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NHL Center Ice 2012-2013 Pricing


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#301 OFFLINE   BuffaloDenny

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 10:09 PM

So has anyone tried to speak to a retention CSR to see what kind of deal they can get? If it's $60 for the year for NHL CI on DirecTV, one would think given the past history of CSR roulette with sports packages that getting a $20 Gen Retention Credit should be easy, if not $30. I would think that for some customers they might just comp it with a $60 credit. Last two seasons I got NHL CI for $50 off the price. I know it's a different situation, but it's still retention CSRs with credits to hand out, right?


I cancelled and am confident of getting a retention deal. I'll use the 2 week free view period to play roulette. Either way, this gives me the flexibility I was looking for without losing anything.

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#302 OFFLINE   RACJ2

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 10:27 PM

Although I was able to get NHLCI for less then $50 for the full season last year. I think I'll save my bargaining power for something else. The current offer is giving us 58% of the seasons games, for 35% of what a full season cost last year.
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#303 OFFLINE   BuffaloDenny

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 10:44 PM

Although I was able to get NHLCI for less then $50 for the full season last year. I think I'll save my bargaining power for something else. The current offer is giving us 58% of the seasons games, for 35% of what a full season cost last year.


I hear ya, but I only play twice a year - for this and the Ticket. Before I got the HR34 I had the same original DVR they initially rolled out after Tivo, so I don't need or ask for equipment deals.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 11:35 PM

There are many issues with NHL Center Ice that could use improving, some of which has to do with NHL Network.

(1) NBC games that aren't available on CI -- when they make you go to NBCsports.com to watch out-of-market games during regional coverage. This is something the NHL should put a stop to a la MLB EI starting next year with Fox Saturdays.

(2) Lack of HD on many Canadian telecasts.

(3) Lack of Canadian team feeds if game is available on American team feed.

(4) HNIC coverage is spotty. Should have one HNIC channel in HD every Saturday night from 6:30 through After Hours plus CBC feeds for other games as necessary. (NHL Network sometimes screws this all up.)

(5) NHL Network games are not televised on CI. This means no choice of dual feeds, NHL Network studio instead of home team studios, etc. What's even worse though sometimes is when NHL Network tries to televise a JIP game. Sometimes that game isn't on CI.

#305 OFFLINE   bosco10021

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 01:00 AM

Has Center Ice showed up in anyone's Directv account yet as renewed?

Also does anyone know what channel would you tune to to see the "you are subscribed" message?

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 01:30 AM

Has Center Ice showed up in anyone's Directv account yet as renewed?

Also does anyone know what channel would you tune to to see the "you are subscribed" message?


It hasn't happened yet and the CI channels don't exist yet
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#307 OFFLINE   TANK

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 07:41 AM

I cancelled and am confident of getting a retention deal. I'll use the 2 week free view period to play roulette. Either way, this gives me the flexibility I was looking for without losing anything.


Since there is no early bird discount for NHCI. Anyone can wait ( play csr roulette ) and still only pay the maxiumn of $59.96 if they can't get any discounts from the CSR's.

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 08:32 AM

There are many issues with NHL Center Ice that could use improving, some of which has to do with NHL Network.

(1) NBC games that aren't available on CI -- when they make you go to NBCsports.com to watch out-of-market games during regional coverage. This is something the NHL should put a stop to a la MLB EI starting next year with Fox Saturdays.

(2) Lack of HD on many Canadian telecasts.

(3) Lack of Canadian team feeds if game is available on American team feed.

(4) HNIC coverage is spotty. Should have one HNIC channel in HD every Saturday night from 6:30 through After Hours plus CBC feeds for other games as necessary. (NHL Network sometimes screws this all up.)

(5) NHL Network games are not televised on CI. This means no choice of dual feeds, NHL Network studio instead of home team studios, etc. What's even worse though sometimes is when NHL Network tries to televise a JIP game. Sometimes that game isn't on CI.


(6) When the Flyers are on NHL Network we are blacked out of the game here in the Jersey Shore area, because we are somehow within radius of Philly for NHL Network blackouts. We cannot receive the game any other way, because we are not in the Philly DMA and do not receive Philly channels....moot point anyway, since DirecTV does not carry CSN Philly.

For NHLCI we are considered out of market, and receive all Flyer games.

Why NHL Network and NHLCI does not use the same blackout areas makes no sense whatsoever.


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Posted 15 January 2013 - 08:44 AM

Has Center Ice showed up in anyone's Directv account yet as renewed?

Also does anyone know what channel would you tune to to see the "you are subscribed" message?

Not yet here. It still shows up under my sports channels, but shows $0.00.

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 08:53 AM

There are many issues with NHL Center Ice that could use improving, some of which has to do with NHL Network.

(1) NBC games that aren't available on CI -- when they make you go to NBCsports.com to watch out-of-market games during regional coverage. This is something the NHL should put a stop to a la MLB EI starting next year with Fox Saturdays.

(2) Lack of HD on many Canadian telecasts.

(3) Lack of Canadian team feeds if game is available on American team feed.

(4) HNIC coverage is spotty. Should have one HNIC channel in HD every Saturday night from 6:30 through After Hours plus CBC feeds for other games as necessary. (NHL Network sometimes screws this all up.)

(5) NHL Network games are not televised on CI. This means no choice of dual feeds, NHL Network studio instead of home team studios, etc. What's even worse though sometimes is when NHL Network tries to televise a JIP game. Sometimes that game isn't on CI.


The one improvement last year was that we got HNIC in HD most weeks on a dedicated channel. But because the NHL Network takes the Hockey Tonight show at 6:30 eastern every Saturday you won't see it on the HNIC channels in NHLCI.

As for more Canadian HD or even SD on some nights I agree that would be nice but I wouldn't be holding my breath for these improvements.

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 10:17 AM

Any clarification yet whether or not Gamecenter Live is included as part of the CI package like some have speculated?

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 10:40 AM

There are many issues with NHL Center Ice that could use improving, some of which has to do with NHL Network.

(1) NBC games that aren't available on CI -- when they make you go to NBCsports.com to watch out-of-market games during regional coverage. This is something the NHL should put a stop to a la MLB EI starting next year with Fox Saturdays.

(2) Lack of HD on many Canadian telecasts.

(3) Lack of Canadian team feeds if game is available on American team feed.

(4) HNIC coverage is spotty. Should have one HNIC channel in HD every Saturday night from 6:30 through After Hours plus CBC feeds for other games as necessary. (NHL Network sometimes screws this all up.)

(5) NHL Network games are not televised on CI. This means no choice of dual feeds, NHL Network studio instead of home team studios, etc. What's even worse though sometimes is when NHL Network tries to televise a JIP game. Sometimes that game isn't on CI.


excellent points - couldn't agree more, especially with #4 and 5!

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 10:41 AM

Has Center Ice showed up in anyone's Directv account yet as renewed?

Also does anyone know what channel would you tune to to see the "you are subscribed" message?


That channel is usually in the low 100's....try 111-119 maybe?
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Posted 15 January 2013 - 10:47 AM

Any clarification yet whether or not Gamecenter Live is included as part of the CI package like some have speculated?


No, still a separate service. Sad but true.

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 11:19 AM

There are many issues with NHL Center Ice that could use improving, some of which has to do with NHL Network.

(1) NBC games that aren't available on CI -- when they make you go to NBCsports.com to watch out-of-market games during regional coverage. This is something the NHL should put a stop to a la MLB EI starting next year with Fox Saturdays.

(2) Lack of HD on many Canadian telecasts.

(3) Lack of Canadian team feeds if game is available on American team feed.

(4) HNIC coverage is spotty. Should have one HNIC channel in HD every Saturday night from 6:30 through After Hours plus CBC feeds for other games as necessary. (NHL Network sometimes screws this all up.)

(5) NHL Network games are not televised on CI. This means no choice of dual feeds, NHL Network studio instead of home team studios, etc. What's even worse though sometimes is when NHL Network tries to televise a JIP game. Sometimes that game isn't on CI.


Agreed - very good points. Last season I went on a "mission" to try and figure out the reason for #2 and #3. After a lot of CSR's transferring me to a lot of people, I managed to get ahold of someone in the DirecTV sports department to ask about 2 and 3. He spoke to his rep at the NHL who confirmed that the league does not guarantee to provide dual feeds, and generally will not provide the Canadian HD feed to providers due to the fact that the Canadian TV stations charge a higher fee for distributing.

Also, he noted one exception that is unique to DirecTV. If the game is coming from Sportsnet Ontario (ie: many Leafs and Sens games), then DirecTV will almost always show it in HD because they have a pre-existing contract with Sportsnet Ontario for the Blue Jays games in order to meet the MLB requirement that dual HD feeds are always available - so they don't have to pay more for that feed, and they don't have to rely on the league to provide it.

All in all, it sounds like the people we need to pressure are the NHL media department to have a simple requirement (like MLB, NBA, etc) that all games get dual HD feeds sent to the providers. If the providers choose not to show them, that's up to them, but it's likely that DirecTV would do so in most cases.

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 12:35 PM

Agreed - very good points. Last season I went on a "mission" to try and figure out the reason for #2 and #3. After a lot of CSR's transferring me to a lot of people, I managed to get ahold of someone in the DirecTV sports department to ask about 2 and 3. He spoke to his rep at the NHL who confirmed that the league does not guarantee to provide dual feeds, and generally will not provide the Canadian HD feed to providers due to the fact that the Canadian TV stations charge a higher fee for distributing.

Also, he noted one exception that is unique to DirecTV. If the game is coming from Sportsnet Ontario (ie: many Leafs and Sens games), then DirecTV will almost always show it in HD because they have a pre-existing contract with Sportsnet Ontario for the Blue Jays games in order to meet the MLB requirement that dual HD feeds are always available - so they don't have to pay more for that feed, and they don't have to rely on the league to provide it.

All in all, it sounds like the people we need to pressure are the NHL media department to have a simple requirement (like MLB, NBA, etc) that all games get dual HD feeds sent to the providers. If the providers choose not to show them, that's up to them, but it's likely that DirecTV would do so in most cases.

MLB requirement that dual HD feeds are always available then why are WGN games not in HD for MLB EI when they can remap WGN A HD for it?

And do they have Sportsnet One HD for Jays games as well?
I want CLTV / CLTV HD on direct tv.

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 12:49 PM

MLB requirement that dual HD feeds are always available then why are WGN games not in HD for MLB EI when they can remap WGN A HD for it?

And do they have Sportsnet One HD for Jays games as well?


Not sure - sorry, I didn't focus on trying to understand the MLB angle completely.

The HD feeds I've seen for Sportsnet hockey are always from SNET-Ontario.

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 01:46 PM

D* has used a few TSN HD feeds as well in the last couple of years. Not near enough, but a few.

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 05:22 PM

Some very nice comments/inputs here. But it sure would be nice if the non-DirecTV pricing topics were over in the 'other' all things NHL thread. :)

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 07:55 PM

I cancelled and am confident of getting a retention deal. I'll use the 2 week free view period to play roulette. Either way, this gives me the flexibility I was looking for without losing anything.


So it is confirmed that on DirecTV, it will be a 2 week free preview of NHL CI?
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