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#51 OFFLINE   Stewart Vernon

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 05:15 PM

These Thursday Night games are tough on us east coasters especially when there is work tomorrow.


I'm torn... as a fan, I like having another night of NFL football and a timeslot wherein I don't have to pick which game to miss (like on Sunday when I have to switch back and forth to see parts of simultaneous games).

But it also plays havoc with my other TV viewing, all the stuff I have to DVR to watch on Friday before being backlogged again over the weekend!

And yeah, if I had to get up early on a Friday... that would be tough to do when you already don't want to go in on Friday anyway.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 10:10 PM

I agree completely.

The NFL could curb some of this by sending 'warning' letters to offending coaches. Then hand out fines if the behavior continues. Wouldn't be the first time someone was fined after the fact.

I wonder if the players 'code of conduct' could fall under this as well.


Just saw a scroll on the bottom of the screen on ESPN that said the league has sent word to all of the coaches directing them to improve their behavior towards the replacement refs.

I can't excuse the mistakes... but you have to think the players take cues from seeing their head coach dismiss the replacement refs... so maybe IF the coaches start offering a little more respect the players will follow suit.

I saw a couple of instances in tonight's game of players fighting with opposing players and in the past I have to think regular refs would have had the courage to throw more flags and even eject some players.

I was saying to myself this weekend with some of the behavior, that I don't think it is going to stop until some players start getting ejected from games for fighting.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 10:20 PM

Having Saints players/coaches yelling "kill the head" and making it rain from the sidelines probably doesn't help! :)
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Posted 23 September 2012 - 03:03 PM

The replacement refs have got to go. Non calls and blows calls are getting rediculous. Blatantly obvious calls at that.

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 05:15 AM

I've almost never complained about referees - but last night? Oh man.

No flags for the first 10 minutes regardless of the fact that PUNCHES were being thrown in the Patriots/Ravens game.

Then a non-call when a lineman landed on top of a sliding Brady. Ok, maybe that was a bit questionable to call or not call but to have an offensive pass interference call when there were clearly legs being tangled - and the receiver was the one going to the ground? I mean both players were going for the ball and the refs robbed a damn good reception!

Then calling a measurement on 4th down when the ball was over a yard short - THEN a challenge flag on the spotting of the ball???? What is this - PeeWee level?

I couldn't stay awake beyond that point as I have to get up early in the morning. But then I hear that the winning field goal may have actually been wide?

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 05:19 AM

I've almost never complained about referees - but last night? Oh man.

No flags for the first 10 minutes regardless of the fact that PUNCHES were being thrown in the Patriots/Ravens game.

Then a non-call when a lineman landed on top of a sliding Brady. Ok, maybe that was a bit questionable to call or not call but to have an offensive pass interference call when there were clearly legs being tangled - and the receiver was the one going to the ground? I mean both players were going for the ball and the refs robbed a damn good reception!

Then calling a measurement on 4th down when the ball was over a yard short - THEN a challenge flag on the spotting of the ball???? What is this - PeeWee level?

I couldn't stay awake beyond that point as I have to get up early in the morning. But then I hear that the winning field goal may have actually been wide?


I also heard I think it was 49ers got an extra challange

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 05:33 AM

I've almost never complained about referees - but last night? Oh man.

No flags for the first 10 minutes regardless of the fact that PUNCHES were being thrown in the Patriots/Ravens game.

Then a non-call when a lineman landed on top of a sliding Brady. Ok, maybe that was a bit questionable to call or not call but to have an offensive pass interference call when there were clearly legs being tangled - and the receiver was the one going to the ground? I mean both players were going for the ball and the refs robbed a damn good reception!

Then calling a measurement on 4th down when the ball was over a yard short - THEN a challenge flag on the spotting of the ball???? What is this - PeeWee level?

I couldn't stay awake beyond that point as I have to get up early in the morning. But then I hear that the winning field goal may have actually been wide?


The replacement refs are horrible. A virgin has more knowledge and experience with sex than they have with football. The coaches know this and are taking advantage of it. It's been a ugly season and will continue to get worse.

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 09:33 PM

I'm glad I didnt pay big bucks to watch the NFL this year...Those refs totally suck. The game isnt even fun to watch anymore.

After the ridiculous ending of the Green Bay game, I totally refuse to watch another NFL game. They are totally and absolutely the worst group of officials and replay people I have ever seen in my life. They decide who wins and who loses. Doesnt matter how the game is played. Screw the NFL.

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 09:54 PM

On one hand, it was an exciting game to watch.

On the other hand, the refs blew so many calls, including the final touchdown which was clearly an interception.

How could that ref signal touchdown when he was looking straight down at the GB player with the ball??

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 09:54 PM

Wow, just wow. :nono2:

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 10:08 PM

The NFL should fire all the regular refs and keep the replacement. They could turn it into WWE NFL.:)

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 10:13 PM

As a Packer fan, I just want to hit a zebra.

Or Roger Goodell. Right now, for keeping this lockout going, he looks like a jackass.

They're all horse's asses in my book.
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 10:16 PM

The NFL owes everyone refunds for deliberately putting an inferior product on the field. The integrity of their product is shot and it is a conscious decision.
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 10:21 PM

I just cancelled Sunday Ticket. This replacement referee thing has totally ruined the NFL. The only way to voice my frustration is to let Direct and hopefully the NFL know that they will no longer get my money. I hope more people would follow suit. Everyone that paid for professional football on ST should be outraged, because whatever is being broadcast on Sunday isn't professional football.

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 10:24 PM

For the blind NFL officials out there:

From NFL's facebook page:

BREAKING: Seahawks QB Russell Wilson becomes first NFL QB to throw game winning interception. #MNF

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 10:29 PM

As a Packer fan, I just want to hit a zebra.

Or Roger Goodell. Right now, for keeping this lockout going, he looks like a jackass.

They're all horse's asses in my book.


As a Niner fan, I am right with you as that being the worst call ever. And why wasn't it overturned on the review?

And does the clear push in the back (P.I.) really get relegated to "not reviewable" even though it was part of a scoring (NOT scoring) play???
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 10:43 PM

For the blind NFL officials out there:

From NFL's facebook page:


After THOUSANDS of highly critical comments, they took the game winning story down.
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Posted 25 September 2012 - 01:23 AM

As a Niner fan, I am right with you as that being the worst call ever. And why wasn't it overturned on the review?

And does the clear push in the back (P.I.) really get relegated to "not reviewable" even though it was part of a scoring (NOT scoring) play???


It wasn't overturned on review because possession calls are not reviewable via replay. That was another mistake on top of the original call, which should have been ruled an interception and touchback (end of game). It was not a simultaneous reception.

The NFL is a billion dollar industry with hundred dollar officials. For Pete's sake, they're not even using D1 officials. I personally know one of the replacement officials, a side judge from NW Indiana who also works NCAA Baseball games and who assigns the Midwest Collegiate League's umpires. The replacement officials are pulled from D2, D3, Junior College, and Arena Football League.

Pathetic, simply pathetic. For the love of the game, BRING BACK THE REGULAR OFFICIALS!

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Posted 25 September 2012 - 03:52 AM

Yesterday morning I posted it's been a ugly season that will continue to get worse. Last night's game proved my point. If I were in attendence I would have asked for my money back. Our beloved games are housed in billion dollar stadiums, played by multimillion dollar coaches and players with the outcome being determined by five cent referees. Roger Goodell neads to get his head out of his ass!

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Posted 25 September 2012 - 06:12 AM

Thank you, Roger Goodell, for getting me psyched for the baseball playoffs.

I'll watch the Packers-Saints game this Sunday. I'm a fan. But otherwise, I'm done with the NFL until they get the refs back.

I've only got so much time for sports on television and the best part of the baseball season is coming up.
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Posted 25 September 2012 - 06:13 AM

Last night featured 3 totally blown calls that most high school refs would have called correctly.

1) First there was the interception that was called back for "roughing the passer" on a routine mid-body light tackle of Russell Wilson.

2) Second was the interference call that every announcer agreed was offensive interference.

3) We all know about the final call that was plain insane - especially after the refs claimed to have reviewed it on instant replay (in record time by the way).

If any one of those calls goes the other way, the outcome changes - not just this one call.

These were not close calls -they were no brainers. The 27-year NFL ref in the MNF booth even indicated the replay showed it was an interception at the end, and also questioned the pass interference call earlier.

If Roger Goodell doesn't over-rule the final play and change the score....the NFL will forever be tainted by this game. The season was already a joke so far...now its a disgrace. It will take years to mend the trust by players and fans over what happened last night.

For a Commissioner who is obsessed with "bounty-gate" to maintain the integrity of pro foootball...he better step in now and right this travesty wrong...otherwise impeach the guy.
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Posted 25 September 2012 - 06:18 AM

No bigger Giants fan than me, but my heart goes out to Packer fans today. That's right up there with the worst sports calls I've ever seen.
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Posted 25 September 2012 - 06:46 AM

No bigger Giants fan than me, but my heart goes out to Packer fans today. That's right up there with the worst sports calls I've ever seen.

Certainly a nice sentiment.

There already have been over 350 player tweets about the multiple bad calls in that game last night that literally changed the outcome of the game - players from other teams.

This transcends a specific team. It's about having any integrity left in a sport. Right now, it's known as the National Farce League.
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Posted 25 September 2012 - 06:58 AM

If Roger Goodell doesn't over-rule the final play and change the score....the NFL will forever be tainted by this game.

I'll bet you a steak dinner that today the NFL will agree the call was blown but the outcome of the game stands. I'm trying to think of a single instance in the NFL that a blow officiating call, or multiple calls as your post points out, has caused the outcome of a game to be reversed retroactively.

You can add a bottle of good French wine to that dinner if Goodell doesn't issue significant fines against Packers players who made inflammatory Tweets last night after the game.

I can't wait to see the ratings for this Sunday's games. I'm looking for someone who will buy me a steak dinner if they aren't down at least 10% from last year. Right now, the NFL is playing joke football.
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Posted 25 September 2012 - 07:30 AM

As a HUGE Seahawks fan here, I must say I'm sorry to all Packer Fans.. That game was ridiculous. That should have been an interception, plain and simple. What blows my mind is how great the Defense was on both sides and that will always be overshadowed from the controversy. Seahawks had "8" sacks on QB in just the 1st half, but of course no one will remember that.. SAD, just real sad!




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