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#1 OFFLINE   JACKIEGAGA

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 01:44 PM

Are you ready for football? Kick off in about 5 hours. Go Giants!


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Posted 05 September 2012 - 02:08 PM

I can't wait. Things I'm looking forward to...

Luck & RGIII leading their new teams as rookies.
The Cowboys continuing to choke.
Seeing if Chicago or Detroit can dethrone the Packers in the North.
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 02:15 PM

Beginning of the season prediction:

Packers win the Superbowl!!!

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 02:51 PM

I hope the replacement Refs do a good job. They killed the momentum of the games in pre-season.

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 04:49 PM

I feel sorry for the replacement refs.

They aren't even the top college refs... they are lower division or in some cases high school refs... with not a lot of experience, and zero NFL experience.

The experienced NFL refs have a tough time in some games and with some rules... these replacements don't really have a fair chance.

They would probably have needed a year just to study and get familiar with all the NFL rules... then maybe the pre-season tuneup would have prepared them for the speed of the game.

I don't know who is being most unfair (NFL refs union OR NFL itself) but this strike needs to get settled for the good of the NFL soon... someone is going to get screwed over by a ref call moreso than usual and it will become a big deal now that the games count!

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 10:40 PM

Spoilered for those who haven't yet watched the game tonight:

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 11:38 PM

Beginning of the season prediction:

Packers win the Superbowl!!!


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How 'bout this weekend!? They have a real team to play for their opener....:jumpingja
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Posted 06 September 2012 - 04:12 AM

I thought the refs did a pretty decent job

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Posted 06 September 2012 - 05:21 AM

I thought the refs did a pretty decent job


I thought the same thing... They may not have called a perfect game, but I don't remember seeing anything that I thought "hey, that was a bad/missed call"... so kudos to them under the spotlight and pressure.

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Posted 06 September 2012 - 09:29 AM

I thought the same thing... They may not have called a perfect game, but I don't remember seeing anything that I thought "hey, that was a bad/missed call"... so kudos to them under the spotlight and pressure.


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And I've never seen a game that was perfectly reffed.....
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Posted 07 September 2012 - 08:47 AM

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 09:53 AM

Hah! Love it.

Sigma is to Cowboys as Jay Leno is to NBC??

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 09:11 AM

I thought the same thing... They may not have called a perfect game, but I don't remember seeing anything that I thought "hey, that was a bad/missed call"... so kudos to them under the spotlight and pressure.



I heard on a sports talk show today that was the best reffing crew and they will be doing the Sunday Night Game. I wonder how the rest of the games will go today?

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 09:29 AM

I thought the same thing... They may not have called a perfect game, but I don't remember seeing anything that I thought "hey, that was a bad/missed call"... so kudos to them under the spotlight and pressure.


Not even the blatant holding by the defensive back on the goal line resulting in a FG?

They did good, but that was obvious.
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Posted 09 September 2012 - 09:41 AM

Not even the blatant holding by the defensive back on the goal line resulting in a FG?

They did good, but that was obvious.


Yes it was a miss call but over all they did a decent job. My concern is in the pre seasons games it seemed liked the refs killed the pace of the game. Just by when there was a simply penalty it took them to long to spot the ball or they got the spot wrong and they had to discuss it and re spot it.

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 11:00 AM

Not even the blatant holding by the defensive back on the goal line resulting in a FG?

They did good, but that was obvious.


The thing about that call... it was a call that was obvious from the camera angle available at home on replay... but for the officials on the field who have different responsibilities and angles... the announcers readily said when that happened that while it was an obvious hold, it was less obvious in the field of play when it happened and is the kind of holding call that officials easily miss.

The point being... I have been watching football for the better part of 25 years now... and if that was the only call they missed, that was a spectacular job... we usually have far more than that to complain about with the regular officials.

Now... the fair point is that was their A-crew of replacement refs... so today might unveil more problems. It should be interesting. By the end of this weekend we will either have proof positive that the "real" refs need to be back ASAP... OR the NFL will have proven they can pick up anyone off the street and dress them to call a game.

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 07:21 AM

I thought the replacement refs did a pretty good job...it's not like the regular refs get everything right either!

Some confusion at the end of the Seahawks-Cardinals gave Seattle an extra timeout, but it wound up having no effect. Also, the Packers had about six 'blocks in the back' on Cobb's punt return TD, but as I said, the regular refs missed calls too.

All in all, it wasn't bad and hopefully will get better!


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Posted 10 September 2012 - 07:24 AM

Hmm. I might have to rethink my season prediction, but I'm gonna give it one more game. ;)

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 08:45 AM

Hmm. I might have to rethink my season prediction, but I'm gonna give it one more game. ;)


They'll do fine. Rogers is a fantastic QB, AND a class act.

What I disliked most in that game was a spearing by Williams on Gore in the end zone. Next was the overcalled block in the back on the 70 yd TD play.

The Bears game, Thursday, should be a great one.

We play Detroit next weekend.
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Posted 10 September 2012 - 08:51 AM

Hmm. I might have to rethink my season prediction, but I'm gonna give it one more game. ;)


I heard a statistic today 7 out 10 teams who win in week one make the playoffs.

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 09:00 AM

I thought the replacement refs did a pretty good job...it's not like the regular refs get everything right either!

Some confusion at the end of the Seahawks-Cardinals gave Seattle an extra timeout, but it wound up having no effect. Also, the Packers had about six 'blocks in the back' on Cobb's punt return TD, but as I said, the regular refs missed calls too.

All in all, it wasn't bad and hopefully will get better!


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Agreed overall the Refs did a good job.

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 09:07 AM

I heard a statistic today 7 out 10 teams who win in week one make the playoffs.


Cool! So, that must mean the Niners are one of the seven, and the Pack is one of the three! ::eek2::lol:

Now, how about the Giants and Jets, too!
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Posted 10 September 2012 - 09:15 AM

Cool! So, that must mean the Niners are one of the seven, and the Pack is one of the three! ::eek2::lol:

Now, how about the Giants and Jets, too!


49ers Vs Packers was the best of the three games I watched. I had no doubt what the outcome would be. Unless they are plagued with injuries SF will go the distance and into the playoffs. Then again my favorite team (NY Giants) are noted for slow starts and wining finishes.

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 12:21 PM

Refs only really blew 2 calls in the Patriots/Titans game. One was a pretty blatant pass interference non-call in the end zone that turned what should have been a 1st & 10 on the 2 into what ended up as a field goal. Now, maybe it was because the receiver was cutting back - McCourty pretty much ran into him without looking at/for the ball - but that's still interference according to the rulebook (And I'm a Patriots fan saying this).

There was another less-obvious interference non-call later in the game but that didn't matter much. The Patriots mostly had their way after the first 5 minutes of the game.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 01:06 AM

As far as I can tell... the only call blown that you could say is one the regular officials wouldn't have blown... was probably that "bonus" time-out that Seattle got vs Arizona.

What's funny... everyone is talking about granting that timeout... but really, the error that happened was on an earlier play... the one where they should have lost a timeout to an injury but didn't... so *that* is actually where the mistake happened.

At the point of calling the "last" timeout, Seattle had already been told they still had one remaining... so everything from that point was ok... the problem occurred much earlier when they weren't charged for one like they were supposed to.

Now... Coach Carroll could have been doing some gamesmanship on TV... but if we are going to blame the refs, we have to blame him and his staff too... because they aren't new to the NFL like the refs this year... so ZERO excuse for Carroll not knowing the rules and knowing he was really out of timeouts.

Carroll's comments made it seem like he thought he should have had one... so he was just as wrong and made the same mistake as the refs did.

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