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PAC 12 Network Added (was For fans of the PAC12, plz request PAC12 Network)


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#151 OFFLINE   speedy4022

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 02:43 AM

What a huge win for Dish Network over DirecTV. Great job!!!

I would not call it a huge win over directv but congrats on the new addition.
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#152 OFFLINE   APB101

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 03:23 AM

DirecTV subscriber here.

I get the feeling, with Dish Network having arrived first, that DirecTV will now become more favorable to making a deal to carry Pac-12 Network.

Congratulations to Dish Network … and, of course, likewise its subscribers!

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 04:26 AM

What a huge win for Dish Network over DirecTV. Great job!!!


So far it looks like the PAC 12's gain is the BTN's loss,

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#154 OFFLINE   Stewart Vernon

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 06:34 AM

This article (if accurate) might answer some questions, while raising others...

http://www.pacificta...3-online-stream

"Only the Pac-12 National Network will be carried, with the remainder of the content available on overflow channels."

"The regional channels will be available online via Pac-12 Now at a later date after the Pac-12 and Dish get everything installed in an orderly fashion."

"There could be one piece of bad news: If the original uplink was true, channel 413 was meant for standard definition ... However, it seems like the hope in the Pac-12 offices is that high-definition will be available soon, if not today."

So... it would seem like the national channel full-time, plus some part-time feeds for overflow games (presumably for football and maybe even basketball unlike the Big Ten deal).

Eventually support for the PAC-12 app and online access to the other regional feeds via streaming, but I gather Dish and PAC-12 need to get some stuff in place to make that happen so that might lag the rest of the deal by a couple of weeks I would guess.

Everybody is nebulous on HD... but clearly the PAC-12 intends Dish to pick-up their feeds in HD... so unless Dish has a bandwidth issue OR they have trouble actually getting the feed from the PAC-12 for some technical reason... my guess is they intend us to have HD today if possible, but if not then VERY soon.

All-around, this sounds like a pretty good deal... and from the press release that James posted, it sounds like Dish got some marketing considerations that help pay for these channels... so again, having them in HD would benefit everyone involved.

Now just waiting to see what lights up, when, and when the EPG gets an update for the games!

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 06:44 AM

With about 30+ sports channels now, did we really need another 12? Just like drugs... Some cannot get enough.

I'm not against sports... just don't want to end up paying more for programming that I don't watch and in many cases, don't have a choice. As long as your willing to pay, I'm happy.
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Posted 08 September 2012 - 07:09 AM

DirecTV subscriber here.

I get the feeling, with Dish Network having arrived first, that DirecTV will now become more favorable to making a deal to carry Pac-12 Network.

Congratulations to Dish Network … and, of course, likewise its subscribers!




Agree BUT Since Dish has landed the PAC12's stock just went up as they are now on a national provider so expect for Direct to have to pay more $$ and no word if Dish got Exclusive adversting on tv and stadiums,ect

Edited by rtd2, 08 September 2012 - 07:31 AM.


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Posted 08 September 2012 - 07:32 AM

A couple of phrases in the Pac-12 announcement are noteworthy. Apparently the Pac-12 sweetened the deal for Dish by granting some exclusive rights.

The new agreement also provides DISH with exclusive category sponsorship for Pac-12 athletic programs. The sponsorship includes stadium signage and logo rights with each of the member schools

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DISH and Pac-12 Networks announced today that they have entered into a multi-year agreement making DISH the only satellite provider to offer the sports programming ...


Does anyone else read that last quote to mean that for multiple years... Dish will be the only satellite provider? Did Larry Scott totally sell out to the highest bidder between Dish and Directv?

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 07:32 AM

It seem that Directv should have no trouble matching Dish one National channel plus a few part-time.

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 07:35 AM

A couple of phrases in the Pac-12 announcement are noteworthy. Apparently the Pac-12 sweetened the deal for Dish by granting some exclusive rights.

and....


Does anyone else read that last quote to mean that for multiple years... Dish will be the only satellite provider? Did Larry Scott totally sell out to the highest bidder between Dish and Directv?


Thanks for that info!

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 07:44 AM

Awesome awesome news.

Hey, we won! I'm the original thread starter. Do I get some sort of fruit basket?

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 07:53 AM

Awesome awesome news.

Hey, we won! I'm the original thread starter. Do I get some sort of fruit basket?


no fruit.... just get to hang out with us nuts here...

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 07:56 AM

A couple of phrases in the Pac-12 announcement are noteworthy. Apparently the Pac-12 sweetened the deal for Dish by granting some exclusive rights.

and....


Does anyone else read that last quote to mean that for multiple years... Dish will be the only satellite provider? Did Larry Scott totally sell out to the highest bidder between Dish and Directv?


I read this to be a multi-year agreement if Multichannel's news reporting is correct.

I also read this now means that Dish is now the exclusive satellite sponsor of the Pac 12. I don't read it that the content cannot be shown elsewhere. But I do think it's not what Directv wants its customers to see - advertising for Dish and their lower rates all over Directv should they come to a deal.

http://www.multichan...tion_Lineup.php

"Dish's multiyear agreement will place the Pac-12 Networks on the distributor's America's Top 120+ and packages above that level of service for customers within the conference's six-state footprint"

"The new agreement also provides Dish with exclusive category sponsorship for Pac-12 athletic programs. The sponsorship includes stadium signage and logo rights with each of the member schools, a roster that includes No. 2 USC and crosstown rival UCLA."

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 07:56 AM

With about 30+ sports channels now, did we really need another 12? Just like drugs... Some cannot get enough.


Dish has way more than 30 sports channels if you count the part-time feeds...

But they didn't just add 12 more channels.

For the moment it looks like they really only added 1 new channel... and the 2 overflow feeds are going to use existing part-time channel blocks...

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 07:57 AM

I still hate exclusive deals even if my provider has the channels. Me I am hoping the Iphone app gets launched soon cause my laptop has to stream with the sucky Adobe flash video. I wanna stream thru my Apple HDMI av adapter in 720p.

Launching the channel only in SD as well? That's terrible! WTF--ing F?

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 08:07 AM

I'm sitting here watching BTN and hear there is an announcement coming at 10 am CDT. Suppose Charlie closed the deal with PAC-12 and then used it as leverage with the BTN?

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 08:59 AM

Congrads to Dish subscribers. Now I am wanting to know is it exclusively the only provider you can get games on, as the press release stated it is the only satellite provider to have them, or is this just temporary as its the only provider so far to have them.

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 09:04 AM

Now just waiting to see what lights up, when, and when the EPG gets an update for the games!

413 lit at 8:11am ET ... the alt channels EPG is showing games (at 3pm ET and 10:30pm ET).



As far as the press release ... at 3am DISH was the only satellite carrier with a deal for Pac-12. The item in the press release noted as exclusive is the stadium advertising and other promotion of DISH by the member schools. I don't see it as precluding DirecTV from ever getting the channel(s) --- but viewers will be seeing DISH ads.

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 09:33 AM

413 lit at 8:11am ET ... the alt channels EPG is showing games (at 3pm ET and 10:30pm ET).


Those ALT channels (445 and 446) are showing "No Info" for me at 3pm... which is a change... but no game-specific info for me yet.

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 09:38 AM

Per Jon Wilner: The exclusiveity is for advertising and sponsorship only.

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 09:56 AM

Those ALT channels (445 and 446) are showing "No Info" for me at 3pm... which is a change... but no game-specific info for me yet.

Your EPG may be out of date - Check again after noon ET when the games are the "next" event on each channel.

At 3pm I see:
413 College Football - Souther Utah at California
445 (412-33) CFB: Scramento St vs Colorado
446 (412-34) CFB: Washington at Washington St (Programming subject to blackouts)


BTW: The Hopper channel numbering is annoying me. :(

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 10:02 AM

Yeah... it is way easier to find 445 and 446 than it would be to find 412-33 and -34 in a collapsed list...

I may have to reset my receiver anyway, I think all these uplinks are confusing it because it just became very sluggish... so maybe that will help the EPG update too.

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 12:08 PM

Per Jon Wilner: The exclusiveity is for advertising and sponsorship only.


Wilner is the same guy who weeks ago claimed the DirecTV deal was imminent. He also said those with Dish should "seek other options". And just two days ago said the possibility of Dish picking up the games for this weekend was "highly unllikely."

I don't know what kind of reporter he is for NorCal sports, but for the Network carriage deals, he has been completely useless.

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 01:38 PM

Good god can the main channel 413 look any worse? The alt channel games look fine. Main channel is washed out and blurry!!!

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 02:43 PM

I'm guessing that they didn't want to risk trying to uplink the HD channels on a weekend without testing them, as the alternate feed games seem to only be SD as well.

Fingers crossed that HD shows up next weekend.

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 10:15 PM

For SD it really does not look all that bad.
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