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DIRECTV First Look: C31-700 Home Media Center RVU Client


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#26 OFFLINE   cypherx

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 05:35 AM

Great first look guys!

I see it can get poster art, unlike a regular H2x since it is really using the HR34 to do all the heavy lifting.

Does this mean that you can also go through VOD channels and initiate downloads from a C31?

Sounds like you can go through the To Do list and History from a C31?

So what is "individual" between the C31's and HR34? The remote control setup and Favorites list?

This is really the way to go if you get FULL functionality in every room (access to the series manager, double play, VOD, etc).

Does the iPad app detect a C31 as a separate receiver for remote control?

Are each C31's able to be named ie) "Bedroom", "Office", "Kitchen", etc...

Any word on the pricing?

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#27 OFFLINE   smiddy

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 05:37 AM

Looks great, though I'm still wondering if its owned/leased.

I'm not certain. There is a Home Media Center charge of $6.00/month for each C31. I have three, so that is $18.00/month. I suspect that they are leased once they are ready to ship them, but perhaps not since I see them as being like an AM21x, or NOMAD. We should know in the coming days.
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 05:41 AM

I'm not certain. There is a Home Media Center charge of $6.00/month for each C31. I have three, so that is $18.00/month. I suspect that they are leased once they are ready to ship them, but perhaps not since I see them as being like an AM21x, or NOMAD. We should know in the coming days.


There's no access card slot right? I thought the monthly fee was to mirror programming on the access card. So if you could buy one outright and put it on your network, wouldn't it find your HR34 and you could pair it up without DirecTV's intervention?

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My DirecTV SD WISHLIST: MTV Hits, MTV Jams, Music Choice, Youtoo TV

 

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 05:48 AM

Great job

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 05:52 AM

Nice work on the First Look by the C31 team, as well as the supplemental additional FAQ.

Those little units are quite something.
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 05:56 AM

There's no access card slot right? I thought the monthly fee was to mirror programming on the access card. So if you could buy one outright and put it on your network, wouldn't it find your HR34 and you could pair it up without DirecTV's intervention?


There is no access card slot; the charge is based on how many active clients you can have simultaneously. For instance, if you are signed up for 2 RVU clients and try to turn on a 3rd on the same network, you'll see on an on-screen message that says something like "You are not authorized for this location. Please turn off {name of 1st location} or {name of 2nd location} and try again." Or words to that effect.

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 05:58 AM

A really cool feature is the ability to connect the C31 wirelessly via a WCCK.
Works great for those places where you don't have a cable drop.

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 06:12 AM

I'm not certain. There is a Home Media Center charge of $6.00/month for each C31. I have three, so that is $18.00/month. I suspect that they are leased once they are ready to ship them, but perhaps not since I see them as being like an AM21x, or NOMAD. We should know in the coming days.


So I'm guessing people who have lifetime DVR on their account (I have three HRxx in my house) moving to an HMC with RVU client set up would starting incurring an additional $18.00/month charge since these are not DVRs?

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 06:20 AM

I don't know what remote will come with it, at least for now assume it is the rc65.


Speaking of remotes, it can do an RF remote without any additional hardware, support is built in.

See post My Setup for configuration info.


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Posted 30 August 2012 - 06:21 AM

And if anyone is curious about supporting 3D TV's, yes it does work with 3D channels.

See post My Setup for configuration info.


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Posted 30 August 2012 - 06:22 AM

Currently I have an HR24, H24 and my H21(owned) is inactive (Home renovations).

I currently pay:
$8 - Advanced Receiver-DVR Monthly
$3 - Whole Home DVR Service Monthly
$6 - Additional TV

That's $17 for 2 rooms.

Are you saying if I got rid of everything I have right now and did an HR34 with 2 C31's, it would only be $1 more a month, but I get 3 rooms instead of 2?

If so, that's not a bad deal.

- > Link to my setup thread< -

My  DirecTV HD WISHLIST:  NickJR, Nicktoons, Revolt.TV, FXM, We, Oxygen, The Hub, Fuse, GSN, Sprout, GAC, Esquire, BBC World News, Sundance, Up, Music Choice Play HD, Al Jazeera America, Military Channel, NASA

My DirecTV SD WISHLIST: MTV Hits, MTV Jams, Music Choice, Youtoo TV

 

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 06:23 AM

And to answer a few other obvious questions people might have, without digging into Stuart's great document, it CAN do DoublePlay, but not PIP. It DOES support Pandora streaming (you have to activate through the Pandora website for each client) but not YouTube videos.

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 06:28 AM

As always, an excellent First Look. :)

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 06:46 AM

I'm not certain. There is a Home Media Center charge of $6.00/month for each C31. I have three, so that is $18.00/month. I suspect that they are leased once they are ready to ship them, but perhaps not since I see them as being like an AM21x, or NOMAD. We should know in the coming days.

Well, if they are owned (which would be great) or if they are only considered an accessory than DirecTV would lose a lot of 2 year commitments as people add rooms with new boxes months or years later. I can't imagine them giving up that cash cow. It would virtually eliminate individual "contracts" after the initial 2 years for new customers with HMC & only clients setups.

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 06:47 AM

Currently I have an HR24, H24 and my H21(owned) is inactive (Home renovations).

I currently pay:
$8 - Advanced Receiver-DVR Monthly
$3 - Whole Home DVR Service Monthly
$6 - Additional TV

That's $17 for 2 rooms.

Are you saying if I got rid of everything I have right now and did an HR34 with 2 C31's, it would only be $1 more a month, but I get 3 rooms instead of 2?

If so, that's not a bad deal.


Sorry but no from my understanding. The C31 carries the same $6/month charge as an additional receiver does, so it would be $12 for two additional rooms.

See post My Setup for configuration info.


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Posted 30 August 2012 - 06:49 AM

It DOES support Pandora streaming (you have to activate through the Pandora website for each client) but not YouTube videos.


Just to be honest Pandora is there on the extras menu but it's not ready for prime time yet, it currently plays only one song and then stops.

See post My Setup for configuration info.


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Posted 30 August 2012 - 06:57 AM

What does/will it cost for one??
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 07:02 AM

What does/will it cost for one??


I've seen a rumor of $50 but no official pricing that I know if yet.

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 07:05 AM

Just to be honest Pandora is there on the extras menu but it's not ready for prime time yet, it currently plays only one song and then stops.


How about VOD channels 1000+?

Can the iPad remote control or other ip remote control apps find C31's?

- > Link to my setup thread< -

My  DirecTV HD WISHLIST:  NickJR, Nicktoons, Revolt.TV, FXM, We, Oxygen, The Hub, Fuse, GSN, Sprout, GAC, Esquire, BBC World News, Sundance, Up, Music Choice Play HD, Al Jazeera America, Military Channel, NASA

My DirecTV SD WISHLIST: MTV Hits, MTV Jams, Music Choice, Youtoo TV

 

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HR24-200

 


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Posted 30 August 2012 - 07:10 AM

How about VOD channels 1000+?

Can the iPad remote control or other ip remote control apps find C31's?


Yes, the C31 can access all the DirecTV on Demand channels, just like any HRXX.

As for the iPad application it doesn't see any of my C31's, only the HRXX's.

See post My Setup for configuration info.


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Posted 30 August 2012 - 07:20 AM

Great first look guys!

I see it can get poster art, unlike a regular H2x since it is really using the HR34 to do all the heavy lifting.

Does this mean that you can also go through VOD channels and initiate downloads from a C31?


Yes

Sounds like you can go through the To Do list and History from a C31?


Yup!

So what is "individual" between the C31's and HR34? The remote control setup and Favorites list?


Yes, remote setup is unique and so are guide favorites. Other preferences like resolution settings, audio settings, parental controls, ect. are set individually on the C31.

This is really the way to go if you get FULL functionality in every room (access to the series manager, double play, VOD, etc).


Yeah, you get full DVR functionality in a tiny little box.

Does the iPad app detect a C31 as a separate receiver for remote control?


Not yet. I hope it's in the works but I don't know.

Are each C31's able to be named ie) "Bedroom", "Office", "Kitchen", etc...


Yes.

Any word on the pricing?


My guess is $49.95 :)

Oh, and great job on the First Look guys. Outstanding! :up:

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 07:46 AM

Great first look!

I guess pricing will be clearer over the next few days, but if all that you have is a HR34 and C31's will you no longer need the $3 per month Whole Home DVR service?

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 07:52 AM

I'm not sure of the answer to that. I think that it will probably be a month before we have public confirmation of pricing.
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 07:56 AM

A really cool feature is the ability to connect the C31 wirelessly via a WCCK.
Works great for those places where you don't have a cable drop.

Guess I could expand on this a little bit.
Normally the C31 is on the subnet that is set up on the cable through the SWM, and the C31 provides the HR34 a display interface using the RVU protocol.
The WCCK can instead provide a wireless ethernet link for the C31 to the HR34 through your wireless router and home network, and the direct connection between the C31 and WCCK is a short section of RG6.
Simply set up the WCCK as one normally would (been so long I forget how, but must not have been too hard) and connect the cable between the WCCK and C31 and that's it other than the C31 setup itself (setup procedure is in the First Look).

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 08:00 AM

Is there any noticable difference in the speed of changing channels as compared to a H24/25 or HR? (faster or slower since there is no local tuner?)

How quick is the trick play and accessing recordings from the HR34? Is is comparable to the current speeds of whole home DVR?

Thanks.




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