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#26 OFFLINE   Maruuk

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 02:07 AM

Why would these particular Olympics make any reference to a 40 year old terrorist attack? Except to satisfy the incessant din from the Israelis for "special" attention and consideration.

The 7/7 attack came as a direct response to London landing these games. It happened in LONDON. The Olympics are in LONDON. The opening ceremony was about English history featuring London as the centerpiece. It's fully relevant. The Israeli event is ancient history which happened long ago and far away. It had more than sufficient coverage at the time, and over the subsequent years. Trotting it out yet again at an incongruous venue smacks far more of politics than humanitarianism.

The whining comment made about including it by the American bobblehead Friday night was bizarre and oddly contentious, almost like he was pushing an agenda. But how could that be?

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 03:06 AM

I managed to find a good torrent of the BBC broadcast - the whole ceremony, start to end with no commercials. Extra Arctic Monkeys song, the Frankie and June number was about 4 times longer than NBC showed, and there we're a bunch of other items you missed in the NBC one.

And while the BBC commentators only seemed to have the runs and needed only a little bit of Kaopectate for the mouth, it was nothing like the explosive diaherria of the mouth that the NBC announcers seemed to be suffering.

If you think you were pissed at NBC's coverage before, you'll be even more upset at NBC once you see the BBC broadcast.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 05:29 AM

I don't understand why important events like this can't be shown commercial-free.




A. It isn't important.

B. Money Rules All. All Hail the Great Money. Thou Shalt Not Slight the Mighty Money.



As to whatever it is that seems to have people's panties all bunched up ...... anything that even MIGHT have caused any kind of controversy should not have been included at all. This is about playing games, but not playing mind games.
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Posted 29 July 2012 - 07:40 AM

I managed to find a good torrent of the BBC broadcast - the whole ceremony, start to end with no commercials. Extra Arctic Monkeys song, the Frankie and June number was about 4 times longer than NBC showed, and there we're a bunch of other items you missed in the NBC one.

And while the BBC commentators only seemed to have the runs and needed only a little bit of Kaopectate for the mouth, it was nothing like the explosive diaherria of the mouth that the NBC announcers seemed to be suffering.

If you think you were pissed at NBC's coverage before, you'll be even more upset at NBC once you see the BBC broadcast.


Agreed, it would have been nice to hear the music that the announcers were telling us was playing. I do believe I could have recognized The Rolling Stones and Kinks without some self-centered announcer describing how she remembered them playing in her youth. I wonder how those at the ceremony knew what was going on without such announcers to describe the event in such complete and sickening detail.
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Posted 29 July 2012 - 08:09 AM

A. It isn't important.

B. Money Rules All. All Hail the Great Money. Thou Shalt Not Slight the Mighty Money.

As to whatever it is that seems to have people's panties all bunched up ...... anything that even MIGHT have caused any kind of controversy should not have been included at all. This is about playing games, but not playing mind games.


Someone can make some sort of controversy about a lot of the ceremony, including the Industrial Revolution, National Health Service, Rowan Atkinson, the Queen stunt double etc etc. The Beijing ceremony was very highly regarded, but extremely controversial. But if the test is, could it possibly cause any sort of controversy, there always will be some group that would oblige.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 08:21 AM

Funny, if I hadn't seen this thread I wouldn't know there was a controversy at all. Doesn't seem to me like a big outrage except right here.
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Posted 29 July 2012 - 08:28 AM

Funny, if I hadn't seen this thread I wouldn't know there was a controversy at all. Doesn't seem to me like a big outrage except right here.


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Posted 29 July 2012 - 08:31 AM

I don't understand why important events like this can't be shown commercial-free. Or why anything needed to be cut or compressed (like the Parade of Nations) if it wasn't live anyway.


Commercial free? You are kidding, right? What do you think is paying for all of that 'free' streaming you have access to on all of your digital devices, much less the 'on air' broadcast themselves?

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 08:36 AM

Don;t read the news, huh?

I read the news but this is a small controversy, played large here and elsewhere on the Internet. It only has legs because it fits into people's preconceived notions: "NBC is liberal so they left out a tribute to the dead." - and - "Americans are insensitive and self centered so they don't care about the rest of the world."

Do I really need to point out that both opinions are oversimplifications of reality?
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Posted 29 July 2012 - 08:38 AM

Don;t read the news, huh?


I certainly do. That was my point, I only heard about this here so clearly it's not some huge world outrage thing.
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Posted 29 July 2012 - 08:48 AM

I certainly do. That was my point, I only heard about this here so clearly it's not some huge world outrage thing.


Well, we are the only country to omit the broadcasted tribute. It has been featured in the news here, substantially so.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 09:00 AM

Seems to me some folks are looking too hard for something to be offended about.

Personally, I nodded off right after the US team came into the stadium. :zzz:

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 09:03 AM

I don't watch network news, but I haven't see any mention of it (yet) on the web news pages. But then again, I have anything sports related more or less excluded.

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Seems to me some folks are looking too hard for something to be offended about.


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Posted 29 July 2012 - 09:06 AM

I don't watch network news, but I haven't see any mention of it (yet) on the web news pages. But then again, I have anything sports related more or less excluded.


https://www.google.c...iw=1366&bih=650

2,480 results there. Many others that aren't captured.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 09:33 AM

Commercial free? You are kidding, right? What do you think is paying for all of that 'free' streaming you have access to on all of your digital devices, much less the 'on air' broadcast themselves?


Ah, the monthly subscription fee perhaps? Surely that could cover a 4 hour show. Since it was delayed, they could have even showed the commercials without cutting out any of the ceremony.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 09:47 AM

7/7 was not mentioned in the London 2012 Olympic Games Opening Ceremony Media Guide (PDF) for the event. This is how the segment was described (pg 32):

Abide With Me
Duration: 00:05:51

The beautiful hymn ‘Abide With Me’ was written by Henry Francis Lyte in 1847 on his deathbed. He passed away three weeks after finishing it. Its honest expression of the fear of approaching death has made it popular with people of all religions and none.

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Spectators have been invited to present images of loved ones who couldn’t be with us tonight. In a moving moment, those who are absent from us are digitally present.

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Emeli Sandé sings ‘Abide With Me’. Fifty dancers, including the choreographer Akram Khan, dramatise the struggle between life and death using such powerful images of mortality as dust and the setting sun.

Described as spectators presenting images of loved ones ... not "a moving tribute to 7/7". At least not in the official media guide written by games organizers.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 09:49 AM

7/7 was not mentioned in the London 2012 Olympic Games Opening Ceremony Media Guide (PDF - pg 32) for the event. This is how the segment was described:

Abide With Me
Duration: 00:05:51

The beautiful hymn ‘Abide With Me’ was written by Henry Francis Lyte in 1847
on his deathbed. He passed away three weeks after finishing it. Its honest
expression of the fear of approaching death has made it popular with people
of all religions and none.

Memorial Wall
Spectators have been invited to present images of loved ones who couldn’t be with us tonight. In a moving moment, those who are absent from us are digitally present.

Akram Khan and Emeli Sandé
Emeli Sandé sings ‘Abide With Me’. Fifty dancers, including the choreographer Akram Khan, dramatise the struggle between life and death using such powerful images of mortality as dust and the setting sun.

Described as spectators presenting images of loved ones ... not "a moving tribute to 7/7". At least not in the official media guide written by games organizers.


Still doesn't excuse the absence of it from the NBC broadcast.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 09:58 AM

Still doesn't excuse the absence of it from the NBC broadcast.


Excuse it? They need you to excuse them?

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 10:25 AM

Well, we are the only country to omit the broadcasted tribute. It has been featured in the news here, substantially so.


Not on the news here, haven't seen it on the national news, cnn.com or foxnews.com. *shrug*
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Posted 29 July 2012 - 10:31 AM

:: Double shrug ::
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Posted 29 July 2012 - 10:55 AM

I certainly do. That was my point, I only heard about this here so clearly it's not some huge world outrage thing.


I doubt most of the world knows about it as they all saw it. So no outrage.

Everyone who has heard about it is outraged.

Kind of hard to be mad about something you don't know about.

I am ticked because they edited someone else's art and had the balls to say that it was a good show because they didn't have to edit much. Nothing political in that. Just hubris.
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Posted 29 July 2012 - 10:56 AM

Not on the news here, haven't seen it on the national news, cnn.com or foxnews.com. *shrug*


Good. Stay uninformed and then say it was okay because you don't know about it.

I've seen it all over the Internet. I don't watch tv news.
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Posted 29 July 2012 - 11:06 AM

Excuse it? They need you to excuse them?


Me? I never said any such thing.
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Posted 29 July 2012 - 11:06 AM

Not on the news here, haven't seen it on the national news, cnn.com or foxnews.com. *shrug*


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Posted 29 July 2012 - 11:10 AM

I doubt most of the world knows about it as they all saw it. So no outrage.


From the posts here we're lead to believe there is world outrage.

Everyone who has heard about it is outraged.


I'm not, please don't speak for me.

I am ticked because they edited someone else's art and had the balls to say that it was a good show because they didn't have to edit much. Nothing political in that. Just hubris.


It was edited for time, you knew that going in.
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