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#51 OFFLINE   camo

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 09:29 PM

So far a couple ladies I like, Kree Harrison and Angela Miller who was amazingly good with her original song "You Set Me Free" .

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 09:34 PM

So far a couple ladies I like, Kree Harrison and Angela Miller who was amazingly good with her original song "You Set Me Free" .


A couple of guys are good, but the talent is so lopsided this year toward the girls side.

Angela Miller definitely came out of nowhere tonight to position herself a front runner. Until her, I was convinced it was going to be a female Country singer winner this year... now I'm not sure. It'll be interesting to see if she can keep up the momentum she gained with that song.

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 09:40 PM

I agree the ladies have most of the talent.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 01:29 PM

A couple of the women are amazing--way ahead of anything in recent seasons.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 12:11 AM

Guess I won't be watching this year. First time since season 2.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:00 AM

Personally I could not understand a single word Zoanette sang last night. I don't care how big a voice you have if I cannot even understand you.

Oh well... let's see how long she lasts.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:07 AM

Personally I could not understand a single word Zoanette sang last night. I don't care how big a voice you have if I cannot even understand you.

Oh well... let's see how long she lasts.


Zoanette sang Hircle of ight last night.

I presume most people liked here since 65% of their instant poll agreed with the judges. She was much better than her Star Spangled Banner rendition that should have sent her packing long ago, but there were so many better people last night that got cut to let her continue.

I don't think American Idol did itself any favors with this move ....
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 09:59 AM

Zoanette sang Hircle of ight last night.

I presume most people liked here since 65% of their instant poll agreed with the judges. She was much better than her Star Spangled Banner rendition that should have sent her packing long ago, but there were so many better people last night that got cut to let her continue.

I don't think American Idol did itself any favors with this move ....

They let the zany performer go through at the same time they keep emphasizing that it's a singing competition.

Looks like they're trying to have it both ways.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 10:05 AM

Guess I won't be watching this year. First time since season 2.



I have to watch it to keep peace in the family, but I'm not really paying attention to it. Instead, I'll just count the times Nicky touches her wig.

Compared to past seasons, the talent this year is mediocre. And this is on both sides.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:32 PM

Zoanette sang Hircle of ight last night.

I presume most people liked here since 65% of their instant poll agreed with the judges. She was much better than her Star Spangled Banner rendition that should have sent her packing long ago, but there were so many better people last night that got cut to let her continue.

I don't think American Idol did itself any favors with this move ....


Actually, at the end of AI last night, AFTER the judges picks were named, the instant poll showed:

#IdolAgree: 30%
#IdolDisagree: 70%



I was entertained by Zoanette last night, but I certainly don't feel that she should have advanced.

I also was considerably surprised they let Breanna through, who in my mind, did a poor job of the song outside of the last note. I'll give Keith a little slack since he stated that he's never heard the song before, but when Jazmine Sullivan sings the song, you believe it. I believed it when Amber Riley ("Glee") sang it, but Breanna left me bored.

I personally liked Juliana Chahayed and Rachel Hale. I could have seen them cutting Juliana due to her age and going with the also talented Jett Hermano though.



Here's what I think though. I think it may have all been strategic.

Tribune's guide data on DirecTV stated the guys were to perform last night instead of the girls, so who knows if the following data is correct, but the guide data is saying that the guys will perform next Tuesday night for America's vote, and then the girls will perform Wednesday, and the TOP 10 will be announced next Thursday.

Since they're doing things differently, I don't know if it will truly be 10, or if the judges will save some ala previous years and make it 13. I also don't know if they will do the usual 5 guys and 5 girls, or if, because the talent is so stacked on the girls side this year, if they will simply let the 10 with the best votes go forward.

So... with more deep and fast cuts to be made, my thinking is that the judges have sent some less talented people through, so that other talented individuals will be able to come back next year when they have a better chance. ;)

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:45 PM

#IdolAgree: 30%
#IdolDisagree: 70%


Oh, so it's just us folks on the west coast that like her. :lol:
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:47 PM

Oh, so it's just us folks on the west coast that like her. :lol:


I figured the results would be the same... :confused:

The results were mostly "#IdolAgree" until the 5 were announced, then it swapped results.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:56 PM

I figured the results would be the same... :confused:

The results were mostly "#IdolAgree" until the 5 were announced, then it swapped results.


I was talking about results that were showing while they were critiquing her.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 03:07 PM

I was talking about results that were showing while they were critiquing her.


There was a 51%/49% poll during their critique of her... I don't really believe that was specific to her, and I don't believe she was really taken into account in the polls until later that episode when it got to the 70%/30% percentage.

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 07:40 PM

Just tuned in to tonight's show briefly. Whatever happened to the concept of diversity? 2 of the final 10 women are White? I thought I had tuned into BET. Remember when TV shows needed to represent real America more? Guess what, they still do! Love to hear these same 10 during Punk Rock week or Acoustic Alt/Rock Week! But these days, they just let'm sing whatever they want off the R&B/Urban contempo charts, right? So much for competition.

Oh that's right, 3 African-American judges, so they're kind of letting us know what the show is about right up front. That's cool, so long as they're up front about it. It's going to be HEAVILY skewed towards the "Urban" sound. I knew there was a good reason I stopped watching this thing long ago. And they wonder why the numbers are down.

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 08:04 PM

Just tuned in to tonight's show briefly. Whatever happened to the concept of diversity?


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Posted 05 March 2013 - 08:51 PM

Hehehe...I'm more of an NHL guy myself....GO Sharks!

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 09:13 PM

Just tuned in to tonight's show briefly. Whatever happened to the concept of diversity? 2 of the final 10 women are White?


Some of us don't care about what color a person is... though admittedly, I'd LOVE to have Aubrey's skin color, so maybe I do care.

Also... your number is not only proven false by the fact there are three white women in the competition... namely Angela "Angie" Miller, Janelle Arthur, and Kree Harrison.

There are several women who are mixed... like Aubrey Cleland, and most likely Breanna Steer.

There's also Adriana Latonio, and possibly Tenna Torres whose ethnicities put them separate from the rest.


I think your mind saw what it wanted to see... :rolleyes:

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 09:18 PM

My top FOUR of the night:

  • Angie Miller
  • Candice Glover
  • Janelle Arthur
  • Kree Harrison


I can't figure out who I'd put fifth though...

  • Amber Holcomb
  • Aubrey Cleland
  • Tenna Torres
  • Breanna Steer
  • Adriana Latonio



Zoanette's not included in my lists.

Edited by Alan Gordon, 06 March 2013 - 02:29 AM.
Upon second listening, I'd put Zoanette in a category of her on, and I put Breanna up higher than Adriana.


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Posted 06 March 2013 - 01:26 AM

So you see diversity in that? I thought diversity was a GOOD thing. You see color, I see blatant musical slant towards a particular culture and the resultant musical genres that get way overexposed. Three of the four judges are R&B artists and producers. A very specific genre. How is that diverse and conducive to advancing a diversity of musical genres among the contestants? O wait, it isn't because we end up with a great preponderance of R&B/Urban contempo specialists. I say this show is perfect for BET, but why is it on a regular network as slanted as it is?

You're either for diversity, or against it. I want to see a spread of musical genres represented equally, not a pressure to excel at one narrow genre that just happens to be the specialty of 3 of the 4 judges.

Keyword: bias.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 02:26 AM

So you see diversity in that? I thought diversity was a GOOD thing. You see color, I see blatant musical slant towards a particular culture and the resultant musical genres that get way overexposed.


You're the one that mentioned a person's color?! :confused:

Well... let's see.

I see Janelle and Kree who are "Country" artists. I see Angie who appears to be a "Pop"/"Contemporary Christian" artist, and then six artists who are either Pop or R&B.

I say "either Pop or R&B" due to the fact that it's too early for me to classify exactly which direction they're leaning. Tenna actually performed a Country song tonight. Granted, it was "New Country", or "Country Pop", but still...

I didn't count Zoanette above, because she defies genres... ;)

Three of the four judges are R&B artists and producers.


IMO, Nicki Minaj is more of Hip-Hop/Rap artist than an R&B artist.

Mariah Carey in my opinion has transcended R&B/Soul during her career... as much of her early stuff was very "Pop", though (unfortunately in my opinion) she has gone more Hip-Hop in her later years.

As for Randy, not only has he worked as a musician for numerous "Pop" and "Rock" acts, but he's also worked in the "Country" genre as well as both a musician and a producer. Besides, after 12 years, Randy's more known for being "The Dawg" than being an R&B producer.


Simon Cowell was quite adamant about not liking "Country Music," yet that didn't stop "Country" artists from trying out for "American Idol" when he was on that, or for Tate Stevens from winning "The X Factor" last year (sadly).

Blake Shelton on "The Voice" has numerous times picked contestants from genres other than "Country" over some of his "Country" artists. In fact, on "The Voice", only Christina Aguilera seemed to have a bias toward her own genre.


BTW... look at the artists who got the most approval from the (unanimous) judges tonight.

Amber - ???????????
Angie - "Pop"/"Contemporary Christian"
Candice - "R&B/Soul"
Janelle - "Country"
Kree - "Country"


I say this show is perfect for BET, but why is it on a regular network as slanted as it is?


I guess FOX wants a diverse programming lineup... ;)

You're either for diversity, or against it. I want to see a spread of musical genres represented equally, not a pressure to excel at one narrow genre that just happens to be the specialty of 3 of the 4 judges.


Unless you want the competition rigged, it's not going to be represented equally every year.

Personally, I'd prefer to be less equal this year, as I believe there are far more talented women this year than there are men, yet we're going to be stuck with multiple men who are less talented than some of the women... all for the sake of equality/diversity.

There were several female artists this year (mostly in the "Country" genre, but a few outside) whom I felt deserved to go farther along in the competition... particularly farther than Zoanette, but by being cut early, they can come back, so no tears here.

Keyword: bias.


I think your mind saw what it wanted to see... :rolleyes:


I said that already... :D



Here's how I see the Female category going after Thursday night:

  • Angie
  • Candice
  • Kree
  • Janelle
  • Unknown

That's 2 "Country" girls, one "Pop"/"Contemporary Christian" artist, one "R&B"/"Soul", and one... whatever.

Some people are thinking that Adriana could sneak into the "Top 10" since she's from Alaska. Perhaps...

If Randy's correct about them talking to the Producers about doing "Wild Cards" again, that list could obviously change, but that's my prediction.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 03:17 AM

Actually, you started talking about color, not me. I could could care less if they're green or purple. Especially with females, there's always going to be some country pop contingent. And R&B huge. But where's hard rock? Alt/Rock? Folk? Blues? Rap? Adult Contemporary? Originals/singer/songwriter?

The old system where they forced them through a variety of genres could get awfully forced, but it did reward versatility and general singing skills. Now they each just represent the one thing they're good at. Week after week.

Three R&B judges and one country pop guy. Accent on the "pop" since I see zero resemblance between that crap and real country music. Resulting in only R&B and country pop singers. What a surprise. No wonder the show is headed for the scrapyard.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 03:42 AM

2 of the final 10 women are White?


I thought I had tuned into BET.


Oh that's right, 3 African-American judges, so they're kind of letting us know what the show is about right up front.


Actually, you started talking about color, not me.


My apologies... I was apparently confused. :confused:

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 01:31 AM

For me, and everyone I've spoken to, Devin Velez was the highlight of the night.

Lazaro who is usually too "Broadway" sounding, was the second favorite.

Curtis and Burnell came in third and fourth. I'm not a fan of Burnell. I like that one song by him, but have hated everything else.

I like Cortez, Nick, and Paul a lot, but it wasn't their best performances.

I hated Charlie and Vincent's performances.


While I like some of the guys, I don't think there's a potential "American Idol" among them. I truly think it's going to be a female, and I have a few different scenarios in how that might play out.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 02:02 PM

"American Idol crash--comes in 4th for night, scored a 3.5 adults 18-49 rating down 8 percent from last week’s 3.8."

No surprises there, folks want diversity.




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