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No NASA HD on D*?!?


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#21 OFFLINE   inkahauts

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 01:36 PM

This channel is only available off of a mpeg4 feed now, right? If so, the only way to get it is to have Hd capable equipment. If so, I say dump the sd feed and only carry the Hi Definition feed. Maybe when d14 hits. There are many channels that I believe that are like this, and the shopping channels, that I kind of expect to launch with d14 when bandwidth will be far less of a limited resource.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 01:37 PM

I could be wrong, but I'm not aware of any major television provider carrying NASA in HD. I believe UStream carries it in HD online, but maybe someone can point me to where NASA is carried in HD by a television provider. Maybe there is one out there, but not sure who.

Brighthouse in Orlando, FL has it on channel 1230. (They just added it in early June, and its currently 'limited' availability less then 50% of there serviced areas)
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 01:43 PM

Brighthouse in Orlando, FL has it on channel 1230. (They just added it in early June)


But he did say "major provider"....
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 03:05 PM

Well Roku carries it in HD. I watched it last night for a while. My hd was partly blocking because at best my att dsl is 5+meg so somewhat limited. People with cable internet should have good picture on roku. I love IPTV if I could just get faster internet, but I live in the boondocks. Thankful for what I got.
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 04:34 PM

I actually watched it on my iPhone, came in perfectly clear. Was watching Olympics on the main TV, and as soon as the landing was getting really close I switched to NASA TV briefly on the TV. Great stream though on the iPhone, was maybe 1 second behind the TV.
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 06:10 PM

I could be wrong, but I'm not aware of any major television provider carrying NASA in HD. I believe UStream carries it in HD online, but maybe someone can point me to where NASA is carried in HD by a television provider. Maybe there is one out there, but not sure who.


Brighthouse has already been mentioned, but the HD Channel Lineups Chart over at AVS Forums indicates that Brighthouse is the only one.

The AVS chart is a bit controversial around here, but it can be a starting point for information about what HD channels are available on the various major service providers.
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 06:43 PM

From the "For What It's Worth Department" . . .

I was watching the UStream HD feed last night on my laptop while also running the JPL "Eyes on the Solar System" Java app with the mission simulation in another window, which was sync'd to the pre-launch estimated timelines and updated with telemetry as it came in. The Ustream feed seemed to vary from 20 - 30 seconds behind the "live" Eyes on the Solar System simulation. I could check this periodically, as the NASA TV feed would show the same Eyes simulation on-screen that I was also running locally on my Mac making it easy to see and compare the elapsed time and time remaining indicators on each.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 07:18 PM

Directv should set up a barker Public Access channels in HD on demand. This way we can stream them via the web in HD on our Directv boxes. CSPAN, NASA, other public service channels, etc.
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 09:33 PM

NASA HD looked incredible tonight on Directv!...SCI (ch. 284) had a Mars Rover 2012 special with NASA HD footage. On again, 1am est.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 10:19 PM

Thanks. Got home just now, and so have set for a 10 PM PDT recording thereof!
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 10:20 PM

This channel is only available off of a mpeg4 feed now, right? If so, the only way to get it is to have Hd capable equipment. If so, I say dump the sd feed and only carry the Hi Definition feed. Maybe when d14 hits. There are many channels that I believe that are like this, and the shopping channels, that I kind of expect to launch with d14 when bandwidth will be far less of a limited resource.



By moving it to HD only from SD you're talking about 5X the bandwidth for that channel vs today's usage for SD for that channel. Then the next question becomes, would you rather have Nasa in HD or something else in HD? There are always tradeoffs. Someone should go back here on DBS Talk and see how NASA ranked vs the others. I'll bet it was way down the list.

Also keep in mind that Nasa is a public interest channel and they are treated in a different manner than regular channels. Nasa is at an orbital slot right now because as a public interest channel, DTV is required to put a certain percentage (4%) per channel allocation to public interests. That is why they moved NASA and Baby First over to the MPEG4 slot at 103 or 99 degrees to begin with.

I think there is a reason why almost no one carries NASA in HD. It's definitely a cool channel and right now some very cool things going on with Mars and the rover, but the average citizen would rate it fairly low on their list, otherwise you would have every major carrier with that channel. Bandwidth is precious for everyone - telco, cable, satellite - decisions have to be made how to utilize that bandwidth. On this channels, seems nearly unanimous how everyone is delivering it - in SD for the time being for everyone sans one small cable company in one market that happens to be the backyard of NASA.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 11:18 PM

Actually, Viacom did. :D

I was speaking of the channels that used to be sacrificed during sporting events to support NFL ST and similar money grabbing offerings.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 11:31 PM

By moving it to HD only from SD you're talking about 5X the bandwidth for that channel vs today's usage for SD for that channel. Then the next question becomes, would you rather have Nasa in HD or something else in HD? There are always tradeoffs. Someone should go back here on DBS Talk and see how NASA ranked vs the others. I'll bet it was way down the list.

Also keep in mind that Nasa is a public interest channel and they are treated in a different manner than regular channels. Nasa is at an orbital slot right now because as a public interest channel, DTV is required to put a certain percentage (4%) per channel allocation to public interests. That is why they moved NASA and Baby First over to the MPEG4 slot at 103 or 99 degrees to begin with.

I think there is a reason why almost no one carries NASA in HD. It's definitely a cool channel and right now some very cool things going on with Mars and the rover, but the average citizen would rate it fairly low on their list, otherwise you would have every major carrier with that channel. Bandwidth is precious for everyone - telco, cable, satellite - decisions have to be made how to utilize that bandwidth. On this channels, seems nearly unanimous how everyone is delivering it - in SD for the time being for everyone sans one small cable company in one market that happens to be the backyard of NASA.


As I said when d14 goes live maybe. At that point, I see no reason not to do that. They will have the bandwidth. I might even go so far to say they may have the bandwidth to have every channel in sd and hd that is available in hd.

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 04:37 AM

As I said when d14 goes live maybe. At that point, I see no reason not to do that. They will have the bandwidth. I might even go so far to say they may have the bandwidth to have every channel in sd and hd that is available in hd.


Yeah, yeah, yeah, D14 is going to bring us endless HD. Same thing was said before D12 went up, but then 5 of the 24 transponders ended up being dedicated for push, eliminating space for up to 30 new HD channels.

D14 is needed and may very well bring us many new HD offerings. But much of D14s capacity may be needed as older satellites need to be phased out. When D14 starts coming online in another 18 months or so, we may have a better idea of how the company plans to use that capacity.
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 04:52 AM

Please continue HD channel discussion in the HD channel thread.

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