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Now that the Dispute has Ended what have we Learned?


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#76 OFFLINE   tonyd79

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 02:45 PM

So sure, if they add everything in the pipeline:

Los Angeles, Houston, New Orleans: 4
PAC 12: 7
EPIX: 3 (one is SD, right?)


I think all Epix (there are 4) are available in HD but no one carries them all in HD. In fact, maybe only Dish carries them all at all.

They could add just one or two Epix HD to start. Two would match what Fios has. And if they put it in the HD Pack or offer it as a lower priced premium, one would suffice. Add more later if it is successful and/or more bandwidth is available.

I don't know why we usually think all or nothing on these things.

A big key would be getting access to the Epix on line library. On Demand and streaming. There is a ton of programming from many, many decades.
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#77 OFFLINE   Barry in Conyers

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 02:48 PM

Don't know if anything was really learned, but it was very clearly shown that both DirecTV and Viacom are just large money grubbing corporations with no apparent interest in their subscribers and viewers except as a way to feed the cash cows.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 02:48 PM

Sadly it seems like there is a large number of people these days who really do consider The Daily Show and Colbert Report to be news, instead of comedy shows, and form a lot of their opinions based on these shows.


True enough.

OTOH, there are some "news" channels that don't provide much real news...

Probably better not to identify them by name...
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 02:54 PM

glad you brought that back up now that comedy central is back on i have to make sure my season passes are set again for my 2 favorite news shows.These are the only reliable news shows on tv today.So thanks for the reminder.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 02:58 PM

This may be the saddest and/or most frightening post I've ever read in my years on dbstalk.


I guarantee there are many here that would disagree this is true of just my posts on DBSTalk over all the years. :P

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 03:02 PM

How can anyone say Directv did a good job when they handed Viacom a 20% increase for their crap channels. I am leaving before my rates go up again for channels I do not watch. If anything Directv should have offered less then the last deal. Over the last month I have watched Directv about 30% of the time and the rest of the time it was Netflix or OTA and sub channels like ME Tv .


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Posted 20 July 2012 - 03:02 PM

I learned We will still be waiting for Direc to show LA Complex cause they won't carry MuchMusicHD. They must have a 10-50 year rule for certain shows. As in, "Sure we'll show more Canadian Content...in 10 or 50 years".

Does Direc show anything good?


The CW network started airing season 2 of the La Complex this week check there website for the full episodes they maybe there also.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 03:22 PM

Viacom footprint on programming is larger and much more important than I first thought. Sports may be king to us older guys in the 40 plus range but most companies primarly target consumers in the young (Disney, Nick Jr.) age range and upwardly bound 20 plus groups.(MTV, BET and SPIKE)

Direct knows this. All the credits and frebbies given by thems shows they wanted to keep us current customers happy until they worked out their numbers with Viacom. A 20% price increase sounds pretty sweet to me. Think if your employer told you he/she was only going to give you a 20% raise instead of a30% pay increase. Would you really be that upset? We're talking almost a 3/4 billion dollars increase.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 03:48 PM

The CW network started airing season 2 of the La Complex this week check there website for the full episodes they maybe there also.


the LA Complex Season 2:
http://www.cwtv.com/.../the-la-complex

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 04:08 PM

I think all Epix (there are 4) are available in HD but no one carries them all in HD. In fact, maybe only Dish carries them all at all.

Epix 1,2 and 3 are in HD and Epix Drive-In is SD.

The reason I think Epix is off the table is that the DIRECTV announcement specifically noted that Epix was not part of the deal.
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 04:25 PM

What I've learned is that way too many people get way too excited over television. Take a walk, read a book, sit down and talk with your wife/husband/son/daughter/mother/father/...

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 04:40 PM

Epix 1,2 and 3 are in HD and Epix Drive-In is SD.

The reason I think Epix is off the table is that the DIRECTV announcement specifically noted that Epix was not part of the deal.


I don't get the impression that it will be available anytime soon. Too many bruised feelings. Maybe in a year or so.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 04:47 PM

That even paying TWO providers for service you may still not be able to watch all the channels you want and are paying for due to carriage disputes.
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 04:51 PM

Epix 1,2 and 3 are in HD and Epix Drive-In is SD.

The reason I think Epix is off the table is that the DIRECTV announcement specifically noted that Epix was not part of the deal.


That is how dish has them. The Epix webpage makes it sound like they are all available in HD. The movies from Drive In are available on demand and they are all HD.
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 05:28 PM

Happy trails.


Glad u live in an area with affordable high speed internet and can get locals easily

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 05:39 PM

I learned DTV will throw a bunch of $$$ at you if you just ask.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 05:49 PM

That is how dish has them.

And since DISH is the only carrier with Epix 3 and Epix Drive-In, that's how they are.

The Epix webpage makes it sound like they are all available in HD. The movies from Drive In are available on demand and they are all HD.

You answered your own question here.

The Wikipedia article is quite detailed with lots of citations:

http://en.wikipedia....ix_(TV_channel)
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 05:51 PM

And since DISH is the only carrier with Epix 3 and Epix Drive-In, that's how they are.You answered your own question here.


That does not mean they are not available. That is just how they are seen.

BBCA had an HD feed for a while that no one used.
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 05:59 PM

That does not mean they are not available. That is just how they are seen.

It is all academic if DIRECTV maintains their current position on carrying the channels.

DIRECTV's position on BBC America HD is less obvious but it is obviously not a priority.
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 06:09 PM

It is all academic if DIRECTV maintains their current position on carrying the channels.

DIRECTV's position on BBC America HD is less obvious but it is obviously not a priority.


Everything we post on here except technical info and help is academic. Does that mean you will post less?
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 06:19 PM

I don't get the impression that it will be available anytime soon. Too many bruised feelings. Maybe in a year or so.


I don't think directv will ever add epix.
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 06:58 PM

What have we learned?

This too, (fill in the blank), shall pass.

It took less than two weeks.

I doubt many will remember the next time around, as we impose upon ourselves yet another bout of hand-wringing, hyperbole and near hysteria.

So, what have we learned? Probably not a darn thing.:)
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 07:49 PM

What have i learned, Batter up!

Bruising Blackout: A Prelude?
As DirecTV, Viacom Settle Dispute, Contract Talks Loom for Both Fox and CBS.
http://online.wsj.co...2034772130.html

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:02 PM

What have i learned, Batter up!

Bruising Blackout: A Prelude?
As DirecTV, Viacom Settle Dispute, Contract Talks Loom for Both Fox and CBS.
http://online.wsj.co...2034772130.html


Misleading headline. Fox is withComcast. Directv did theirs recently.

But just because Viacom was nasty does not mean CBS or Fox will be. Fox and Directv got to the edge last time but they settled quietly. Viacom has shown they are a bunch of children who lie thinking they will not get caught.
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:10 PM

Comcrap is still running
"D* lost 26 channels..." radio ads here in Boston

Viacom and Comcrap, a match made in heaven


Well, we have to give them a break...if Comcrap did a big ad buy, it can take some time to get those ads pulled.




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