also: grocery stores also pull certain brands/product lines every so often. If they just don't sell all that well, or a distributor is asking too high a price, they might not carry that brand. But there is still enough brands left to carry to make a profit. And I believe DirecTV would have continued to make a profit, even without Viacom.

Viacom would stand to lose a lot more money with losing DirecTV as a potential audience, especially with their ratings as dismal as they are, and their stock responding to it.


I learned that no analogy is perfect. But then again, it is called an analogy not a congruity.
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 11:40 AM

Sadly it seems like there is a large number of people these days who really do consider The Daily Show and Colbert Report to be news, instead of comedy shows, and form a lot of their opinions based on these shows.


So? A lot of people form their opinions on Internet forums. <ducking>
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 11:46 AM

We learned that Directv caved in and gave Viacom a 20% increase to $600 million a year.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 11:49 AM

We learned that DIRECTV didn't cave in and give them a 30% increase.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 11:51 AM

Sadly it seems like there is a large number of people these days who really do consider The Daily Show and Colbert Report to be news, instead of comedy shows, and form a lot of their opinions based on these shows.


Still more real news on those shows than anything broadcast by the idiots on Faux News.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 11:54 AM

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 12:23 PM

Well, The Daily Show and Colbert Report don't actually fabricate any of the current events they report. That they satirize and lampoon them doesn't make what they started with less factual.

Every "news" channel takes immutable fact and bends it to their agenda. Don't kid yourselves. Fox, NBC News Channel (formerly MSNBC), CNN...they all filter the facts with their own interprative editorial slant.

Are The Daily Show and Colbert Report really so vastly different just because their agenda is to mock and create humor out of current events? They are still starting out with the same "news" as everyone else. You still receive as much factual information.

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