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#1 OFFLINE   JoeTheDragon

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:16 PM

look at channels 795-1 796-1 797-1 and 798-1
I want CLTV / CLTV HD on direct tv.

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#2 OFFLINE   RunnerFL

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:19 PM

Very interesting. I guess since they are giving away the channels that they'll save money and go HD only.

Either that or ABC/ESPN is only going to give them HD feeds. I'm wondering if they go to the radio broadcast now for audio like they have the past couple of years.
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#3 OFFLINE   JoeTheDragon

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:23 PM

Very interesting. I guess since they are giving away the channels that they'll save money and go HD only.

Either that or ABC/ESPN is only going to give them HD feeds. I'm wondering if they go to the radio broadcast now for audio like they have the past couple of years.


they must need the SD bandwidth bad.
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:26 PM

Either that or ABC/ESPN is only going to give them HD feeds.

Good. Now if we could just get all the other networks out there to do the same thing. ;)

Seriously though, if that is the case, why couldn't they take the HD feeds and downrez them for their SD subscribers?

they must need the SD bandwidth bad.

Or that. Time to roll out some MPEG4 receivers.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:29 PM

Good. Now if we could just get all the other networks out there to do the same thing. ;)

Seriously though, if that is the case, why couldn't they take the HD feeds and downrez them for their SD subscribers?


Well, and keep in mind this is just me thinking here, if ABC/ESPN provides both HD and SD feeds to them they may not have the gear on hand to downrez themselves so with ABC/ESPN only providing HD they'd have no way of creating an SD feed. I don't know if the get separate feeds from whomever is carrying the race so I could be completely wrong.

It could also be, as Joe said, a lack of SD bandwidth.
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:45 PM

Either that or ABC/ESPN is only going to give them HD feeds.



In that case, that wouldn't stop them from simply re-encoding the HD feed to SD

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:48 PM

Well, and keep in mind this is just me thinking here, if ABC/ESPN provides both HD and SD feeds to them they may not have the gear on hand to downrez themselves so with ABC/ESPN only providing HD they'd have no way of creating an SD feed. I don't know if the get separate feeds from whomever is carrying the race so I could be completely wrong.

It could also be, as Joe said, a lack of SD bandwidth.


You guys are probably right. Maybe they need the SD room for the new RSNs? :)

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:59 PM

Call me stupid but i thought hotpass was already in HD

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 09:00 PM

Call me stupid but i thought hotpass was already in HD


It is in SD and HD, SD is going away.
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 09:02 PM

Aren't the major sporting events like Wimbledon in hd only? Seems just like a trend. Maybe will entice trade ins on old boxes.
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 09:03 PM

It is in SD and HD, SD is going away.


Ah so i am watching in hd.. good i thought i was crazy...

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 09:55 PM

"If you wish to upgrade to High Definition, call 1-800-531-5000."

Good. Do that item by item. Do it for Sunday Ticket (if the NFL will allow them). Do that for the premium channels (HBO, etc.). Next year do it for EI, etc.

Entice high end folks to get off SD/MPEG2 and start opening up bandwidth slowly but surely. Always thought they should start with the speciality stuff and sports.

Leave the basic, basic only customers on SD until last. But add all new channels in MPEG4 at the least.

It is called transition planning. You can't dump everyone at once (too costly and difficult) but you carve up the low hanging fruit until all you are left with is a small enough group to finalize the transition.
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 10:00 PM

Sucks for SD people. Glad I am not one of them.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 10:14 PM

"If you wish to upgrade to High Definition, call 1-800-531-5000."

Good. Do that item by item. Do it for Sunday Ticket (if the NFL will allow them). Do that for the premium channels (HBO, etc.). Next year do it for EI, etc.

Entice high end folks to get off SD/MPEG2 and start opening up bandwidth slowly but surely. Always thought they should start with the speciality stuff and sports.

Leave the basic, basic only customers on SD until last. But add all new channels in MPEG4 at the least.

It is called transition planning. You can't dump everyone at once (too costly and difficult) but you carve up the low hanging fruit until all you are left with is a small enough group to finalize the transition.

EI, etc. are RSN remaps so they are the last to go.

now for NFL ticket they will need to find a way to give the bars lower cost upgrades for boxes / dish / multiswitch and that just on there side.
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 10:17 PM

"If you wish to upgrade to High Definition, call 1-800-531-5000."

Good. Do that item by item. Do it for Sunday Ticket (if the NFL will allow them). Do that for the premium channels (HBO, etc.). Next year do it for EI, etc.

Entice high end folks to get off SD/MPEG2 and start opening up bandwidth slowly but surely. Always thought they should start with the speciality stuff and sports.

Leave the basic, basic only customers on SD until last. But add all new channels in MPEG4 at the least.

It is called transition planning. You can't dump everyone at once (too costly and difficult) but you carve up the low hanging fruit until all you are left with is a small enough group to finalize the transition.


And then for every basic channel. ;)

MPEG2 SD boxes should have stopped after D10 launched. I know, I know, money.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 11:37 PM

Call me stupid but i thought hotpass was already in HD


Call me stupider, but what the hell is "hotpass".....is that porno?

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 12:03 AM

Do the sports packs one at a time first, just like they did with mpeg-2 to mpeg-4.

Then do dns feeds, and then go market by market and do all the locals.

Then get anyone else that's left.

That would be a logical path to getting to all mpeg4 channels IMHO.

But I think they need to wait another few months before they really getting going on something like that.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 08:35 AM

Call me stupider, but what the hell is "hotpass".....is that porno?


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Posted 21 July 2012 - 08:18 PM

Since an HD dish hooked up to an HD box is capable of sending out a viewabe signal to a NTSC (SD) TV set, it is past time that DirecTV started to reclaim the bandwidth. Over the next 18 months or so, it could get all of the dishes replaced and free up lots of bandwidth for future offerings.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 08:24 PM

Since an HD dish hooked up to an HD box is capable of sending out a viewabe signal to a NTSC (SD) TV set, it is past time that DirecTV started to reclaim the bandwidth. Over the next 18 months or so, it could get all of the dishes replaced and free up lots of bandwidth for future offerings.


They are moving slowly because of the cost of doing so. Personally, I would have stopped adding mpeg2 only systems (that is the real problem, not HD versus SD) once they started mpeg4 but they did not. Because of economic issues. They have been or years installing deprecated systems and have made minimal progress.

It would not free up lots of hd bandwidth but it would be significant. What would be more significant is that the SD would be much, much better and quell some of the desire for HD on lesser channels.
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