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What Is With T.V. Land And The Commercials?


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#26 OFFLINE   Scott Kocourek

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 04:56 PM

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 05:08 PM

The Nick channels do it too and a couple of others. Maybe they're all ViaCon channels.
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Posted 16 August 2012 - 05:52 PM

I'm moving this to the TV Shows Forum where everyone can participate.


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Posted 16 August 2012 - 07:51 PM

So what's your solution, john262? Have them cut the program to smithereens to fit in the normal 15-16 minutes of commercials an hour?

Another alternative would be to insert only the 7-8 minutes of commercials per hour that was common in the 1960s and 1970s. That isn't a realistic choice. If you were TVLand and could either run M*A*S*H with 4 minutes of commercials or, say, Friends, with 8 minutes of commercials, which would you run?

Why isn't that a realistic choice? The networks used to get by just fine with less commercial time so why can't they now? But now it's all about greed. My solution is for Viacom to be less greedy and accept fewer commercial spots. And if they refuse the viewers should boycott them until they do.

Viacom Reports 33 Percent Gain in Profit:

http://mediadecoder....ain-in-profits/

A 33 percent gain in profit? They sure aren't hurting. Cut back their commercials spots and make a 25 percent gain in profit. They will still be doing just fine. And while they're at it cut their CEO's multimillion dollar salary.

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 11:40 PM

Why don't they just leave the commercial content alone and have the sponsor pay more for the limited slots. Half the time, they're just the same block of commercials, that they just keep replaying. Getting upset with them continually playing the abused animals slot, a few times every hour. Less commercials, get more from the sponsors! My only idea for this dilemma.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 03:25 AM

So john262's solution is for Viacom to make less money selling commercials on TVLand.

And PrinceLH's answer is for Viacom to charge more for fewer commercials.

If the ratings decline far enough on TVLand, and Viacom can tie that to viewer disgust over too many commercials, then john262's solution could work.

If the ratings rise on TVLand and Viacom can determine that is because of viewer satisfaction with seeing less commercials, then PrinceLH has the answer.

Personally, I don't see either possibility happening. I think more commercials is the obvious answer, especially for older shows with fewer avails. There is only so much Viacom can charge for the 9,263rd rerun of an episode of The Andy Griffith Show. And even with that show's continued popularily, there are only so many people who will watch it.

Edited by Carl Spock, 17 August 2012 - 03:38 AM.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 04:23 AM

I've seen all the ads on TV Land as well...although....it seems like many networks are adding commerical/advertising time. They are not alone.

The channel self-promotions are getting annoying at times on multiple channels as well.
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Posted 17 August 2012 - 04:39 AM

I remember when we added TVLand to USSB around '95. We had it all ready to go, but we were only given a "thumbs up" with about 5 minutes notice.

I used to love when they were all about classic tv, and they would air old "retromercials" during commercial breaks.
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Posted 17 August 2012 - 09:23 AM

I am glad to see that I am not the only one that was thinking this about there stupid commercials.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 09:33 AM

I think more commercials is the obvious answer, especially for older shows with fewer avails.

What are you, a Viacom shareholder? Why are you taking the side of a greedy big corporation that is trying to shove more commercials down our throats?

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 10:15 AM

You've got me. I make ten cents each time Viacom runs a commercial.





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Posted 17 August 2012 - 11:29 AM

I remember when we added TVLand to USSB around '95. We had it all ready to go, but we were only given a "thumbs up" with about 5 minutes notice.

I used to love when they were all about classic tv, and they would air old "retromercials" during commercial breaks.


Back in 1996 we had TCI and TVLand shared a channel with A&E. Then they moved TVLand to digital. Of course they charged more.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 11:34 AM

The most overused words in 2012:

"greed" and "greedy"

It's become an epidemic. The words have almost lost all meaning.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 11:36 AM

I remember when we added TVLand to USSB around '95. We had it all ready to go, but we were only given a "thumbs up" with about 5 minutes notice.

I used to love when they were all about classic tv, and they would air old "retromercials" during commercial breaks.

Yes, I remember when TVLand first appeared. I remember when it first arrived, I was a C Band user and it was fantastic. So was Nick At Night, back then. Those retro commercials were excellent and I couldn't stop watching the format. Now, I just pick and choose what I watch on those channels. I'd rather watch Antenna TV or MeTV, because that is where most of the good content went. Too bad Directv wouldn't pick these two feeds up, full time.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 11:00 AM

The most overused words in 2012:

"greed" and "greedy"

It's become an epidemic. The words have almost lost all meaning.

Maybe those words are used more nowadays because the big corporations are more greedy nowadays.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 09:06 PM

*facepalm*

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 10:25 PM

Maybe those words are used more nowadays because the big corporations are more greedy nowadays.


No; corporations are not greedier than they were twenty years ago.
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Posted 18 August 2012 - 11:23 PM

Corporations aren't greedy because, the Supreme Court notwithstanding, they aren't people. Officers, board members, and shareholders can be greedy though.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 07:47 AM

Yep. Corporate types are just like the middle class and the poor in this regard:

Some of them are good, some of them are bad, and the majority of them are somewhere in between.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 11:24 AM

The biggest difference between big Wall Street corporations today versus yesterday is there is more of an emphasis on short term profits versus long term ones.

Both are money motivated.

Corporations are no less greedy today than 30 years ago, or even 120 years ago. In fact, it's easy to argue they were the greeediest back in the 1890s before there was much of any government regulation. Corporations did as they pleased with their employees, customers and stockholders.
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 11:29 AM

Corporations have to serve their masters. I don't mean that in a negative way, it's just the way it is. Those masters are the shareholders.

These days, shareholders are much quicker to scream "fiduciary malfeasance" when the stock price doesn't do well so the corps are all looking at the next quarter's numbers.

Kind of like how Verizon said they were going to string fiber to everyone - a project that would have untold benefits for the next century. After a couple of years, shareholder pressure said they were spending too much on investing in the future and demanded a stop to it (and we get that in politics as well).

Probably a coincidence, but MTV started in 1981 and was blamed for single-handedly reducing the attention span of Americans. Those Americans who watched MTV then are now in their 40s-60s.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 01:53 PM

Also, don't forget that corporations that are REALLY bad to their customers (whether in an effort to maximize profits, please shareholders, or whatever) typically aren't successful, or at best they don't thrive.

It's hard to make money if you screw your constantly customers, if those customers have better alternatives. That's the beauty of competition. And most industries, including TV providers and programmers, have at least some competition.

And those customers who sit back and allow themselves to be screwed instead of escaping to a better available alternative have nobody to blame but themselves.




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