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#26 OFFLINE   gusmahler

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 04:06 PM

There are still plenty of people out there who can't get enough of Phelps, even if it's in a prelim where he's going to give less than 100% effort and still win fairly handily anyway. But again, if you give viewers reason and opportunity to skip qualifying rounds, then that extra bump of viewers you might get from having live coverage is going to get wasted away from those who won't be there for the heats.

IIRC, the prime time shows never show the qualifying, only the finals. I know that on Saturday, they will be showing the qualifying for the 400IM in a separate show at 12:30 pm PDT, while the finals will be shown on Prime Time (8+ hours after the race)

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#27 OFFLINE   fluffybear

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 04:12 PM

So what does everything think of the Opening Ceremonies so far?

Nothing? Oh, silly me. What was I thinking? Americans can't view the opening ceremonies for hours, even though they are happening right now!


Like a number of Americans, I work during the time when the opening ceremony would have been carried live so I'm not sure how many people are going to care and that is the only thing NBC cares about - Number of eyes in front of the TV.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 04:12 PM

I guess I better keep the battery on my iPad fully charged as it looks like it will be doing a lot of mirroring to the Apple TV and Big Screen.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 04:45 PM

Like a number of Americans, I work during the time when the opening ceremony would have been carried live so I'm not sure how many people are going to care and that is the only thing NBC cares about - Number of eyes in front of the TV.

If you are/were able to enjoy them live, enjoy!!


People in Canada work as well. They just offer the OPTION of live coverage, and repeat it at night for those who work.

NBC doesn't even offer an online stream.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 04:52 PM

Yep, was going to say the same thing. On their website, they brag that they stream *every* event live. But they don't mention that they aren't streaming the Opening Ceremonies.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:09 PM

Yep, was going to say the same thing. On their website, they brag that they stream *every* event live. But they don't mention that they aren't streaming the Opening Ceremonies.


That's why I was upset at this. Their advertising was something like "if cameras are on it, we'll stream it." Pretty sure there are cameras here and it's a lame excuse for them to say it won't translate well online.

I understand them not showing it on TV live, I have no problem with that whatsoever. But if they're showing everything else live online, why not the ceremonies. And apparently some have already taken note..
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:18 PM

People in Canada work as well. They just offer the OPTION of live coverage, and repeat it at night for those who work.

NBC doesn't even offer an online stream.


CBC is a government owned network (we won't even get in to that Canada is considered to be an independent commonwealth where Queen Elizabeth II is the head of state) so profits really don't matter.

NBC & their affiliates are not government owned and must make a profit to survive. As an affiliate, do I want to give up 4 hours of my programming day & ad spots for a small group of people to watch the opening ceremonies live?

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:25 PM

That's why I was upset at this. Their advertising was something like "if cameras are on it, we'll stream it." Pretty sure there are cameras here and it's a lame excuse for them to say it won't translate well online.

I understand them not showing it on TV live, I have no problem with that whatsoever. But if they're showing everything else live online, why not the ceremonies. And apparently some have already taken note..
NBC ripped for not livestreaming opening ceremony of Olympics


There is no excuse for not showing it live online when they are showing everything else online. This has to be the stupidest thing any producer has ever done in the history of mankind.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:38 PM

There is no excuse for not showing it live online when they are showing everything else online. This has to be the stupidest thing any producer has ever done in the history of mankind.


Not even close. I won't even mention Heidi!:sure: Or dozens of other boneheaded moves over the decades.

You don't like it, but you're in no position to look at real numbers, with real analysts to make the call as to what's smart or not from the producer's viewpoint.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:47 PM

Not even close. I won't even mention Heidi!:sure: Or dozens of other boneheaded moves over the decades.

You don't like it, but you're in no position to look at real numbers, with real analysts to make the call as to what's smart or not from the producer's viewpoint.

just tell us one reason this makes sense...

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:49 PM

just tell us one reason this makes sense...


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Posted 27 July 2012 - 06:33 PM

Matt Lauer needs a muzzle.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 06:45 PM

All I could think of in the beginning was that Middle Earth sprung up in the middle of the stadium and Frodo, Gandolf and Bilbo were going to pop out of a hole somewhere.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 06:54 PM

All I could think of in the beginning was that Middle Earth sprung up in the middle of the stadium and Frodo, Gandolf and Bilbo were going to pop out of a hole somewhere.


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Posted 27 July 2012 - 07:00 PM

What gets me is every internet feed which either carried or had the opening ceremonies have been blocked. Why? I don't want to wait to see the ceremonies in a tape delay.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 07:04 PM

CBC is a government owned network (we won't even get in to that Canada is considered to be an independent commonwealth where Queen Elizabeth II is the head of state) so profits really don't matter.

NBC & their affiliates are not government owned and must make a profit to survive. As an affiliate, do I want to give up 4 hours of my programming day & ad spots for a small group of people to watch the opening ceremonies live?

What, they don't air commercials during the Olympics? What even makes you think that Judge Judy or whatever the NBC affiliates air on random Fridays in summer would get higher ratings than the Olympic opening ceremony? Plus, they'll be showing Olympics for the next two weeks anyway. What's one more day?

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 07:29 PM

Every sport in the world is live except for the Olympics. Ridiculous.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 07:51 PM

Every sport in the world is live except for the Olympics. Ridiculous.


Not necessarily - the most recent 3 Formula One races were shown on FOX on a 4 hour tape delay.

As to the Olympics coverage, I noticed on NBC Sports Network (603) the score guide has been replaced by an Olympics interactive feature. It doesn't seem to be active yet, as when I pushed the red button a screen pops up that say "Loading" but nothing else happens.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 07:53 PM

Irony. Matt Lauer says "images that will be all over the web in a matter of seconds" but delayed by hours by NBC in the USA.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 07:53 PM

Not necessarily - the most recent 3 Formula One races were shown on FOX on a 4 hour tape delay.

As to the Olympics coverage, I noticed on NBC Sports Network (603) the score guide has been replaced by an Olympics interactive feature. It doesn't seem to be active yet, as when I pushed the red button a screen pops up that say "Loading" but nothing else happens.


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Posted 27 July 2012 - 08:49 PM

What, they don't air commercials during the Olympics? What even makes you think that Judge Judy or whatever the NBC affiliates air on random Fridays in summer would get higher ratings than the Olympic opening ceremony? Plus, they'll be showing Olympics for the next two weeks anyway. What's one more day?


Someone explained this to me elsewhere and I wasn't entirely aware of this..

The United States is the only country in the world where over-the-air transmitters (i.e. the affiliates) are not one in the same from the networks that own and run them. It's not so simple as to say which of the 2 would get better ratings. A syndicated show like Judge Judy, just like the local news, generate more revenue for an affiliate than a national broadcast with only a few local breaks does. So for an affiliate, their best bet is to keep their blocks of local programming intact and get a nice healthy lead-in to local news from a big draw national telecast like the Opening Ceremony. That's why you can't ask these affiliates (who chip in some of the cash to pay for the rights fees) to offer up more and more hours of programming during the late afternoon to the network. Especially when they've already handed over their entire afternoons for the next 2 1/2 weeks.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 09:20 PM

Been working for me.


Well I did an RBR and still nothing but the "Loading" screen for me. Maybe I'll check back in the morning to see if something comes up (it will hardly be the end of the world if it doesn't).

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 09:46 PM

Someone explained this to me elsewhere and I wasn't entirely aware of this..

The United States is the only country in the world where over-the-air transmitters (i.e. the affiliates) are not one in the same from the networks that own and run them. It's not so simple as to say which of the 2 would get better ratings. A syndicated show like Judge Judy, just like the local news, generate more revenue for an affiliate than a national broadcast with only a few local breaks does. So for an affiliate, their best bet is to keep their blocks of local programming intact and get a nice healthy lead-in to local news from a big draw national telecast like the Opening Ceremony. That's why you can't ask these affiliates (who chip in some of the cash to pay for the rights fees) to offer up more and more hours of programming during the late afternoon to the network. Especially when they've already handed over their entire afternoons for the next 2 1/2 weeks.


Whoever explained that as being why they where delaying final races and such till night is full of it. They still have the Olympics on most the day. The only difference is they aren't going to show any final events till late at night. Check the schedule for next week. NBC is solid Olympics from after the national broadcast of the today show till the afternoon local news at 4 or so depending on your area. They will have no syndicated shows on during the Olympics on NBC, so that concept is incorrect.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 01:23 AM

The coverage was so terrible tonight I switched over to the White Sox game instead. Sooo many commercials...ugh.
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Posted 28 July 2012 - 01:33 AM

would love to be watching shooting right now guess they don't want everything to be shown live
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