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DIRECTV First Look: C31-700 Home Media Center RVU Client


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#226 OFFLINE   veryoldschool

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 09:47 PM

The only thing I don't like about this or the H25 connected to HR34 is that when you pull up recordings it does not show how much space is used. Only on the main DVR does it show that. But the C31 looks pretty cool!

:confused: My C31 shows the free space of the HR34.
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Posted 03 September 2012 - 08:23 AM

Anyone know when the SD Dongle will be available for the C31? Thanks

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 09:16 AM

Anyone know when the SD Dongle will be available for the C31? Thanks


If by "SD Dongle" you're referring to the component/composite A/V adapter cable, its the same as used for the H25 receiver and is available now.

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 09:45 AM

If by "SD Dongle" you're referring to the component/composite A/V adapter cable, its the same as used for the H25 receiver and is available now.


The cable available for the H25 is component only. I need a similair cable but for composite.

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 10:10 AM

If by "SD Dongle" you're referring to the component/composite A/V adapter cable, its the same as used for the H25 receiver and is available now.


The cable available for the H25 is component only. I need a similair cable but for composite.

There is/will be a composite 10pin DIN, but I don't know the availability yet.
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Posted 03 September 2012 - 10:18 AM

There is/will be a composite 10pin DIN, but I don't know the availability yet.


I guess for now I could get a HDMI to Composite Video Converter at Monoprice

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 12:50 PM

IIRC I just used the HR24 dongle, but can't say if they are intended for use together. I got my composite video recorded but the connection did seen a but loose.

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 01:39 PM

I can only find dongle's for the HR25, can't find anything for the HR24

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 01:50 PM

IIRC I just used the HR24 dongle, but can't say if they are intended for use together. I got my composite video recorded but the connection did seen a but loose.


I can only find dongle's for the HR25, can't find anything for the HR24

"The dongle" that is out currently is for the H25 which is the only other box with the 10pin DIN.
I've used it for component with the C31.
As I've posted, there is a composite 10pin dongle that "will be" available at some point.
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Posted 03 September 2012 - 01:53 PM

Sorry, Swype autocorrect strikes again. I typed H25 dongle.

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 06:33 PM

There seems to be conflicting information about the 2 things most important to me

1) Being able to watch content located on other HR24s. My HR34 skips when recroding from any on demand channel (support says its firmware). So that's why we keep HR24s around.

2). Some sites say this is RF only, my intent was to use my slingbox pro for being on the road. But the slingbox is only IR. If this is true then I am still stuck with a HR24 for that.

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 07:25 PM

There seems to be conflicting information about the 2 things most important to me

1) Being able to watch content located on other HR24s. My HR34 skips when recroding from any on demand channel (support says its firmware). So that's why we keep HR24s around.

2). Some sites say this is RF only, my intent was to use my slingbox pro for being on the road. But the slingbox is only IR. If this is true then I am still stuck with a HR24 for that.

1) there are some questions about which software is on the HR2x, and whether it works with the 34 for MRV. My current versions DO work, so if it isn't for others, this will change with the next release.
I downloaded a couple of OnDemand and didn't have any playback problems.

2) The HR34 works in either IR or RF.
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Posted 03 September 2012 - 07:45 PM

It seems to be a great start, but the "future" needs to include an HMC with a heck of alot more tuners than 5 (IMO 8-10 at a minimum) otherwise it is far too limiting to be a total replacement for a setup like mine (which isn't that extravagent of a setup -- TVs in 3 bedrooms, the office and living room).


and hotels and bars will need a lot as well.

For a bar they may need 8-16+ tuners and hotels at least 1 per room or 1 per channel (likely to be 20-100+)
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Posted 03 September 2012 - 08:00 PM

Seems to me there is nothing wrong with "for a start." the HR34 is clearly the first in a whole new generation of hardware, and unlike the transition from HR10 to HR20 it's not a terribly bumpy changeover.

I expect that in the years to come we will see all sorts of uses for RVU, with plenty of permutations for every need.
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Posted 03 September 2012 - 08:28 PM

and hotels and bars will need a lot as well.

For a bar they may need 8-16+ tuners and hotels at least 1 per room or 1 per channel (likely to be 20-100+)


hotels or hospitals will most likely use the com1000
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Posted 03 September 2012 - 08:35 PM

Or the DIRECTV residential experience.
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 08:53 AM

Or the DIRECTV residential experience.


I don't think that will happen soon, but will be a very gradual transition over several years.

RVU gives you less functionality overall for the same amount of money as the current "SWM" setup. I'm not sure why most current subscribers would switch to it. I think that's why D* priced it so high -- they have limited inventory on the RVU hardware and plenty of old hardware still kicking around.

But I think D* will make the RVU setup the advertised free setup for new customers going forward. The hardware involved costs less for D*, which should save money and increase their profit. Since only new customers will generally demand an RVU setup, that will allow the gradual transition that D* wants.

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 09:04 AM

RVU gives you less functionality overall for the same amount of money as the current "SWM" setup.


Not sure about your same amount of money comment. Since we don't know the actual production cost difference between the HR24 and the HR34 DIRECTV might be saving money by going with the C31 vs HXX in the rest of the home. What we do know is that it doesn't save the customer any money based on current promo's and the RVU client monthly charge still being $6/month.

I'm not sure why most current subscribers would switch to it. I think that's why D* priced it so high -- they have limited inventory on the RVU hardware and plenty of old hardware still kicking around.

Based on how long I've been in the HR34 test group, and the manufacture date on the C31's I have IMHO they've had plenty of time to build up a hardware inventory. As to why would a current sub switch, the two reasons I'm moving that direction is the centralized recording management and less power draw. So far I've removed two HR24's from my setup and home and will probably do another one in the near future, using C31's in their place.

But I think D* will make the RVU setup the advertised free setup for new customers going forward. The hardware involved costs less for D*, which should save money and increase their profit. Since only new customers will generally demand an RVU setup, that will allow the gradual transition that D* wants.

That's how I see things going. Hopefully they'll be able to come up with a scalable HMC solution, either allow multiple HR34's or a new STB that has more tuners/storage then the HR34 for those larger installations.

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 12:36 PM

Any word yet on what markets have the C31 currently available, or when they will be available elsewhere? I'm specifically hoping for availability in the Davenport, IA-Rock Island, IL DMA.

Also any confirmation yet on pricing and if it is an owned or leased piece of equipment?
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 12:45 PM

I think it'll be an accessory like an AM21, about $50.
From my bill: Home Media Center Monthly for 1 Client 6.00
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 01:59 PM

Let me know if I missed something

Advantages the c31 has over the h25
- has full dvr function ( access to the to-do list, double play, trick play on live tv, etc)
- half the size of the h25 so easier to hide
- has built in rf antenna
- can watch am21 channels live from the hr34
- pull caller id from the hr34
- access to the vod library
- is half the price of the h25 ( based off the rumored 50$)
edit - doesnt take any more swm ports as it uses one of the hr34s tuners.


Advantages the h25 has over the c31
- has its own tuner
edit - can view and schedule recordings on any dvr on the mrv setup ( supposedly c31 can do this later on?)

Edited by viclovr, 04 September 2012 - 02:48 PM.

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 02:07 PM

You've got it right. Although, I have a feeling by the time the C31 is in general availability you'll be able to play recordings from any DVR.
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 02:20 PM

H25 can schedule recordings on other DVDs if you have more than one.
Not a big deal if you've got an HR34, but a difference.

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 03:44 PM

As to why would a current sub switch, the two reasons I'm moving that direction is the centralized recording management and less power draw.

It is interesting to note that one of the problems with the C30 was that they couldn't get it to pass Energy Star:

http://www.energysta...upplemental.pdf

[An interesting history lesson on DIRECTV's RVU plans if you're not concerned about power consumption.]

Remember that the C31 uses the same power adapter as the H25. I would imagine that a significant portion of the power consumed is in the DECA transceiver section.
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 04:05 PM

Would have been real slick if they could have gotten the C31 to run on less than 2.5W, so they could be powered off a TVs USB port (since most newer TVs have one). That would have meant no more power brick.
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