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#121 OFFLINE   Carl Spock

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 11:03 AM

Shouldn't that be "without principles"? I bet we'll find the NFL caved to get these guys back on the field. The lockout had become an embarassment for the league.

In any case, I'm glad it's over.

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#122 OFFLINE   Lord Vader

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 11:22 AM

Indeed.

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#123 OFFLINE   Stewart Vernon

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 12:55 PM

Just to bottom line my earlier point...

Anything you think Goodell is doing on his own (Bounty thing, refs, issuing fines, etc.) you can be assured he is NOT acting on his own.

The owners hired him to do a job... they gave him some leeway in that job probably... but he also knows IF he does something that most of the owners do not like, it will be his head on the platter.

So... any time you see Goodell "acting alone" and being "judge, jury, etc." you should know that he isn't acting alone... and that the majority of the owners back the decision... or he wouldn't be taking those actions.

So, yes... he could step out and say "this isn't good for the game" and it wouldn't make a difference, because he would be fired on the spot for insubordination and replaced and the league would keep doing what it is doing.

I'm not saying he is a great and wonderful and principled man... I'm just saying he isn't alone in a vacuum. Ever word he utters has the backing of most of the owners. If he didn't, you would know it.

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#124 OFFLINE   Carl Spock

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 01:18 PM

I don't know if Goodell be fired on the spot. That's a bit dramatic. But leadership in that office on a controversial issue.

Pete Rozelle is one model. He pushed the owners to accept revenue sharing and merger of the AFL and NFL into one league. He wasn't anybody's lap dog. Under his leadership, the NFL even sued one of the owners, Al Davis, to keep his team from moving from Oakland to Los Angeles. Rozelle made the NFL into the juggernaut it is today. When he took over the job as commissioner, the NFL was a third class league, behind both baseball and the NBA. Under his leadership, it became the most popular sport in America.

The one thing Rozelle was always conscious of was making sure the owners made money. He made them a ton of money and got their support because of that.

The other extreme is Fay Vincent. As baseball commissioner, he rubbed the owners the wrong way, so much that he was fired after three years. The owners then hired one of their own, Bud Selig, to take his job. Selig has served the owner's interests for two decades now.

Fay Vincent's biggest failure was money. Although he was personally popular with the fans, Vincent screwed up the television contract. He cost the owners money and lost his job.

See a trend here?

Edited by Carl Spock, 26 September 2012 - 01:38 PM.

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 05:48 PM

I went to read a story on ESPN.COM about the negotiations, and got this:

The following content is exclusive to ESPN Insiders


Not enough that I already pay two providers for their content, but now they want me to pay $3.33 per month to read their website? ESPN...you can KMA just like the NFL. Greed is going to be the downfall of this country.

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 06:11 PM

Indeed. It's one of the 7 Deadly Sins, is it not? ;)

FAITH: I find the lack of it disturbing.

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 06:12 PM

It would have to be better getting the regular refs back, so let's hope that occurs.

However, the NFL's severly damaged reputation and direct impact to this year's outcome are forever tainted regardless.
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#128 OFFLINE   Lord Vader

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 06:15 PM

According to an ESPN report I saw earlier today, the NFL's ratings are up this year. So much for fans being so pissed that they're avoiding the game. :rolleyes:

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 06:18 PM

According to an ESPN report I saw earlier today, the NFL's ratings are up this year. So much for fans being so pissed that they're avoiding the game. :rolleyes:

So is Pro Wrestling...and that's pretty much equally "real". :D
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Posted 26 September 2012 - 06:21 PM

However, the NFL's severly damaged reputation and direct impact to this year's outcome are forever tainted regardless.


forever tainted? If the regular refs do come back this weekend, most football fans will forget all about the replacement refs in about 3 weeks.

I'm sure Directv can't wait to get their hands on your unit.

 
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Posted 26 September 2012 - 08:48 PM

forever tainted? If the regular refs do come back this weekend, most football fans will forget all about the replacement refs in about 3 weeks.


Even if they don't, I suspect that fans whose teams didn't make it to the playoffs and were legit pre-season likelies will be sure that it was because of the reffing. Those whose teams do well will forget all about it.

I am sick for the Packers, players and fans. What a ____ job.
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Posted 26 September 2012 - 10:49 PM

http://sportsillustr...com/?xid=cnnnav

The lockout is OVER. The Union refs and NFL agreed on contract and will return to the field.

Whew.

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 10:53 PM

It was funny that Mort was saying a deal was near on ESPN hours ago and Peter King with SI was pushing back saying a deal was not imminent at the same time. Then ESPN had word that a deal was done long before SI would say the same.
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#134 OFFLINE   Carl Spock

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 04:42 AM

Boy, the referees sure won on this deal. But then, for it to come together this quickly, the owners had to cave.

I heard this morning on that the settlement cost each owner about $100,000 a year. I bet that's Jerry Jones' electric bill for his scoreboard alone. When you have billion dollar franchises, you wonder what they were fighting about in the first place?

This is why I blame Roger Goodell. Pete Rozelle would never have let a situation this solvable get so out of hand.
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 03:09 PM

We have a lot of Packers fans on our great site .... Are you gentlemen ok?
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 03:10 PM

We have a lot of Packers fans on our great site .... Are you gentlemen ok?


The Colts were playing for their coach they deserved to win

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#137 OFFLINE   Lord Vader

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 03:12 PM

We have a lot of Packers fans on our great site .... Are you gentlemen ok?



I'm mobile today and not watching. What's going on with the Packers?

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 03:12 PM

They were playing for their coach


Yeah that was truly an inspirational victory.
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#139 OFFLINE   hdtvfan0001

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 03:20 PM

We have a lot of Packers fans on our great site .... Are you gentlemen ok?

Sure...no problem.

We're getting used to officials missing calls to decide games this season.
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#140 OFFLINE   Lord Vader

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 03:22 PM

What happened, gentlemen?

FAITH: I find the lack of it disturbing.

Opinions are my own but should be those of all Americans, who would be much better off intellectually, psychologically, and emotionally if that were the case.





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