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Olympics, NBCsports, DTV & Dish


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#1 OFFLINE   RVRambler

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 02:36 PM

Funny-sad, when I had DTV, special events (Wimbleton, Olympics, etc) they would put up a special group of HD channels (7-10), IIRC, in the 700's, and you could just add those channels to watch all the broadcast-ed events.

Very, Very nice, & I assume, yet again DTV will do this for the Olympics.

But Dish is using the Olympics to sell us Am. Top 250 (Gold Sports crap), JUST to get a single channel (for me with AT 200), a $10 bump.

So not only does Dish NOT do us an Olympic 'favor' of grouping the channels NBC is using, they really want us to pay!

All this after DROPPING AMC! (DTV has viacom again!)

Maybe the best 'customer service' but certainly NOT the best 'service' !! (yes it is cheaper than DTV, but not a huge amount)

Charlie's philosophy at saving us $$ is great, but there certainly are some negative trade-offs to that philosophy!!

A Billionaire yet again wanting more $$ from us, while taking AMC from us to boot!!

But $65 is enough for TV, no mo $$ Charlie from me!
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#2 OFFLINE   Mojo Jojo

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 03:18 PM

I believe that NBC Sports Network is in Choice Xtra on DirecTV for $68.99/month i believe. Dish does have it in America's Top 250 for $69.99/month (which includes other channels that are not in DirecTV's Choice Xtra package like the Encores and The Movie Channel west feeds which would be in a similar higher package on DirecTV like Choice Ultimate). However, Dish does offer NBC Sports Network in Dish America Gold for $59.99/month.

#3 OFFLINE   RVRambler

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 05:03 PM

Don't forget the DVR $6 fee!

The DTV stuff is for all HD subscribers, I believe not just the top tier folks.
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#4 OFFLINE   Mojo Jojo

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 05:47 PM

Don't forget the DVR $6 fee!

The DTV stuff is for all HD subscribers, I believe not just the top tier folks.


Doesn't DirecTV have an $8/month DVR fee? With a 211 with Dish, there is no DVR fee (external hard drive needed and a one-time $40 fee).

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 06:09 PM

But $65 is enough for TV, no mo $$ Charlie from me!

Stop paying him at all and go to DirecTV.
If you really like the way they do things better than DISH go.


As for DISH's presentation of the Olympics, it starts Wednesday. The channels will be in the sports channel range and it isn't hard to set up an "Olympics" favorites list. I'd wait until the channels are live to pass judgement.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 03:32 PM

NBC announced that there will be free streaming web feeds of all the Olympic events if you are a cable or satellite subscriber.

I wonder if those Dish subs who are in markets with a local retrans dispute for the local NBC affiliate (Youngstown Ohio WFMJ) will be blocked form this content if you check Dish as your provider?

I bet you can still get this streaming content without being an AT 250 sub. I believe it's open to everyone who gets NBC via cable or satellite.
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 04:04 PM

Don't forget the DVR $6 fee!

This is as opposed to the $8 fee ($25 with WHDS and TiVo that can't do WHDS) with DIRECTV?

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 06:40 PM

This is as opposed to the $8 fee ($25 with WHDS and TiVo that can't do WHDS) with DIRECTV?


Thank-you, someone had to point that out.....

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 08:34 PM

I bet you can still get this streaming content without being an AT 250 sub. I believe it's open to everyone who gets NBC via cable or satellite.


Incorrect. This is why Dish is promoting the AT 250 package with the rebate card, they know people will be calling to complain when they cannot watch the live streaming content. There is a Dish authentication screen that comes up during the process (just like HBOGO).

Go ahead, go to nbcolympics.com now and try to confirm your access.

This is not about the NBC Sports Network. The required package for a DirecTV customer (and likely many cable companies) is lower/cheaper than Dish because Dish does not offer MSNBC in the AT 120 package (the welcome package does not help because then you do not get CNBC -- the other requirement).

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 08:54 PM

It is worth checking ....
http://www.nbcolympi...help/index.html

I had a friend with AT200 try it and it came up "ready to watch".

BTW: From the FAQ from that page:

Q: What is required for accessing Live Extra content?
A: You will need to verify that you subscribe to a cable, satellite or telco video tier that includes CNBC and MSNBC. There is no additional charge.



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Posted 25 July 2012 - 07:41 AM

Doesn't DirecTV have an $8/month DVR fee? With a 211 with Dish, there is no DVR fee (external hard drive needed and a one-time $40 fee).


$8 for each additional unit (first one is free). And also $10 a month for HD (unless you are a new subscriber).

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 10:16 AM

Stop paying him at all and go to DirecTV.
If you really like the way they do things better than DISH go.


As for DISH's presentation of the Olympics, it starts Wednesday. The channels will be in the sports channel range and it isn't hard to set up an "Olympics" favorites list. I'd wait until the channels are live to pass judgement.


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Posted 25 July 2012 - 10:29 AM

It is worth checking ....
http://www.nbcolympi...help/index.html

I had a friend with AT200 try it and it came up "ready to watch".

BTW: From the FAQ from that page:

Q: What is required for accessing Live Extra content?
A: You will need to verify that you subscribe to a cable, satellite or telco video tier that includes CNBC and MSNBC. There is no additional charge.


That proves my point that you do NOT need AT-250 to get the Olympics streaming content! CNBC and MSNBC are in AT-200.
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Posted 25 July 2012 - 11:02 AM

That proves my point that you do NOT need AT-250 to get the Olympics streaming content! CNBC and MSNBC are in AT-200.


Okay. You are correct that you do not need AT-250, AT-200 is sufficient for online viewing. AT-250 is required for the NBC Sports Network only.

On AT 120, I got ready to watch on the website, but then I get the pop-up.

I have attached the screen shot which indicates the 'ready to watch' on the main page (darker grey) and then the pop-up in front.

For a basic DirecTV subscriber, they would have online access at even the 'E' package level.

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 11:14 AM

The official announcement is still not here, but judging from what Sixto has spied on the satellites, DirecTV will have a "channel remapping" to put all the channels that broadcast Olympics together in a group:

750: Olympic "mix" channel. (shows 8 networks at the same time)
751: Olympic Soccer.
752: Olympic Basketball.
753 through 758 or so will be all the Olympic networks, NBC, MSNBC, NBCSports Network, Bravo, CNBC and Telemundo

The 753-758 will just be remaps, of existing networks. Not sure what goes where yet, I am sure we will see an update some time today or tomorrow on that.
750, 751, 752 are already "live" and Soccer is already being shown.

All I know is that the "7" and "5" keys will see some usage on my remote in the coming few weeks. :D

And indeed, there is no limit to online viewing with DirecTV, if you are a subscriber of *any* package, you can watch online. The streams do look pretty good, too.... I just watched a bit of USA - FRA women's soccer.

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 11:39 AM

And indeed, there is no limit to online viewing with DirecTV, if you are a subscriber of *any* package, you can watch online. The streams do look pretty good, too.... I just watched a bit of USA - FRA women's soccer.


Yeah. This is ugly for anyone who does not have AT-200 or AT-250 on Dish.

Can't watch it on NBCSN (AT-250).
Can't watch it on online (AT-200 needed).
Can't watch it on the special soccer network (not activated even though it was uplinked).

In terms of why they didn't turn on the specialty network. My guess is that they did not realize the start date would be before this weekend OR it will be also limited to higher AT packages (but that was not true in previous years). I don't have a patch in to satellite operations nor do I know which DIRT member to contact efficiently.

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 12:33 PM

I have America's Everything and have spoken with 3 Dish CSR's in the past 2 days,the latest an upper level tech earlier this AM, and so far no one has succeeded in activating the NBC Olympic basketball and soccer channels,even though the 2 I talked to today agreed I SHOULD get those channels. The upper level tech after consulting with her supervisor told me the channels would be 145 and 146, but no joy there,just a logo for ESPN alternate.
So I think Dish is in disarray about how they are covering the Olympics. I did get to see the US women's soccer team vs France on the NBCSN (CH 159),but 145-146 do not have the special channels and I do not get channels 147-149 despite the CSR's attempt to add them to my list.
I will call Dish again tomorrow to see if they have resolved this.
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Posted 25 July 2012 - 12:45 PM

I watched the entire US France womens match this morning on my iPad. I downloaded the two NBC Apps. Picture quality was great even though our work DSL tests out at only 2.3 Mbps. I have AT200. If I find there are events I want to see that can only be watched with AT250 then I'll pay the extra to upgrade for the month and then downgrade recognizing there is a downgrade fee.
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Posted 25 July 2012 - 01:01 PM

According to the schedule, the USA France Womens match was being broadcast on NBC Sports Network which is an AT250 channel and I had no problem watching it online with my AT200 Dish Login.
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Posted 25 July 2012 - 01:32 PM

According to the schedule, the USA France Womens match was being broadcast on NBC Sports Network which is an AT250 channel and I had no problem watching it online with my AT200 Dish Login.


For it to be online, NBC decided that a viewer needed to have a subscription to CNBC and MSNBC. A cable/sat subscription to NBCSN is not required even though there are events that will be primary on that channel (likely because it would have drastically reduced the eligible online list and cause a lot of bad publicity).

This is why AT200 works online without NBCSN.

There is no good reason why Dish did not get its act together and got the soccer on this morning. And then, even more Dish subscribers could have seen the game.

Anyone who is interested in the USA/FRA women's match can watch the reply at 7:30pm pacific on the NBC soccer channel.


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Posted 25 July 2012 - 04:11 PM

The special channels went up this afternoon ... and I agree, they should have been up earlier. I guess DISH forgot the schedule.

DirecTV's "Entertainment" package costs $10 (22%) more than DISH's AT120. It offers a $9 discount off of "Choice" in exchange for a few sports channels. People get what they pay for. If you want the Olympics online pay for a package with MSNBC and CNBC. That is NBC Universal's offer.

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 04:41 PM

The special channels went up this afternoon ... and I agree, they should have been up earlier. I guess DISH forgot the schedule.

DirecTV's "Entertainment" package costs $10 (22%) more than DISH's AT120. It offers a $9 discount off of "Choice" in exchange for a few sports channels. People get what they pay for. If you want the Olympics online pay for a package with MSNBC and CNBC. That is NBC Universal's offer.


One could always upgrade their package to AT200 today, get the streaming set up, and then go back to AT120 after the Olympics. I assume they will pro-rate it with billing, so you will only pay about half of the price difference for a month.
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Posted 25 July 2012 - 05:11 PM

One could always upgrade their package to AT200 today, get the streaming set up, and then go back to AT120 after the Olympics. I assume they will pro-rate it with billing, so you will only pay about half of the price difference for a month.



Or if you have ATHD120 like I do don't change a thing,because NBC will be covering alot of what is on the other channels with their local broadcast coverage.;)

The last time I watched the Olympics I had the higher priced packages and it always seemed when I watched the local channel coverage I was watching repeats.This time will be my first HD Olympics and because it's NBC I will need to view the OTA broadcast through my VIP922's MT2 so I can turn 1080i into 720p which I like better.;):D

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 05:23 PM

One could always upgrade their package to AT200 today, get the streaming set up, and then go back to AT120 after the Olympics. I assume they will pro-rate it with billing, so you will only pay about half of the price difference for a month.

"A programming change fee of $5 is applied when you remove services within 30 days of adding them." - DISH

The difference between AT120 and AT200 is $15. One might as well leave it on for the full 30 days for the cost of removing it sooner.

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 07:43 PM

There is no good reason why Dish did not get its act together and got the soccer on this morning. And then, even more Dish subscribers could have seen the game.

Anyone who is interested in the USA/FRA women's match can watch the reply at 7:30pm pacific on the NBC soccer channel.


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Are you talking about Women's soccer? It WAS and IS on Dish, live, channel 159.




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