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Uplink Activity for August 2012


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#51 OFFLINE   runner861

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 10:47 AM

So these stations uplinked to 148 are completely false? Or uplinked to nowhere?

Or is Dish planning to reoccupy the space at 148 on some future date? No one apparently knows.

And what good do distants do at that location? Just spaceholders? Or does Dish want to make 148 the location for RV customers to purchase distants from various cities, and also make it a location for a la carte nationwide distants (although both are a limited market)?

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 11:49 AM

perhaps spaceholders of some type. Each time zone, Chicago being E & C, for backup conus signals if & when there is some interruption with a local in the particular time zone. Directv does this with NY & LA. However, I wouldn't think 148 would be an option...that's as bad as 61.5...out of range for most...something over the central US would be more reasonable...72.7, 110.

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 11:55 AM

perhaps spaceholders of some type. Each time zone, Chicago being E & C, for backup conus signals if & when there is some interruption with a local in the particular time zone. Directv does this with NY & LA. However, I wouldn't think 148 would be an option...that's as bad as 61.5...out of range for most...something over the central US would be more reasonable...72.7, 110.


That could be a possibility, but, like you say, it would make more sense to uplink to satellites that everyone is seeing, like 72.7 and 110. And they would need HD and SD uplinked from NY and LA, or comparable cities. And they could add Denver for Mountain time. Actually, didn't Denver just go up on the uplink report?

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 12:04 PM

Just a thought--Does some other satellite company own/lease a satellite at the 148 location? Perhaps that company is purchasing uplink services from Dish in order to sell distants from a variety of cities. It wouldn't really seem like a moneymaker, but who knows? A quick review of the uplinks tells me that NY and Denver and Chicago are uplinked in SD and HD, but LA is only uplinked in SD. I would think that LA should go up in HD as well, as well as a few other cities--maybe Phoenix, Portland, Seattle, Atlanta, Boston, Dallas, Boise, Salt Lake City, Honolulu, and San Francisco.

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 03:51 PM

7 changes seen 8/28/12 at 12:31pm ET (v31)

Channels Now Available
4071 LTD0 119° TP 16 SD Hidden - AVAILABLE

New Uplinks / Mappings - Channels NOT Available
6101 SXM Sirius/XM Music Channels added to 110° TP 3 (Audio *TEST* Hidden) No EPG
6102 SXM Sirius/XM Music Channels added to 110° TP 3 (Audio *TEST* Hidden) No EPG
6103 SXM Sirius/XM Music Channels added to 110° TP 3 (Audio *TEST* Hidden) No EPG
6104 SXM Sirius/XM Music Channels added to 110° TP 3 (Audio *TEST* Hidden) No EPG
6105 SXM Sirius/XM Music Channels added to 110° TP 3 (Audio *TEST* Hidden) No EPG
6106 SXM Sirius/XM Music Channels added to 110° TP 3 (Audio *TEST* Hidden) No EPG

8679 Channels


6 changes seen 8/28/12 at 5:06pm ET (v01)

Other Changes
6101 SXM Sirius/XM Music Channels 110° TP 3 Audio *TEST* Hidden - EPG Added
6102 SXM Sirius/XM Music Channels 110° TP 3 Audio *TEST* Hidden - EPG Added
6103 SXM Sirius/XM Music Channels 110° TP 3 Audio *TEST* Hidden - EPG Added
6104 SXM Sirius/XM Music Channels 110° TP 3 Audio *TEST* Hidden - EPG Added
6105 SXM Sirius/XM Music Channels 110° TP 3 Audio *TEST* Hidden - EPG Added
6106 SXM Sirius/XM Music Channels 110° TP 3 Audio *TEST* Hidden - EPG Added

8679 Channels

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 05:03 PM

So these stations uplinked to 148 are completely false? Or uplinked to nowhere?

Or is Dish planning to reoccupy the space at 148 on some future date? No one apparently knows.

And what good do distants do at that location? Just spaceholders? Or does Dish want to make 148 the location for RV customers to purchase distants from various cities, and also make it a location for a la carte nationwide distants (although both are a limited market)?

The reports show changes in System Tables (meta data).

There is nothing regarding UPLINK, and just a description of downlink, not downlink itself.

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 05:07 AM

4 changes seen 8/29/12 at 4:56am ET (v05)

Preview Status Change
9612 MGM (385 HD) MGM Movie Channel 129° TP 17 HD Instant Order - Preview Ended
9612 MGM (385 HD) MGM Movie Channel 72.7° TP 20 HD Instant Order - Preview Ended

No Longer Available
385 MGM MGM Movie Channel 119° TP 21 SD *TEST* Hidden
385 MGM MGM Movie Channel 72.7° TP 22 SD MPEG4 *TEST* Hidden

8679 Channels

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 03:46 PM

1 change seen 8/29/12 at 11:37am ET (v08)

Channels Now Available
4071 LTD0 72.7° TP 21 SD MPEG4 Hidden - AVAILABLE

8679 Channels


42 changes seen 8/29/12 at 3:51pm ET (v10)

Channels Now Available
9891 TVSPT TVN Sport (Polish) 118° TP 2 SD Preview - AVAILABLE
9797 NATCL International Channel 118° TP 6 SD Hidden - AVAILABLE Subchannel Mapdown 600-08 Added

New Uplinks / Mappings - Channels Available
808 ZING Indus Music (Urdu) added to 118° TP 12 (SD Hidden) AVAILABLE
6146 WABC NEW YORK, NY (ABC) added to 72.7° TP 32 (HD Hidden) AVAILABLE EPG linked to 61.5° 15s3 (Bethpage) Ch 6300
6147 WCBS NEW YORK, NY (CBS) added to 72.7° TP 32 (HD Hidden) AVAILABLE EPG linked to 61.5° 15s3 (Bethpage) Ch 6301
6148 WNBC NEW YORK, NY (NBC) added to 72.7° TP 32 (HD Hidden) AVAILABLE EPG linked to 61.5° 15s3 (Bethpage) Ch 6302
6149 WNYW NEW YORK, NY (FOX) added to 72.7° TP 32 (HD Hidden) AVAILABLE EPG linked to 61.5° 15s3 (Bethpage) Ch 6303
6151 KMGH DENVER, CO (ABC) added to 61.5° TP 25 (HD Hidden) AVAILABLE EPG linked to 129° 4s19 (NC Colorado) Ch 6330
6152 KCNC DENVER, CO (CBS) added to 61.5° TP 25 (HD Hidden) AVAILABLE EPG linked to 129° 4s19 (NC Colorado) Ch 6331
6153 KUSA DENVER, CO (NBC) added to 61.5° TP 25 (HD Hidden) AVAILABLE EPG linked to 129° 4s19 (NC Colorado) Ch 6332
6154 KDVR DENVER, CO (FOX) added to 61.5° TP 25 (HD Hidden) AVAILABLE EPG linked to 129° 4s19 (NC Colorado) Ch 6333
6156 WLS CHICAGO, IL (ABC) added to 61.5° TP 25 (HD Hidden) AVAILABLE EPG linked to 129° 9s22 (Lake Michigan) Ch 6312
6157 WBBM CHICAGO, IL (CBS) added to 61.5° TP 25 (HD Hidden) AVAILABLE EPG linked to 129° 9s22 (Lake Michigan) Ch 6313
6158 WMAQ CHICAGO, IL (NBC) added to 61.5° TP 25 (HD Hidden) AVAILABLE EPG linked to 129° 9s22 (Lake Michigan) Ch 6314
6159 WFLD CHICAGO, IL (FOX) added to 61.5° TP 25 (HD Hidden) AVAILABLE EPG linked to 129° 9s22 (Lake Michigan) Ch 6315
6160 KABC LOS ANGELES, CA (ABC) added to 110° TP 17 (HD Hidden) AVAILABLE EPG linked to 110° TP 17 Ch 9591
6161 KCBS LOS ANGELES, CA (CBS) added to 110° TP 17 (HD Hidden) AVAILABLE EPG linked to 110° TP 17 Ch 9592
6162 KNBC LOS ANGELES, CA (NBC) added to 110° TP 17 (HD Hidden) AVAILABLE EPG linked to 110° TP 17 Ch 9593
6163 KTTV LOS ANGELES, CA (FOX) added to 110° TP 17 (HD Hidden) AVAILABLE EPG linked to 110° TP 17 Ch 9594
6695 WISE (13) FORT WAYNE, IN (NBC) SV* added to 110° 18s13 (South Michigan) (SD Lafayette, IN market Hidden) AVAILABLE
6515 WNKYD (10) BOWLING GREEN, KY (CBS) SV* added to 119° 4sB14 (Nashville) (SD Zanesville, OH market Hidden) AVAILABLE

Channels Renamed
738 PNJBI Punjabi TV renamed GETPJ Punjabi TV (118° TP 26 SD Hidden)
8844 WJAN MIAMI, FL renamed WFUN (41 Local) (119° 3sB21 (Miami) SD Miami, FL market Hidden)
8873 WJAN MIAMI, FL renamed WFUN (41 Local) (119° 3sB21 (Miami) SD West Palm Beach, FL market Hidden)
8873 WJAN MIAMI, FL renamed WFUN (41 Local) (61.5° 31s25 (S Nevada) SD MPEG4 West Palm Beach, FL market Hidden)

Channels Renumbered
808 B4UMU renumbered 6224 on 118° TP 23 (SD Hidden)

Package Flag Change
260 TBN TBN 119° TP 9 SD - Package Flag Change (was SD Instant Order) x8C:7 Channel Groups Removed (12)
260 TBN TBN 72.7° TP 15 SD MPEG4 - Package Flag Change (was SD MPEG4 Instant Order) x8C:7 Channel Groups Removed (12)
6225 DISH (37 Local) 119° TP 14 SD Abilene, TX market Hidden - Package Flag Change x8C:9 Channel Groups Added (12)
6225 DISH (37 Local) 72.7° TP 14 SD MPEG4 Abilene, TX market Hidden - Package Flag Change x8C:9 Channel Groups Added (12)
6556 WVVA2 (47 Local) BLUEFIELD, WV (NBC) 77° TP 21 SD MPEG4 Bluefield/Oak Hill, WV market Hidden - Package Flag Change Mapdown Changed (was 47)
7214 WAOW2 (10 Local) WAUSAU, WI (ABC) 129° 12s15 (NE Wisconsin) SD Wausau, WI market Hidden - Package Flag Change Mapdown Changed (was 10) x8C: Channel Group Removed (2)

Preview Status Change
749 TV5NW TV5 News (Arabic) 118° TP 29 SD Hidden - Preview Ended
7129 MBCDR MBC Drama (Arabic) 118° TP 20 SD Hidden - Preview Ended

Other Changes
7081 WMLW (49 Local) MILWAUKEE, WI 119° 4sB12 (Madison) SD Milwaukee, WI market Hidden - Mapdown Changed (was 41 Local)
7081 WMLW (49 Local) MILWAUKEE, WI 61.5° 19s61 (St Louis) SD MPEG4 Milwaukee, WI market Hidden - Mapdown Changed (was 41 Local)
7082 WBME (41 Local) RACINE, WI 110° 4s18 (Lake Michigan) SD Milwaukee, WI market Hidden - Mapdown Changed (was 49 Local)
7082 WBME (41 Local) RACINE, WI 61.5° 19s61 (St Louis) SD MPEG4 Milwaukee, WI market Hidden - Mapdown Changed (was 49 Local)
5752 TPGM 118° TP 13 ITV Hidden
4071 LTD0 72.7° TP 21 SD MPEG4 Hidden - EPG Removed (Was Reference EPG linked to 119° TP 16 Ch 4071)

Uplinks Removed
385 MGM MGM Movie Channel removed from 119° TP 21 (SD *TEST* Hidden)
385 MGM MGM Movie Channel removed from 72.7° TP 22 (SD MPEG4 *TEST* Hidden)

8696 Channels

Edited by James Long, 29 August 2012 - 03:53 PM.


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Posted 29 August 2012 - 03:56 PM

[quote name='James Long']1 change seen 8/29/12 at 11:37am ET (v08)

New Uplinks / Mappings - Channels Available
6146 WABC NEW YORK, NY (ABC) added to 72.7° TP 32 (HD Hidden) AVAILABLE EPG linked to 61.5° 15s3 (Bethpage) Ch 6300
6147 WCBS NEW YORK, NY (CBS) added to 72.7° TP 32 (HD Hidden) AVAILABLE EPG linked to 61.5° 15s3 (Bethpage) Ch 6301
6148 WNBC NEW YORK, NY (NBC) added to 72.7° TP 32 (HD Hidden) AVAILABLE EPG linked to 61.5° 15s3 (Bethpage) Ch 6302
6149 WNYW NEW YORK, NY (FOX) added to 72.7° TP 32 (HD Hidden) AVAILABLE EPG linked to 61.5° 15s3 (Bethpage) Ch 6303
6151 KMGH DENVER, CO (ABC) added to 61.5° TP 25 (HD Hidden) AVAILABLE EPG linked to 129° 4s19 (NC Colorado) Ch 6330
6152 KCNC DENVER, CO (CBS) added to 61.5° TP 25 (HD Hidden) AVAILABLE EPG linked to 129° 4s19 (NC Colorado) Ch 6331
6153 KUSA DENVER, CO (NBC) added to 61.5° TP 25 (HD Hidden) AVAILABLE EPG linked to 129° 4s19 (NC Colorado) Ch 6332
6154 KDVR DENVER, CO (FOX) added to 61.5° TP 25 (HD Hidden) AVAILABLE EPG linked to 129° 4s19 (NC Colorado) Ch 6333
6156 WLS CHICAGO, IL (ABC) added to 61.5° TP 25 (HD Hidden) AVAILABLE EPG linked to 129° 9s22 (Lake Michigan) Ch 6312
6157 WBBM CHICAGO, IL (CBS) added to 61.5° TP 25 (HD Hidden) AVAILABLE EPG linked to 129° 9s22 (Lake Michigan) Ch 6313
6158 WMAQ CHICAGO, IL (NBC) added to 61.5° TP 25 (HD Hidden) AVAILABLE EPG linked to 129° 9s22 (Lake Michigan) Ch 6314
6159 WFLD CHICAGO, IL (FOX) added to 61.5° TP 25 (HD Hidden) AVAILABLE EPG linked to 129° 9s22 (Lake Michigan) Ch 6315
6160 KABC LOS ANGELES, CA (ABC) added to 110° TP 17 (HD Hidden) AVAILABLE EPG linked to 110° TP 17 Ch 9591
6161 KCBS LOS ANGELES, CA (CBS) added to 110° TP 17 (HD Hidden) AVAILABLE EPG linked to 110° TP 17 Ch 9592
6162 KNBC LOS ANGELES, CA (NBC) added to 110° TP 17 (HD Hidden) AVAILABLE EPG linked to 110° TP 17 Ch 9593
6163 KTTV LOS ANGELES, CA (FOX) added to 110° TP 17 (HD Hidden) AVAILABLE EPG linked to 110° TP 17 Ch 9594


Any idea what is going on here? Aren't the LA HD distants uplinked to where they were when AAD was still offering the service? Is AAD going to start offering HD distants again?

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 04:58 PM

Any idea what is going on here? Aren't the LA HD distants uplinked to where they were when AAD was still offering the service? Is AAD going to start offering HD distants again?

The Los Angeles and New York distants are on the same transponders as the existing channels. The Chicago and Denver channels are new, all on a transponder typically used for testing.

Mysterious are the ways of the DISH.

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 05:28 PM

The Los Angeles and New York distants are on the same transponders as the existing channels. The Chicago and Denver channels are new, all on a transponder typically used for testing.

Mysterious are the ways of the DISH.


I appreciate the work you do posting this information and explaining it. It seems like it doesn't make sense, but then nothing makes sense until it does.

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 08:33 PM

My theory, with Denver and Chicago, is eventually to provide the ability for "distants" by having major network affiliates available in each time zone. More so for situations like a city does not have a nearby ABC, so if one lives in the Central Time Zone, they would get WLS from Chicago. Live in Jackson, Wyoming, no nearby CBS, you may get KCNC from Denver. Sort of the way they now do CW and MyTV in some ares today. Just a theory.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 05:11 PM

2 changes seen 8/31/12 at 6:56pm ET (v27)

Other Changes
6515 WNKYD (10 Local) BOWLING GREEN, KY (CBS) SV* 119° 4sB14 (Nashville) SD Zanesville, OH market Hidden - Mapdown Changed (was 10)
6695 WISE (13 Local) FORT WAYNE, IN (NBC) SV* 110° 18s13 (South Michigan) SD Lafayette, IN market Hidden - Mapdown Changed (was 13)

8696 Channels

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 11:06 AM

My theory, with Denver and Chicago, is eventually to provide the ability for "distants" by having major network affiliates available in each time zone. More so for situations like a city does not have a nearby ABC, so if one lives in the Central Time Zone, they would get WLS from Chicago. Live in Jackson, Wyoming, no nearby CBS, you may get KCNC from Denver. Sort of the way they now do CW and MyTV in some ares today. Just a theory.


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