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#141 ONLINE   George_T

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 10:07 PM

I've had NHLCI for years, both on Comcast and now most recently on DirecTV. It's a much better offering in terms of HD games, but I'm considering looking at GameCenter this year.

Can anyone who's used GameCenter answer a basic question for me? Does it support recording or some kind of "delayed-start" mechanism? I live on the west coast and like to come home from work and watch games in the evening that started at 7PM EST/4PM PST. With CI, I just DVR these games and then watch them when I get home, but does GameCenter have something like this?

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If you pull up a game in progress, you can either choose to join the game live or start the broadcast from its beginning on NHL Gamecenter.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 08:43 AM

Satelliteracer, please understand that I get that you are exactly right, that it does cost a business a considerable amount of money to broadcast anything. No dispute in that premise whatsoever.

However, I'm just saying that given that the NHL has a much smaller fanbase than the other three major sports, and because they have had several past strikes that have harmed the game in recent years, it may be worth it to both owners and players to offer at least Gamecenter either free for this season or at a substantially reduced price to win back fans who have been alienated by the whole mess. Sometimes, you have to invest money to eventually win back money and customers.



ESPN will tell you the NHL has a smaller fan base and so will many other mainstream outlets that are sheep.

The fact of the matter is the NHL and NBA draw just about even in average attendance and then if you throw in attendance with % to capacity (NHL seating configurations are less in a building than in the NBA) then numbers skews in favor of the NHL.

On the TV side, in 2011, VAN vs BOS had 11 million U.S viewers. In 2010, PHI vs CHI drew 12 million U.S viewers. The avg NBA final for the last 15 yrs averaged 13 million viewers. the last 2 world series only drew 8 million viewers.

Then toss in this observation by Mark Cuban which I think is very valid:

http://www.thestar.c...-message-to-nhl

and these sports are peers.

Canada is so much like the US in many ways. Most of the same products and TV shows are shared.

Yes I know of a difference. McDonald's and Wendy's have Maple Leafs on their logo.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:54 AM

ESPN will tell you the NHL has a smaller fan base and so will many other mainstream outlets that are sheep.

On the TV side, in 2011, VAN vs BOS had 11 million U.S viewers. In 2010, PHI vs CHI drew 12 million U.S viewers. The avg NBA final for the last 15 yrs averaged 13 million viewers. the last 2 world series only drew 8 million viewers.


I love hockey but your comparisons are seriously slanted. You are comparing the two highest rated individual NHL games of the last three years versus a 15 year average of NBA Final Round series. Most of the early games of the Stanley Cup Finals do pretty poorly and I notice you didn't mention the 2012 Finals at all. There is a reason the NBA TV contract dwarfs the NHL contract and it's not just because ESPN loves basketball :lol:

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 01:17 PM

If you pull up a game in progress, you can either choose to join the game live or start the broadcast from its beginning on NHL Gamecenter.


Are you able to do this without seeing the score?

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 02:51 PM

I love hockey but your comparisons are seriously slanted. You are comparing the two highest rated individual NHL games of the last three years versus a 15 year average of NBA Final Round series. Most of the early games of the Stanley Cup Finals do pretty poorly and I notice you didn't mention the 2012 Finals at all. There is a reason the NBA TV contract dwarfs the NHL contract and it's not just because ESPN loves basketball :lol:




I don't disagree to an extent. It's not either sports fault, but perhaps if the NBA had more parity like the NHL and the big markets with the big players weren't always in the mix all the time in the NBA (which is why the Stanley Cup playoffs are more compelling, more upsets), I think you'd see numbers more consistently close. A couple of Memphis/Indiana finals would make my point better.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 03:10 PM

Guys, some reporters are starting to hear NHL is going to give this season on NHL CI for free. I'm going to try and find a link or tweet to get confirmation.

NHL and Teams are planning to do a lot of marketing to get people back,

TB lightning are offering season tickets for 200 which is under 20 a game for 24 games not bad.

some place will be doing food discounts, etc.

as said I'm trying to find a link let me keep digging.

One thing will be certain a lot of NHL this year will be cheaper.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 03:23 PM

I posted this in the ALL NHL topics thread reguading NHL CI link

http://www.dbstalk.c...=206707&page=12

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 04:46 PM

Guys, some reporters are starting to hear NHL is going to give this season on NHL CI for free. I'm going to try and find a link or tweet to get confirmation.

NHL and Teams are planning to do a lot of marketing to get people back,

TB lightning are offering season tickets for 200 which is under 20 a game for 24 games not bad.

some place will be doing food discounts, etc.

as said I'm trying to find a link let me keep digging.

One thing will be certain a lot of NHL this year will be cheaper.


I believe the Penguins are are giving away 3 free concessions (no beer) for each person walking thru the gate for the first 4 games. The Sabres are offering 50% off anything in the Sabre store from now until the season starts...(good time to buy that jersey for someone specail for Christmas next year)

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 07:32 PM

I believe the Penguins are are giving away 3 free concessions (no beer) for each person walking thru the gate for the first 4 games. The Sabres are offering 50% off anything in the Sabre store from now until the season starts...(good time to buy that jersey for someone specail for Christmas next year)

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Those make sense. You have to buy something in both cases (tickets and stuff from the store) plus stuff from the store is advertising if you wear it.

Free Center Ice makes no sense.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 07:47 PM

Those make sense. You have to buy something in both cases (tickets and stuff from the store) plus stuff from the store is advertising if you wear it.

Free Center Ice makes no sense.


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Posted 11 January 2013 - 08:11 PM

Except for my wallet!......:lol:


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Posted 11 January 2013 - 08:35 PM

"NHL is BACK! It will be available for sale starting on Sat., January 19."

The above is a quote from the DirecTV web site CI page. If the 19th is the first day of the shortened season and and as the quote says it just goes on sale that day, you will not be able to cancel if the price is to high, because the season starts on the day they start selling it.Why would they wait until opening day to start selling it? Still like the rumor about possible free CI.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:32 PM

I guess I better cancel now then, otherwise you'll be locked in to whatever price they decide to charge. No room for negotiation. I'm guessing the first week at least will be a free preview.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:39 PM

Going on sale on the 19th would make sense if it was free.

But it also says

Package details are being finalized so check back soon to order online.


And when I went to look at the page just now, a Live Chat CSR came on. Here is the transcript:

Mike: Hi. I’m a live DIRECTV product specialist. Would you like my help checking out? Just type your question below.
You: Why is the NHL package only going on sale on the 19th? That is the first day of the season. Why can't I order it earlier?
Mike: I am sorry but that information is not available online. However, you may get it with our customer service at 1-888-777-2454 .
You: So can I order it now? Is there a price already known for the 48-game season?
Mike: I am sorry but the price for the next season is not available online. However, you may get it with our customer service.
You: Do they have the pricing now and can I sign up for it now or do I have to wait until the 19th?
Mike: I would request you to get the pricing with our customer service as they may have the charges. However, you can also order later whenever you feel comfortable.
Mike: However, you can also order with our customer service at 1-888-777-2454 whenever you feel comfortable.
You: OK. Thanks
Mike: The package pricing would be same.
They are available 24/7 for your convenience.

I don't plan on calling until I see the schedule and match it up against my work/travel schedule.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:49 PM

That's not true at all. You won't be locked into it by the 19th.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:30 PM

Let's hope this is not true....

We don't need NBC hogging opening day!

http://www.sbnation....opening-weekend

<<<It's been long-rumored that NBC will open up with a Flyers vs. Penguins national game at 3 p.m. ET on Jan. 19. It appears, however, that NBC will return to the old practice of regionalizing -- half the country will get one game, the other will get another.

The other game? NBC's listings page confirms that they'll be airing the home opener of the Los Angeles Kings, as they raise their banner against the Chicago Blackhawks.

The likely result is that NBC will either split the country into east and west, or possibly add in a third game (New York Rangers vs. Boston perhaps?) and further split things up, ensuring a boffo rating.>>>


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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:33 PM

Let's hope this is not true....

We don't need NBC hogging opening day!

http://www.sbnation....opening-weekend

<<<It's been long-rumored that NBC will open up with a Flyers vs. Penguins national game at 3 p.m. ET on Jan. 19. It appears, however, that NBC will return to the old practice of regionalizing -- half the country will get one game, the other will get another.

The other game? NBC's listings page confirms that they'll be airing the home opener of the Los Angeles Kings, as they raise their banner against the Chicago Blackhawks.

The likely result is that NBC will either split the country into east and west, or possibly add in a third game (New York Rangers vs. Boston perhaps?) and further split things up, ensuring a boffo rating.>>>


I prefer the NBC games as they have the best audio mix.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:39 PM

I prefer the NBC games as they have the best audio mix.


That may be...

But I'd rather be able to choose between "watching" those three games...

Perhaps I'm mad, but for some reason, that trumps how any one of them might "sound".

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:39 PM

That's not true at all. You won't be locked into it by the 19th.

Why do you say that? Here is what it says on their website and has been their policy for years:

Also remember that sports subscriptions can’t be canceled, refunded, or credited (in part or in whole) after the season starts.


Do you know something different about this shortened NHL season?

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:46 PM

Let's hope this is not true....

We don't need NBC hogging opening day!


If they do, lets hope they do it the way they used to: the game that wasn't available on your local NBC game was still available on CI. [I know, I'm dreaming.]




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